[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #26 from j.mccra...@comcast.net 2011-07-11 15:32:31 UTC --- I have the stub threshold disabled - what else can do it? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #25 from Bawolff 2011-07-11 15:29:14 UTC --- >This is becoming a severe problem for when I am logged in If its just one you're logged in, that would probably mean you are using a preference that interferes with page caching (like the stub threshold option). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #24 from j.mccra...@comcast.net 2011-07-11 15:13:32 UTC --- Well, that is the way it was yesterday. It isn't as bad today. The pages load quick enough but the edit takes a while. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #23 from j.mccra...@comcast.net 2011-07-11 14:57:50 UTC --- This bug has been getting worse on the English Wikipedia. Now, when I am logged in, articles that don't have nearly as many links are taking 35 seconds to load. Examples are [[Stalemate]] amd [[Zugzwang]]. These use a moderate number of inline author/date (Harvard) references. Doing a diff, editing, or comparing selected versions takes probably 2 minutes or longer - when it works. This is becoming a severe problem for when I am logged in. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #22 from MZMcBride 2011-06-24 00:00:07 UTC --- (In reply to comment #21) > Converting the citation system from templates to PHP is an interesting idea. > We > could add RefToolbar into it while we're at it (which is still on-wiki > JavaScript). bug 26786 — sorry, should've included this in my last comment. It has most of the discussion regarding this idea. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #21 from Ryan Kaldari 2011-06-23 23:55:18 UTC --- Converting the citation system from templates to PHP is an interesting idea. We could add RefToolbar into it while we're at it (which is still on-wiki JavaScript). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #20 from MZMcBride 2011-06-23 23:50:53 UTC --- (In reply to comment #19) > Any updates on this? Editors are now resorting to untemplating citations so > that pages will load in a reasonable time. I just tested the Barack Obama > article and got a 54 second load time (not counting the js). I think Tim did some tests regarding this problem by using HipHop instead of Zend. It's a band-aid, but it'll help for a while. HipHop dropped the parsing time down to 10ms or so on the Barack Obama article, I think? But MediaWiki isn't close to being able to switch to HipHop, as far as I'm aware. Tim started support on that, so a healthy framework exists, but the fine-grained support is all missing at this point. These particular templates (the citation ones) could be converted into a PHP extension (and Svip has done some work on this in extensions/TemplateAdventures), but people disagree about whether that's the right approach, and perfect is the enemy of the done. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #19 from Ryan Kaldari 2011-06-23 23:41:14 UTC --- Any updates on this? Editors are now resorting to untemplating citations so that pages will load in a reasonable time. I just tested the Barack Obama article and got a 54 second load time (not counting the js). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Mark A. Hershberger changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |ro...@wikimedia.org |org | --- Comment #18 from Mark A. Hershberger 2011-05-09 22:20:18 UTC --- per May 2, 2010 bug triage: Please let robla unassign himself so that he is reminded about this he has time to incorporate it into our future development. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #17 from Platonides 2011-05-07 22:26:16 UTC --- My bad. You are completely right, Bawolff (description + looking pointless). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #16 from Bawolff 2011-05-06 03:06:56 UTC --- yes. Note the "disable browser page caching" only affects how mediawiki gives 304 not modified responses. As far as i know, it does not mess with parser cache (btw, whats the point of that pref anyways, seems pointless, but thats off topic) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #15 from j.mccra...@comcast.net 2011-05-06 03:02:43 UTC --- OK, I have "threshold for stub" disabled and "disable browser page caching" is not checked. These are the way they should be, right? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 MZMcBride changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|ro...@wikimedia.org |wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. ||org --- Comment #14 from MZMcBride 2011-05-06 02:48:44 UTC --- (In reply to comment #9) > Can something be done to get these down to 10 seconds or less? You should follow bug 26786. (In reply to comment #13) > I can't find "never show cached page" or "stub threshold" under "My > preferences" - where are they? "Disable browser page caching" and "Threshold for stub link formatting (bytes)" under the "Appearance" tab. (In reply to comment #13) > Also, what other preferences isolate groups - that sounds like my problem. I don't really follow this. _Anything_ that requires a page to be parsed (purging, showing content under a diff, the parse API module, previewing a page, saving an edit to a page, etc.) is going to be slow with a lot of citation templates. A very limited number of user preferences might make this problem worse, but the underlying problem is going to remain a problem no matter what your user preferences are set to. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #13 from j.mccra...@comcast.net 2011-05-06 02:33:10 UTC --- I can't find "never show cached page" or "stub threshold" under "My preferences" - where are they? Also, what other preferences isolate groups - that sounds like my problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #12 from Platonides 2011-05-05 21:18:49 UTC --- Yes. That should give you faster diffs, as the slow part is doing the rendering (but you need an additional click to see that content). The worst cache offenders are 'never show cached page' and the stub threshold. Other user preferences isolate groups of users so that you can only get a cached page if someone (inclusing yourself) with the same preference set has viewed it recently before. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #11 from j.mccra...@comcast.net 2011-05-05 20:29:34 UTC --- Do you mean the "do not show page content below diffs" option? As far as cache-breaking preferences, not as far as I know, but I don't know the implications of all of the options. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #10 from Platonides 2011-05-05 20:21:33 UTC --- > I'm glad this problem is finally getting some attention. I don't know if it > is > the same problem, but articles like [[Stalemate]] on the English Wikipedia can > take more than 20 seconds to load (and longer to do a diff or save an edit.) You don't need to wait for rendering it if you just want a diff. Change your preferences to show content-less diffs or apppend diffonly=1 to the url. Subsequent views should be cached. Do you have some cache-breaking preference enabled? (eg. marking stub links) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #9 from j.mccra...@comcast.net 2011-05-04 19:13:11 UTC --- Can something be done to get these down to 10 seconds or less? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #8 from Ryan Kaldari 2011-05-04 19:08:15 UTC --- There are undoubtedly thousands of articles on en.wiki that take over 30 seconds to load. If you find any that take a minute or longer, however, those might be useful for testing against and/or profiling. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #7 from j.mccra...@comcast.net 2011-05-04 18:44:03 UTC --- [[Endgame tablebase]] on the English WP also takes a long time to load. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 --- Comment #6 from j.mccra...@comcast.net 2011-05-04 04:45:07 UTC --- I'm glad this problem is finally getting some attention. I don't know if it is the same problem, but articles like [[Stalemate]] on the English Wikipedia can take more than 20 seconds to load (and longer to do a diff or save an edit.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Mark A. Hershberger changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|triage | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Mark A. Hershberger changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |ro...@wikimedia.org |org | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Mark A. Hershberger changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||triage CC||m...@everybody.org -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 19262] Pages with a high number of citation templates suffer extremely slow rendering or read timeout for logged in users
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19262 Ryan Kaldari changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Pages with a high number of |Pages with a high number of |particular templates suffer |citation templates suffer |extremely slow rendering or |extremely slow rendering or |read timeout for logged in |read timeout for logged in |users |users -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
