Re: [Wiki-research-l] WMF Open Access Policy and Independent Researchers

[Leila Zia]

Since we haven't sent a response on the thread for now, I'll share what I
know and hopefully we can continue the discussion.

Here are few questions I could gather from the discussions on this thread:

* Do we have a definition for pre-print?
We have a working definition but this is not documented anywhere mostly
because the OA policy encourages the publication of post-print, and not
pre-print: Section D of the FAQ says: "We encourage all authors to deposit
post-print manuscripts when possible." and that if the author(s) are going
with pre-print (think about it as anything other than post-print), they
should apply for the waiver. We have made a note to define and add it,
probably to the FAQ
.

* Do the WMF grants cover the OA fees?
This question is best answered by Kacie.
My understanding as a researcher working with her is the following:
Starting some time in winter 2016, when we consider funding research
through grants, we want to ensure that we have funding to support the
publication of research that is subject to the OA policy before providing
funding. I'm not sure what the situation is for grants approved before this
rough time.

* Can one apply for WMF grants to cover OA fees for a research that was not
funded by WMF but is about Wikimedia projects?
Again, Kacie will be the person who can give the definitive response here.
When we discussed this last few months ago, the conclusion was that we
don't want to enter this area for now, given that there is at least one
constraint and that is the budget for grants, and given this constraint, we
want to make sure we work with those who we give grants to, to make sure
their work is licensed in a way compatible with the OA policy.

I hope this helps.

Best,
Leila


Leila Zia
Research Scientist
Wikimedia Foundation

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Leila Zia  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just a note to re-acknowledge that we have received the questions on this
> thread and you should expect a response from us by Friday, July 8.
>
> Max, if you are working against a deadline that cannot wait until July 8,
> please ping me off-list and I'm happy to chat with you more about it.
>
> Best,
> Leila
>
> --
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> Research Scientist
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Leila Zia  wrote:
>
>> ​Hi Daniel,​
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Daniel Mietchen <
>> daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> this situation was actually discussed in detail when the policy was
>>> drafted, and it is reflected in two parts of the policy:
>>> - Under "C. Published Materials. Researchers will publish any output
>>> in an Open Access outlet under a Free License.", it states
>>> "If a work based on the project is accepted for publication in a peer
>>> reviewed outlet that does not make its articles available online, free
>>> of charge, and under free licenses, an electronic copy of the author’s
>>> accepted manuscript will be submitted to a public and permanently
>>> archived repository by the official date of publication, without any
>>> embargo period, and released under a Free License." ==> This basically
>>> means you can publish in closed-access journals, as long as you make a
>>> pre- or postprint openly available.
>>>
>>
>> ​To clarify: Under the OA policy you are expected to publish the
>> post-print version, and if you cannot, you should ask for a limited waiver.
>> This is explained in Section D, Question 1 in the FAQ
>> .
>>
>> ​Best,
>> ​Leila​
>>
>> Cheers,
>>> d.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Jonathan Morgan 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Thanks, Sydney and Pine.
>>> >
>>> > This is timely, as Resources is currently re-vamping their
>>> instructions for
>>> > grant proposals (including research-focused grants). So it's a good
>>> time to
>>> > hammer out our policy and process here.
>>> >
>>> > Max: if you're willing to ping me off-list and relate some of the
>>> details of
>>> > your conversation, that will help me follow up on the particular issue
>>> > you're facing right now.
>>> >
>>> > I want this to be clear and easy for grantees going forward—if WMF is
>>> > funding research, we should be prepared to support the dissemination
>>> of that
>>> > research in a way that aligns with our values. In the future, I would
>>> like
>>> > to see grantees budget anticipated OA fees into their requests, and a
>>> > process for vetting this during the proposal review period.
>>> >
>>> > I know there has been some conversation between Research and Resources
>>> > around this issue in the past, but I don't know if there were decisions
>>> > made... more likely I'll need to start it back up again. We're all
>>> still
>>> > working out the kinks in the OA policy (even staff researchers are
>>> trying to
>>> > understand the ramifications for our 

Re: [Wiki-research-l] WMF Open Access Policy and Independent Researchers

[Jonathan Morgan]

Hi Daniel,

Thank you for the information. There are still aspects of implementation
that are unclear to me, and perhaps for others as well. Please see below.

