[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #37 from Krinkle 2011-07-04 21:41:47 UTC --- (In reply to comment #36) > this would still cause issues if in future a interwiki matching COM was > created, still recommending wontfix as per the previous disuccions. I'm not sure how that makes any difference. Currently there are over 720 pages on commonswiki in the Main namespace starting with "COM:". If and when such an interwiki would be created the Commons will have to fix these some how. That is a fact no matter what. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 Bawolff changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bawolff...@gmail.com --- Comment #38 from Bawolff 2011-07-04 21:52:21 UTC --- (In reply to comment #36) > this would still cause issues if in future a interwiki matching COM was > created, still recommending wontfix as per the previous disuccions. Can't we cross that bridge when we come to it? The com language is next to dead (200 speakers total, most elderly), and almost no one uses the whole interlanguage link feature on commons anyways. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #39 from AnonMoos 2011-07-06 03:33:54 UTC --- Bawolff wrote: > almost no one uses the whole interlanguage link feature on commons anyways. That's not really true -- many gallery and category pages have interwikis. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 Priyanka Dhanda changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Comment #40 from Priyanka Dhanda 2011-07-06 17:41:14 UTC --- mhershberger asked me to go ahead with COM as the alias. Done. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #41 from Priyanka Dhanda 2011-07-06 18:03:45 UTC --- Created attachment 8751 --> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=8751 Result of namespaceDupesWT.php Added the output of namespaceDupesWT.php There were a few pages that it could not resolve automatically that are in the output. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #42 from Bawolff 2011-07-06 18:08:30 UTC --- (In reply to comment #41) > Created attachment 8751 [details] > Result of namespaceDupesWT.php > > Added the output of namespaceDupesWT.php > There were a few pages that it could not resolve automatically that are in the > output. Typically the script is run with the option --suffix BROKEN so that local admins can fix the left over pages easily (otherwise one needs to do really technical stuff with the api, or use firebug to modify form elements on special:movepage to rename such pages) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #43 from Priyanka Dhanda 2011-07-06 22:21:04 UTC --- Created attachment 8753 --> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=8753 Result of cleanupTitles.php on commonswiki I ran cleanupTitles instead. Hope that works. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #32 from Rehman 2011-03-13 05:38:05 UTC --- Considering all WMF policies, is there any chance COM: could be made a namespace alias within Commons? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #33 from Krinkle 2011-03-16 23:46:28 UTC --- This request is only for a local alias. If and when sucha com: language prefix would be used on our projects, we (Commons community) will have to fix our links. That is no different from the current situation since there already are links to COM: and pages existant with those names. Please add the wgNamespaceAliases for commonswiki from 'COM' to NS_PROJECT and run the link fixer to append /BROKEN to any dupes. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 Killiondude changed: What|Removed |Added CC||killiondud...@gmail.com --- Comment #34 from Killiondude 2011-06-25 03:03:39 UTC --- Poke? As noted by Krinkle, this request is just a local alias, not an interwiki prefix. Please update the appropriate files. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 Mark A. Hershberger changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |pdha...@wikimedia.org |org | --- Comment #35 from Mark A. Hershberger 2011-06-26 20:16:36 UTC --- Assigning to pdhanda to bump this up on her scale of importance. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 p858snake changed: What|Removed |Added Component|General/Unknown |Site requests --- Comment #36 from p858snake 2011-06-27 00:45:56 UTC --- this would still cause issues if in future a interwiki matching COM was created, still recommending wontfix as per the previous disuccions. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 MZMcBride changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Create new prefix COM: for |Create project namespace |Commons |alias "COM" for Commons -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600
--- Comment #24 from MZMcBride 2010-11-07 02:58:56 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #23)
> (In reply to comment #22)
> > Since when is this bug about interproject links ?
> > This is about a namespace alias within Commons as far as I know.
>
> Ah, that was me conflating issues. My bad.
