Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question on article creation policy

[WereSpielChequers]

Hi Haifeng,

IP editors were able to create new articles until December 2005.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Wikipedia

There was a sea change on the pedia in 2007, and the number of active
editors reached its highest peak then - even the 2015/2016 rally didn't get
back to that level. I don't think that we have consensus as to what changed
in 2007 and why things changed in 2007, I suspect it was multifaceted, but
one factor will turnout to be the switch from the previous SOFIXIT culture
to the current SOTEMPLATEITFORHYPOTHETICALOTHERSTOFIX culture.

Jonathan



On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 at 16:26, Haifeng Zhang  wrote:

> Thanks a lot for providing all these information!
>
> Was there a major change in article creation policy in early 2007?
>
> Can anonymous users create new pages before then?
>
>
> Best,
>
> Haifeng Zhang
> 
> From: Wiki-research-l  on
> behalf of Su-Laine Brodsky 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 2:44:24 AM
> To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities
> Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question on article creation policy
>
> Hi Haifeng,
>
> Re :  A more general question is: where to find information about policy
> changes, e.g., article creation, in Wikipedia?
>
> The Wikipedia Signpost usually covers major policy changes like this one (
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost)
>
> As Kerry pointed out though, more subtle policy changes happen without
> much publicity. If changes are contentious enough, they might appear in an
> RfC or The Village Pump, so those are some other areas to look.
>
> Cheers,
> Su-Laine
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 9, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Haifeng Zhang 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear folks,
> >
> > I'm checking the Article Creation page (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_creation), and it says:
> >
> >
> > The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is restricted<
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ACPERM> to autoconfirmed users,
> though non-confirmed users and non-registered users can submit a proposed
> article through the Articles for Creation<
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation> process,
> where it will be reviewed and considered for publication.
> >
> >
> > Anyone knows when the restriction (e.g., registered and auto-confirmed)
> become effective? I tracked the past revisions of the page but found no
> clue. A more general question is: where to find information about policy
> changes, e.g., article creation, in Wikipedia?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Haifeng
> >
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question on article creation policy

[Su-Laine Brodsky]

Hi Haifeng,

The history of the following page might indicate when policies changed around 
the access levels required to create articles: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_access_levels . 


Cheers,
Su-Laine


> On Aug 11, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Haifeng Zhang  wrote:
> 
> Thanks a lot for providing all these information!
> 
> Was there a major change in article creation policy in early 2007?
> 
> Can anonymous users create new pages before then?
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Haifeng Zhang
> 
> From: Wiki-research-l  on behalf 
> of Su-Laine Brodsky 
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 2:44:24 AM
> To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities
> Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question on article creation policy
> 
> Hi Haifeng,
> 
> Re :  A more general question is: where to find information about policy 
> changes, e.g., article creation, in Wikipedia?
> 
> The Wikipedia Signpost usually covers major policy changes like this one 
> (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost)
> 
> As Kerry pointed out though, more subtle policy changes happen without much 
> publicity. If changes are contentious enough, they might appear in an RfC or 
> The Village Pump, so those are some other areas to look.
> 
> Cheers,
> Su-Laine
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Haifeng Zhang  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear folks,
>> 
>> I'm checking the Article Creation page 
>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_creation), and it says:
>> 
>> 
>> The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is 
>> restricted<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ACPERM> to autoconfirmed 
>> users, though non-confirmed users and non-registered users can submit a 
>> proposed article through the Articles for 
>> Creation<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation> 
>> process, where it will be reviewed and considered for publication.
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone knows when the restriction (e.g., registered and auto-confirmed) 
>> become effective? I tracked the past revisions of the page but found no 
>> clue. A more general question is: where to find information about policy 
>> changes, e.g., article creation, in Wikipedia?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Haifeng
>> 
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question on article creation policy

[Su-Laine Brodsky]

Hi Haifeng,

Re :  A more general question is: where to find information about policy 
changes, e.g., article creation, in Wikipedia?

The Wikipedia Signpost usually covers major policy changes like this one 
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost)

As Kerry pointed out though, more subtle policy changes happen without much 
publicity. If changes are contentious enough, they might appear in an RfC or 
The Village Pump, so those are some other areas to look.

Cheers,
Su-Laine

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Haifeng Zhang  wrote:
> 
> Dear folks,
> 
> I'm checking the Article Creation page 
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_creation), and it says:
> 
> 
> The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is 
> restricted to autoconfirmed 
> users, though non-confirmed users and non-registered users can submit a 
> proposed article through the Articles for 
> Creation 
> process, where it will be reviewed and considered for publication.
> 
> 
> Anyone knows when the restriction (e.g., registered and auto-confirmed) 
> become effective? I tracked the past revisions of the page but found no clue. 
> A more general question is: where to find information about policy changes, 
> e.g., article creation, in Wikipedia?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Haifeng
> 
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question on article creation policy

[Morten Wang]

In addition to Aaron's helpful pointers, here are the timestamps (all in
UTC) I've found for when ACTRIAL started and ended, and when the permanent
restriction went into place:

ACTRIAL start: 2017-09-14 22:30:00 or thereabouts, ref the first post by
Kaldari in this archived thread from the ACTRIAL talk page

.
ACTRIAL end: 2018-03-14 17:30:00 or thereabouts, based on the timestamp of
the first article created by a non-autoconfirmed user after ACTRIAL ended.
ACPERM start: 2018-04-27 00:00:00 or thereabouts, based on the timestamp in
T192455#4162881 .

You can also see the dates for these in this dashboard showing page
creations by non-autoconfirmed users on enwiki

.


Cheers,
Morten
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question on article creation policy

[Aaron Halfaker]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed_article_creation_trial

See also
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Autoconfirmed_article_creation_trial
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed_article_creation_trial/Post-trial_Research_Report

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 1:48 PM Haifeng Zhang 
wrote:

> Dear folks,
>
> I'm checking the Article Creation page (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_creation), and it says:
>
>
> The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is restricted<
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ACPERM> to autoconfirmed users,
> though non-confirmed users and non-registered users can submit a proposed
> article through the Articles for Creation<
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation> process,
> where it will be reviewed and considered for publication.
>
>
> Anyone knows when the restriction (e.g., registered and auto-confirmed)
> become effective? I tracked the past revisions of the page but found no
> clue. A more general question is: where to find information about policy
> changes, e.g., article creation, in Wikipedia?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Haifeng
>
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[Wiki-research-l] Question on article creation policy

[Haifeng Zhang]

Dear folks,

I'm checking the Article Creation page 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_creation), and it says:


The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is 
restricted to autoconfirmed 
users, though non-confirmed users and non-registered users can submit a 
proposed article through the Articles for 
Creation 
process, where it will be reviewed and considered for publication.


Anyone knows when the restriction (e.g., registered and auto-confirmed) become 
effective? I tracked the past revisions of the page but found no clue. A more 
general question is: where to find information about policy changes, e.g., 
article creation, in Wikipedia?


Thanks,

Haifeng

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