Best,
Jonathan

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Daniel Mietchen <
daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> this situation was actually discussed in detail when the policy was
> drafted, and it is reflected in two parts of the policy:
> - Under "C. Published Materials. Researchers will publish any output
> in an Open Access outlet under a Free License.", it states
> "If a work based on the project is accepted for publication in a peer
> reviewed outlet that does not make its articles available online, free
> of charge, and under free licenses, an electronic copy of the author’s
> accepted manuscript will be submitted to a public and permanently
> archived repository by the official date of publication, without any
> embargo period, and released under a Free License." ==> This basically
> means you can publish in closed-access journals, as long as you make a
> pre- or postprint openly available.


Any pointers on what consistutes a pre-print? Perhaps Aaron Halfaker can
speak to this. I know he went through this dance with SAGE for the Rise and
Decline paper.




> - Under "2. Limited waiver", it states
> "Specific waivers from the expectations above may be applied in
> limited circumstances on a case-by-case basis. Researchers wanting a
> waiver are required to submit to the Wikimedia Foundation, in writing,
> a detailed explanation of why they require the waiver. The Wikimedia
> Foundation will publicly post a summary of the request and its
> response. "
>

Who at WMF should these waivers be submitted to? Who reviews and responds?
What are the consequences if the exemption is not granted?



> This is also covered in the FAQ, part D, along with limited funding
> options (cf.
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy/FAQ ).
>
> Cheers,
> d.
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Jonathan Morgan 
> wrote:
> > Thanks, Sydney and Pine.
> >
> > This is timely, as Resources is currently re-vamping their instructions
> for
> > grant proposals (including research-focused grants). So it's a good time
> to
> > hammer out our policy and process here.
> >
> > Max: if you're willing to ping me off-list and relate some of the
> details of
> > your conversation, that will help me follow up on the particular issue
> > you're facing right now.
> >
> > I want this to be clear and easy for grantees going forward—if WMF is
> > funding research, we should be prepared to support the dissemination of
> that
> > research in a way that aligns with our values. In the future, I would
> like
> > to see grantees budget anticipated OA fees into their requests, and a
> > process for vetting this during the proposal review period.
> >
> > I know there has been some conversation between Research and Resources
> > around this issue in the past, but I don't know if there were decisions
> > made... more likely I'll need to start it back up again. We're all still
> > working out the kinks in the OA policy (even staff researchers are
> trying to
> > understand the ramifications for our work).
> >
> > I'll make sure to notify this list when I learn more.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Sydney Poore 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Max,
> >>
> >> This issue was discussed in the context of a paper about Wikipedia
> working
> >> with medical students in the classroom.
> >>
> >> See the talk page and endorsements for the discussion that led to the
> >> grant being approved. .
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/bluerasberry/open_access_release_funding_for_paper_on_Wikipedia_in_classroom
> >>
> >> Sydney
> >>
> >> Sydney Poore
> >> User:FloNight
> >> Wiki Project Med Foundation
> >> WikiWomen's User Group
> >> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/sydney.e.poore
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Maximilian Klein 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>> As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all work
> >>> that they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of this
> policy,
> >>> that I recently ran into, is that it requires researchers funded by
> grants
> >>> to publish OA -- but without providing any funding to do so. That is, I
> >>> recently completed an Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose
> scope
> >>> was explicitly to write a paper about the work[2], and when I wrote to
> WMF
> >>> to acquire funds for OA publishing, they confirmed that the paper was
> under
> >>> the OA mandate but indicated that funds were not available to pay for
> OA
> >>> publishing.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy?  What was your
> experience?
> >>>
> >>> [1] 

Re: [Wiki-research-l] WMF Open Access Policy and Independent Researchers

[Daniel Mietchen]

Dear all,

this situation was actually discussed in detail when the policy was
drafted, and it is reflected in two parts of the policy:
- Under "C. Published Materials. Researchers will publish any output
in an Open Access outlet under a Free License.", it states
"If a work based on the project is accepted for publication in a peer
reviewed outlet that does not make its articles available online, free
of charge, and under free licenses, an electronic copy of the author’s
accepted manuscript will be submitted to a public and permanently
archived repository by the official date of publication, without any
embargo period, and released under a Free License." ==> This basically
means you can publish in closed-access journals, as long as you make a
pre- or postprint openly available.
- Under "2. Limited waiver", it states
"Specific waivers from the expectations above may be applied in
limited circumstances on a case-by-case basis. Researchers wanting a
waiver are required to submit to the Wikimedia Foundation, in writing,
a detailed explanation of why they require the waiver. The Wikimedia
Foundation will publicly post a summary of the request and its
response. "

This is also covered in the FAQ, part D, along with limited funding options (cf.
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy/FAQ ).

