Re: [Wiki-research-l] Survey of Welsh Wicipedia's readership

[Kerry Raymond]

Now this question may reveal my ignorance about the Welsh language and/or the 
Welsh Wikipedia and/or my own monolingualism (I don't read any other language 
well enough to attempt to read it in a non-English Wikiepdia), but English 
Wikipedia says that "Most Welsh-speaking people in Wales also speak English" 
and Welsh Wikipedia has 91K articles to English Wikipedia's 5M+.

Given the above, I am somewhat curious why the survey did not ask about the 
ability to speak English and the extent of usage of English Wikipedia and what 
factors made them choose to read one or the other. Given that most of the 
respondents are probably bi-lingual (to some degree) as readers, it would seem 
that they are probably reading English Wikipedia to some extent given its far 
wider coverage. So when and why do they choose to read Welsh Wikipedia? My 
guess is that it may be for reasons related to the Welsh language itself:

* as first preference because their Welsh reading is better than their English 
reading (preferable)
* as first preference because despite being equally or more fluent in English 
because they want to support the Welsh language (patriotism)
* as first preference because despite being equally or more fluent in English 
they want to maintain or improve their Welsh language skills by reading in that 
language (learning)

or because of the content:

* because the topic of interest is only on Welsh Wikipedia (necessity)
* because the topic of interest is on both Welsh and English Wikipedia and so 
reading both is likely to provide more information than reading just one 
(comprehensive)
* as a second preference because the topic was not adequately covered on 
English Wikipedia and it is hoped it is better covered in Welsh Wikipedia 
(unsatisfied)

Are there other reasons?

Off-hand, does anyone have a sense of the coverage of Welsh Wikipedia? To what 
extent is it providing articles on topics not on English Wikipedia or much 
better covered than on English Wikipedia, vs providing articles on similar 
topics to English Wikipedia (possibly shorter) but in Welsh? That is, what do 
the goals of the writers of Welsh Wikipedia appear to be? Does it lean towards 
providing specific Welsh content or providing generic content in Welsh? 

I realise you can ask the same questions about any other language Wikipedia vs 
English Wikipedia, but for many other languages, there will be many people who 
speak the other language far more fluently than English (or may not speak 
English at all). But this seems to be less likely to be the case for 
Welsh-vs-English.

Kerry

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Hello,

Earlier this year Wikimedia UK conducted a survey of Welch Wicipedia's readers. 
We wanted to learn more about their demographics and why they chose to read c. 
1001 people filled in the survey and the results are available on meta-wiki in 
English 
and Welsh

.

Richard Nevell
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[Wiki-research-l] Fwd: [Design] Design in the Era of the Algorithm

[Pine W]

Perhaps of interest.

Pine


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From: Chris Koerner 
Date: Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 8:31 AM
Subject: [Design] Design in the Era of the Algorithm
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Josh Clark on design principles for addressing flaws in machine learning.
(via waxy.org)\

"The answer machines have an overconfidence problem. It’s not only a
data-science problem that the algorithm returns bad conclusions. It’s a
problem of presentation: the interface suggests that there’s one true
answer, offering it up with a confidence that is unjustified.

So this is a design problem, too. The presentation fails to set appropriate
expectations or context, and instead presents a bad answer with
matter-of-fact assurance. As we learn to present machine-originated
content, we face a very hard question: how might we add some productive
humility to these interfaces to temper their overconfidence?

I have ideas."

https://bigmedium.com/speaking/design-in-the-era-of-the-algorithm.html

Yours,
Chris Koerner
Community Liaison - Discovery
Wikimedia Foundation

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[Wiki-research-l] Survey of Welsh Wicipedia's readership

[Richard Nevell]

Hello,

Earlier this year Wikimedia UK conducted a survey of Welch Wicipedia's
readers. We wanted to learn more about their demographics and why they
chose to read Welsh Wicipedia. 1001 people filled in the survey and the
results are available on meta-wiki in English

and Welsh

.

Richard Nevell
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Richard Nevell
Project Coordinator
Wikimedia UK - sign up to our newsletter 
+44 (0) 20 7065 0921 <020%207065%200921>

Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
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Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
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