[Bug 19958] Rename MediaWiki-CVS list to MediaWiki-commits

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Antoine "hashar" Musso  changed:

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 CC||has...@free.fr

--- Comment #25 from Antoine "hashar" Musso  2012-06-18 
21:21:24 UTC ---
The gmane gateway seems to receive the mails just fine:

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki.cvs/113859

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Daniel Zahn  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #24 from Daniel Zahn  2012-06-18 16:02:27 UTC 
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15:52 mutante: making the mailing list switch. mediawiki-cvs ->
mediawiki-commits 

15:58 mutante: copied full config/users/passes from mediawiki-cvs to
mediawiki-commits, merged redirects, added old list name to acceptable_aliases
in recipient filters

15:59 mutante: there have been no archives, so that should be it. there may be
another issue in BZ 37690 but should be unchanged by renaming

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--- Comment #23 from Daniel Zahn  2012-06-18 14:37:39 UTC 
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You have successfully created the mailing list mediawiki-commits ...

(first step of "renaming")

The switch has not been made but you can tell once it is done if this gerrit
change has been merged: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11861/2

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--- Comment #22 from Daniel Zahn  2012-06-18 14:09:50 UTC 
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starting to rename to MediaWiki-commits as originally requested. if you have
concerns about the new name please speak up now.

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--- Comment #21 from Daniel Zahn  2012-06-12 06:36:40 UTC 
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filed an RT. will rename it shortly.

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--- Comment #20 from Daniel Zahn  2012-06-12 06:26:46 UTC 
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http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Mailman#Rename_a_mailing_list

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Daniel Zahn  changed:

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p858snake  changed:

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--- Comment #19 from p858snake  2012-05-03 20:40:13 UTC ---
CC'ing Daniel since he has done the last coupleish.

Maybe it is still a bit more complemented then I thought since we didn't care
about archives since we had non, But do we really care the current subscriber
list, As pointed out if we don't move them over, It would allow people to work
out if they still want them… then we could just do a new list without the
rename and advertise that.

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--- Comment #18 from p858snake  2012-05-03 20:33:48 UTC ---
Bug 35531 is at lease one request for a ML of Git commits.

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p858snake  changed:

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 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|WONTFIX |

--- Comment #17 from p858snake  2012-05-03 20:32:56 UTC ---
Reopening, It's not that bad of process (especially for this list, since we
don't need as much). And the SVN -> Git change over doesn't change anything
with out desire for a ML from my understanding.

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Thehelpfulone  changed:

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 Resolution||WONTFIX

--- Comment #16 from Thehelpfulone  2012-05-03 
20:23:17 UTC ---
I'm going to close this as a WONTFIX, renaming a mailing list is a bit of
lengthy process and in this case it seems clear that it's not too necessary,
and well we've moved from Subversion to Git so this may even be an obsolete
mailing list for the majority of people.

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--- Comment #15 from Krinkle  2011-08-08 08:29:36 UTC ---
(yep, the same ppl who subscribe to wikibugs-l, except that I am one of the
latter)

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Krinkle  changed:

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--- Comment #14 from Krinkle  2011-08-08 08:28:51 UTC ---
Although I'm not one of them, I know a few people who subscribe to this list so
that they can mark commits as 'read' (which is not possible through IRC or
CodeReview extension).

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--- Comment #13 from Brion Vibber  2011-08-06 04:35:17 UTC 
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By which I mean some folks will go "oh I'm still getting those? I'd better
unsubscribe and delete my giant folder of unread cvs emails". ;)

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--- Comment #12 from Brion Vibber  2011-08-06 04:29:23 UTC 
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These days I'd actually recommend just dropping the list entirely; for myself
at least it's been 100% obsoleted by IRC notifications and CodeReview.

If some folks do find it useful in their workflow still, then keeping it is
fine.

Renaming or resubscribing can indeed mess with peoples' filters, so expect to
lose some remaining subscribers at that point.

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Platonides  changed:

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--- Comment #11 from Platonides  2011-08-05 22:55:29 UTC 
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A list admin could
a) See the list of current subscribers (comment #6)
b) Manually subscribe them to a new one
No need to ask users to do it manually. Although if they are too much, you may
prefer not to rename anything. Basically because that disrupts everyone's
filters.

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--- Comment #10 from Casey Brown  2011-08-05 22:52:45 UTC 
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That's a very good idea for this case actually. Since the list doesn't archive,
there's really no need to move anything. We don't even need to spam people, we
could just subscribe the whole membership to the new list and tell them to
update their filters.

Does that sound good? I'd like Brion's response especially, since he's the
reporter. =]

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--- Comment #9 from p858snake  2011-08-05 22:48:58 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #8)
Oh and it's not like we would loose anything with this method since we don't
archive the list either.

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--- Comment #8 from p858snake  2011-08-05 22:47:05 UTC ---
How about we cheat Setup the new list with whatever we want, then spam the
old list telling people to resubscribe to the new one every week or so then
after a month kill it off?

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Casey Brown  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Casey Brown  2011-08-05 18:07:36 UTC 
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> From what I understand, renaming a list requires a root user.

Probably. This is a useful help page:


There are a few mailing lists we'd want to rename if we did so, and this is
just one of them. (Another is private-l.) We really don't care for the most
part -- we'd love to be able to rename lists, but it's not that easy and it's
not really necessary/pressing.

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Chad H.  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Chad H.  2011-08-05 18:00:30 UTC 
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>From what I understand, renaming a list requires a root user.

Also: how many people are even subscribed to this list? I know myself and
Roan...but are there any other crazies on it these days? I have no problems
with leaving it -cvs, since we don't really require membership these days do be
a developer.

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Casey Brown  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Casey Brown  2011-08-05 17:58:24 UTC 
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(In reply to comment #3)
> Make mailing list requests (new ML or rename) consistent: based on bug 30105 
> it
> looks like caseybrown wants these, add wikibugs to CC

It's not really possible to easily rename mailing lists, especially not from
the front-end, so I can't handle this.

Someone on ops would need to do it when we decide we're going to go through the
trouble of renaming mailing lists. It'll likely happen around the same time as
we bite the bullet and decide to rename wikis. ;-)

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--- Comment #4 from Brion Vibber  2011-08-04 22:39:18 UTC 
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Please note that it is no longer required to manually CC wikibugs-l when
changing assignments; updates will still mirror to it automatically.

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--- Comment #3 from Dan Collins  2011-08-04 21:43:04 UTC 
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Make mailing list requests (new ML or rename) consistent: based on bug 30105 it
looks like caseybrown wants these, add wikibugs to CC

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p858snake  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from p858snake  2010-08-31 08:12:10 UTC ---
That list isn't disabled, it's just set to not archive because it broke things
(http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Server_admin_log/Archive_15)

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Raimond Spekking  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Raimond Spekking  2010-08-31 
08:03:04 UTC ---
List was disabled months ago.

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