Cheers,
d.

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Jonathan Morgan  wrote:
> Thanks, Sydney and Pine.
>
> This is timely, as Resources is currently re-vamping their instructions for
> grant proposals (including research-focused grants). So it's a good time to
> hammer out our policy and process here.
>
> Max: if you're willing to ping me off-list and relate some of the details of
> your conversation, that will help me follow up on the particular issue
> you're facing right now.
>
> I want this to be clear and easy for grantees going forward—if WMF is
> funding research, we should be prepared to support the dissemination of that
> research in a way that aligns with our values. In the future, I would like
> to see grantees budget anticipated OA fees into their requests, and a
> process for vetting this during the proposal review period.
>
> I know there has been some conversation between Research and Resources
> around this issue in the past, but I don't know if there were decisions
> made... more likely I'll need to start it back up again. We're all still
> working out the kinks in the OA policy (even staff researchers are trying to
> understand the ramifications for our work).
>
> I'll make sure to notify this list when I learn more.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Sydney Poore 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Max,
>>
>> This issue was discussed in the context of a paper about Wikipedia working
>> with medical students in the classroom.
>>
>> See the talk page and endorsements for the discussion that led to the
>> grant being approved. .
>>
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/bluerasberry/open_access_release_funding_for_paper_on_Wikipedia_in_classroom
>>
>> Sydney
>>
>> Sydney Poore
>> User:FloNight
>> Wiki Project Med Foundation
>> WikiWomen's User Group
>> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/sydney.e.poore
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Maximilian Klein 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all work
>>> that they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of this policy,
>>> that I recently ran into, is that it requires researchers funded by grants
>>> to publish OA -- but without providing any funding to do so. That is, I
>>> recently completed an Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose scope
>>> was explicitly to write a paper about the work[2], and when I wrote to WMF
>>> to acquire funds for OA publishing, they confirmed that the paper was under
>>> the OA mandate but indicated that funds were not available to pay for OA
>>> publishing.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy?  What was your experience?
>>>
>>> [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy
>>> [2]
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/WIGI:_Wikipedia_Gender_Index#Activities
>>>
>>> Make a great day,
>>> Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
>>>
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] WMF Open Access Policy and Independent Researchers

[Pine W]

Thanks Jonathan.

Max, just a question. Where were you told that "the paper was under the OA
mandate but indicated that funds were not available to pay for OA
publishing."? This sounds like something that may need some additional
thought from Grantmaking. I looked for a discussion on the WGI talk page
but that discussion isn't there. I'm too stretched with other commitments
to escalate this issue myself, but if the combination of issues is as
described in this email thread then this issue might be good for
Grantmaking to consider in light of the bigger picture.

Thanks,

Pine

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Maximilian Klein  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all work
> that they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of this policy,
> that I recently ran into, is that it requires researchers funded by grants
> to publish OA -- but without providing any funding to do so. That is, I
> recently completed an Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose
> scope was explicitly to write a paper about the work[2], and when I wrote
> to WMF to acquire funds for OA publishing, they confirmed that the paper
> was under the OA mandate but indicated that funds were not available to pay
> for OA publishing.
>
> Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy?  What was your experience?
>
> [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy
> [2]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/WIGI:_Wikipedia_Gender_Index#Activities
>
> Make a great day,
> Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] WMF Open Access Policy and Independent Researchers

[James Salsman]

Max, this advise is very good:

> On 6/29/2016 11:01, Stuart A. Yeates wrote:
>
> There are many open access journals which do not charge fees or any
> description.  See http://www.opendoar.org/ or talk to a friendly
> librarian to find a journal that meets your needs.

Please see also Table 5 on p. 1320 (PDF p. 6) in
http://octavia.zoology.washington.edu/publications/WestEtAl14.pdf

That suggests the Journal of Machine Learning Research may be a good
high-impact, zero-fee choice, if appropriate.

There are alternatives by the same authors at
http://www.eigenfactor.org/openaccess/oa.php?catid=50=0
in particular, College and Research Libraries and the Journal of the
Medical Library Association, if appropriate.

http://www.eigenfactor.org/openaccess/oa.php?catid=29=0
has another bunch, such as the Journal of Educational Research.

http://www.eigenfactor.org/openaccess/oa.php?catid=129=0
suggests Computational Linguistics.

