[Bug 20554] Expose average lag (avglag) a well as maxlag
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution||WONTFIX --- Comment #11 from Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org 2009-12-01 01:55:15 UTC --- Reverted. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 20554] Expose average lag (avglag) a well as maxlag
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||tstarl...@wikimedia.org Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #5 from Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org 2009-11-17 22:46:06 UTC --- I'm not keen on this. The idea of maxlag is to perform writes as fast as the slowest slave will allow. If you keep doing writes until half the slaves are overloaded, the slowest slaves will be past 30s lag and completely depooled. That doesn't seem like an appropriate place to stop writing. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 20554] Expose average lag (avglag) a well as maxlag
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||agarr...@wikimedia.org --- Comment #6 from Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org 2009-11-17 22:50:59 UTC --- (In reply to comment #0) Background: AWB has been (or is still, nearing finishing) reimplemented to use the api for editing. We've decided its wise to follow maxlag, more so for bot editing. So we are using the recommended value of 5ms for bot editing, but this became a pain for users doing semi-automated editing, as they would quite often fall prey to maxlag restrictions preventing editing. We therefore changed this to 20ms for users. Although, this solves some problems for users, it doesn't solve them completely.. And in some cases, editing can be done (and following guidelines) using a multi tabbed browser and some fast clicking.. Do you mean 5 s? 5 ms is probably more than the latency between the master and some slaves on a bad day. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 20554] Expose average lag (avglag) a well as maxlag
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 --- Comment #7 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2009-11-17 22:52:58 UTC --- Yeah, i do. 5ms wouldn't be worth bothering about ;) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 20554] Expose average lag (avglag) a well as maxlag
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 --- Comment #8 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2009-11-17 22:53:30 UTC --- I guess it kinda depends on how this is used, and the nature of the client. Bots performing maintenance tasks can afford to wait for maxlag to drop, but tools like AWB that aim to provide relatively fast user interaction don't want to wait all day. In a scenario where one slave is badly lagged but the rest is not, avglag could help for these slightly higher priority edits. Of course it would need to be set to a low value like 2. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 20554] Expose average lag (avglag) a well as maxlag
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 --- Comment #9 from Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org 2009-11-17 22:55:15 UTC --- (In reply to comment #8) I guess it kinda depends on how this is used, and the nature of the client. Bots performing maintenance tasks can afford to wait for maxlag to drop, but tools like AWB that aim to provide relatively fast user interaction don't want to wait all day. In a scenario where one slave is badly lagged but the rest is not, avglag could help for these slightly higher priority edits. Of course it would need to be set to a low value like 2. Well, if your approach is keep writing regardless of whether you lag a slave out until it's depooled, then you might as well not bother checking for slave lag at all. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 20554] Expose average lag (avglag) a well as maxlag
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 --- Comment #10 from Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org 2009-11-17 22:58:27 UTC --- (In reply to comment #8) I guess it kinda depends on how this is used, and the nature of the client. Bots performing maintenance tasks can afford to wait for maxlag to drop, but tools like AWB that aim to provide relatively fast user interaction don't want to wait all day. In a scenario where one slave is badly lagged but the rest is not, avglag could help for these slightly higher priority edits. Of course it would need to be set to a low value like 2. If they can't afford to wait, they should not specify a maxlag value. Then they'll get the same lag policy as ordinary editors. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 20554] Expose average lag (avglag) a well as maxlag
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 --- Comment #1 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2009-09-15 20:04:40 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=6554) -- (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=6554) Attempt at implementing avglag Patch attached as per IRC ;) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 20554] Expose average lag (avglag) a well as maxlag
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #6554 is|0 |1 obsolete|| --- Comment #2 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2009-09-15 20:37:04 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=6555) -- (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=6555) Improvement on last patch, as per roans comments on irc, and other minor tweaks noticed A side point; i haven't added it to the maintenance patches where maxlag is used.. IMHO it shouldn't be needed there? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 20554] Expose average lag (avglag) a well as maxlag
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Implement avglag |Expose average lag ||(avglag) a well as maxlag -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