I changed the bug summary to (hopefully) be clearer ("Create new prefix COM:
for Commons" --> "Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons").
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[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
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--- Comment #25 from Krinkle 2010-11-07 03:26:52 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #24)
> I changed the bug summary to (hopefully) be clearer ("Create new prefix COM:
> for Commons" --> "Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons").
Okay :) - comment 0 and comment 4 emphasized this though, but the summary was
fairly vague about it.
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[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #26 from Rehman 2010-12-08 12:20:54 UTC --- Just trying to keep things from going stale... Now as the proposal is about the COM: prefix for use only within Commons, why can't it just be implemented sooner? Are there any clear issues blocking this change from happening? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #27 from AnonMoos 2010-12-10 07:58:10 UTC --- (In reply to comment #26) > Now as the proposal is about the COM: prefix for use only within Commons, > Are there any clear issues blocking this change from happening? Unless the software has changed recently, it seems that namespaces and interwikis aren't so separate that they can't conflict, and 3-letter combinations are generally reserved for ISO 639-2 language codes. However, "CM:" could be approved if there was some push behind it (i.e. if it was somewhat agreed to at Commons Village Pump, etc.) -- see my comment of January 6. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #28 from Rehman 2011-01-23 02:42:03 UTC --- (In reply to comment #27) > Unless the software has changed recently, it seems that namespaces and > interwikis aren't so separate that they can't conflict, and 3-letter > combinations are generally reserved for ISO 639-2 language codes. However, > "CM:" could be approved if there was some push behind it (i.e. if it was > somewhat agreed to at Commons Village Pump, etc.) -- see my comment of January > 6. I don't understand. We could simply make it function this way: * If you type COM in Commons: it would simply function as a project-space shortcut * If you type COM outside Commons: it would redirect to Comanche Wiki. Or am I missing something here? I don't think creating anything other than COM would be useful; because nobody knows, or is used to this shortcut, and all the current existing shortcuts is COM... I could start a VP discussion to see what is preferred, if anyone finds that useful... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #29 from Krinkle 2011-01-23 03:27:19 UTC --- (In reply to comment #28) > (In reply to comment #27) > > Unless the software has changed recently, it seems that namespaces and > > interwikis aren't so separate that they can't conflict, and 3-letter > > combinations are generally reserved for ISO 639-2 language codes. However, > > "CM:" could be approved if there was some push behind it (i.e. if it was > > somewhat agreed to at Commons Village Pump, etc.) -- see my comment of > > January > > 6. > > I don't understand. We could simply make it function this way: > * If you type COM in Commons: it would simply function as a project-space > shortcut > * If you type COM outside Commons: it would redirect to Comanche Wiki. > > Or am I missing something here? No, (although it's been confused before in this bug) this request is for a simple local namespace alias. No interwiki prefix or whatever. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #30 from Rehman 2011-01-23 03:53:44 UTC --- (In reply to comment #29) > No, (although it's been confused before in this bug) this request is for a > simple local namespace alias. No interwiki prefix or whatever. So considering all the facts discussed above, from our non-developer point of view there are no issues in assigning COM as a shortcut for Commons at Wikimedia Commons? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 12600] Create project namespace alias "COM" for Commons
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 --- Comment #31 from Rehman 2011-01-23 05:12:08 UTC --- I have also started a local discussion here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump&oldid=48600763#.22COM:.22_as_a_redirect_to_.22Commons:.22_only_within_Wikimedia_Commons Please see the current version for updated discussions; an editor did mention that it is almost impossible to have the COM "for use only within Commons", if the Comanche Wikipedia existed. Also, on a rather different topic, the Wikipedia article states that the language is used by around 200 people only, all of them elderly. It is quite unlikely that one of them would come up and propose a new com.wiki. Not going against the devs, but IMVHO holding up a useful shortcut for an almost-extinct language is sort of unproductive. Just saying. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