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] WMF Open Access Policy and Independent Researchers

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

Dariusz Jemielniak писал 2016-06-29 15:58:

what Piotr wrote. If you're a scholar at a research-driven
institution, the chances are you are required to publish in SSCI (JCR)
journals. The typical OA fees for the journals listed there are
1,000-2,000 USD.

dj


Absolutely, we have the same (my field is physics). Some of our top 
journals are OA, the fees start from Eur 1000, and it is our 
responsibility to find funding.


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] WMF Open Access Policy and Independent Researchers

[Dariusz Jemielniak]

what Piotr wrote. If you're a scholar at a research-driven institution, the
chances are you are required to publish in SSCI (JCR) journals. The typical
OA fees for the journals listed there are 1,000-2,000 USD.

dj

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:38 AM, Piotr Konieczny  wrote:

> The problem is that most of those are not indexed in top tier indexes. For
> example, my career requires me to publish in SSCI index, and in my field,
> sociology, do you know how many out of ~120 journals indexed in SSCI are
> green open access? Zero.
>
> WMF grants exist to make research easier, but they also should take into
> consideration the realities of academic publishing. Personally, I hate to
> think that my research goes to support parasites like Elsevier and their
> ilk, but if I publish in the green open access journals I respect, well, my
> evaluation from the university bureaucrats will not be very respectful to
> me. So publishing my wiki research in such venues is not an option.
>
> Of course, you may say that in such case I should not ask for WMF grants
> at all, but I do not think that we should penalize researchers who are in
> fields like sociology - it is not their fault that the OA movement hasn't
> made much inroads in their field (well, it is, to some degree, but that's
> going OT). Bottom line is that WMF grants should support research and its
> dissemination in what is seen as quality journals and  related outlets, too.
>
> --
>
> Piotr Konieczny, 
> PhDhttp://hanyang.academia.edu/PiotrKoniecznyhttp://scholar.google.com/citations?user=gdV8_AEJhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus
>
> On 6/29/2016 11:01, Stuart A. Yeates wrote:
>
> There are many open access journals which do not charge fees or any
> description.  See http://www.opendoar.org/ or talk to a friendly
> librarian to find a journal that meets your needs.
>
> cheers
> stuart
>
> --
> ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Maximilian Klein < 
> isa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all work
>> that they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of this policy,
>> that I recently ran into, is that it requires researchers funded by grants
>> to publish OA -- but without providing any funding to do so. That is, I
>> recently completed an Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose
>> scope was explicitly to write a paper about the work[2], and when I wrote
>> to WMF to acquire funds for OA publishing, they confirmed that the paper
>> was under the OA mandate but indicated that funds were not available to pay
>> for OA publishing.
>>
>> Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy?  What was your experience?
>>
>> [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy
>> [2]
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/WIGI:_Wikipedia_Gender_Index#Activities
>>
>> Make a great day,
>> Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
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Recenzje
Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
Pacific Standard:
http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] WMF Open Access Policy and Independent Researchers

[Ward Cunningham]

As a casual reader of this list would it be foolish of me to suggest that you 
seek funding from a variety of sources and publish the results in a variety of 
journals? Your methodological skills and depth of personal insight would carry 
over between academic reality and the open ideal, no?

Best regards -- Ward

On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Piotr Konieczny  wrote:

> The problem is that most of those are not indexed in top tier indexes. For 
> example, my career requires me to publish in SSCI index, and in my field, 
> sociology, do you know how many out of ~120 journals indexed in SSCI are 
> green open access? Zero. 
> WMF grants exist to make research easier, but they also should take into 
> consideration the realities of academic publishing. Personally, I hate to 
> think that my research goes to support parasites like Elsevier and their ilk, 
> but if I publish in the green open access journals I respect, well, my 
> evaluation from the university bureaucrats will not be very respectful to me. 
> So publishing my wiki research in such venues is not an option.
> 
> Of course, you may say that in such case I should not ask for WMF grants at 
> all, but I do not think that we should penalize researchers who are in fields 
> like sociology - it is not their fault that the OA movement hasn't made much 
> inroads in their field (well, it is, to some degree, but that's going OT). 
> Bottom line is that WMF grants should support research and its dissemination 
> in what is seen as quality journals and  related outlets, too.
> --
> 
> Piotr Konieczny, PhD
> 
> http://hanyang.academia.edu/PiotrKonieczny
> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=gdV8_AEJ
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus
> On 6/29/2016 11:01, Stuart A. Yeates wrote:
>> There are many open access journals which do not charge fees or any 
>> description.  See http://www.opendoar.org/ or talk to a friendly librarian 
>> to find a journal that meets your needs. 
>> 
>> cheers
>> stuart
>> 
>> --
>> ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Maximilian Klein  wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all work that 
>> they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of this policy, that I 
>> recently ran into, is that it requires researchers funded by grants to 
>> publish OA -- but without providing any funding to do so. That is, I 
>> recently completed an Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose scope 
>> was explicitly to write a paper about the work[2], and when I wrote to WMF 
>> to acquire funds for OA publishing, they confirmed that the paper was under 
>> the OA mandate but indicated that funds were not available to pay for OA 
>> publishing.
>> 
>> Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy?  What was your experience?
>> 
>> [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy
>> [2] 
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/WIGI:_Wikipedia_Gender_Index#Activities
>> 
>> Make a great day,
>> Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/ 
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[Piotr Konieczny]

The problem is that most of those are not indexed in top tier indexes. 
For example, my career requires me to publish in SSCI index, and in my 
field, sociology, do you know how many out of ~120 journals indexed in 
SSCI are green open access? Zero.


WMF grants exist to make research easier, but they also should take into 
consideration the realities of academic publishing. Personally, I hate 
to think that my research goes to support parasites like Elsevier and 
their ilk, but if I publish in the green open access journals I respect, 
well, my evaluation from the university bureaucrats will not be very 
respectful to me. So publishing my wiki research in such venues is not 
an option.


Of course, you may say that in such case I should not ask for WMF grants 
at all, but I do not think that we should penalize researchers who are 
in fields like sociology - it is not their fault that the OA movement 
hasn't made much inroads in their field (well, it is, to some degree, 
but that's going OT). Bottom line is that WMF grants should support 
research and its dissemination in what is seen as quality journals and  
related outlets, too.


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http://hanyang.academia.edu/PiotrKonieczny
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=gdV8_AEJ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus

On 6/29/2016 11:01, Stuart A. Yeates wrote:
There are many open access journals which do not charge fees or any 
description.  See http://www.opendoar.org/ or talk to a friendly 
librarian to find a journal that meets your needs.


cheers
stuart

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On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Maximilian Klein > wrote:


Hello All,

As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all
work that they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of
this policy, that I recently ran into, is that it requires
researchers funded by grants to publish OA -- but without
providing any funding to do so. That is, I recently completed an
Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose scope was
explicitly to write a paper about the work[2], and when I wrote to
WMF to acquire funds for OA publishing, they confirmed that the
paper was under the OA mandate but indicated that funds were not
available to pay for OA publishing.

Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy?  What was your
experience?

[1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy
[2]

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/WIGI:_Wikipedia_Gender_Index#Activities

Make a great day,
Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] WMF Open Access Policy and Independent Researchers

[Stuart A. Yeates]

There are many open access journals which do not charge fees or any
description.  See http://www.opendoar.org/ or talk to a friendly librarian
to find a journal that meets your needs.

cheers
stuart

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On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Maximilian Klein  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all work
> that they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of this policy,
> that I recently ran into, is that it requires researchers funded by grants
> to publish OA -- but without providing any funding to do so. That is, I
> recently completed an Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose
> scope was explicitly to write a paper about the work[2], and when I wrote
> to WMF to acquire funds for OA publishing, they confirmed that the paper
> was under the OA mandate but indicated that funds were not available to pay
> for OA publishing.
>
> Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy?  What was your experience?
>
> [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy
> [2]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/WIGI:_Wikipedia_Gender_Index#Activities
>
> Make a great day,
> Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
>
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[Wiki-research-l] WMF Open Access Policy and Independent Researchers

[Maximilian Klein]

Hello All,

As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all work that
they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of this policy, that
I recently ran into, is that it requires researchers funded by grants to
publish OA -- but without providing any funding to do so. That is, I
recently completed an Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose
scope was explicitly to write a paper about the work[2], and when I wrote
to WMF to acquire funds for OA publishing, they confirmed that the paper
was under the OA mandate but indicated that funds were not available to pay
for OA publishing.

Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy?  What was your experience?

[1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/WIGI:_Wikipedia_Gender_Index#Activities

Make a great day,
Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
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