[Bug 25002] Install of MW on DB2 fails (new-index.php r70326)

2010-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||INVALID

--- Comment #11 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com 2010-11-01 14:38:42 UTC 
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Marking INVALID. Reported bug was with old installer. New installer contains no
DB2 support.

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[Bug 25002] Install of MW on DB2 fails (new-index.php r70326)

2010-10-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com 2010-10-06 23:49:42 UTC 
---
(In reply to comment #9)
 (In reply to comment #7)
  [21:19:26] ^demon See, I consider Oracle semi-functional.
  [21:19:29] ^demon It mostly works.
 
 My main interest is testing my code against those dbs that are considered
 officially supported. So, if there is a list of these (which, I suppose would
 depend on the release), then I will use it and stop testing against the 
 others.

I answered this (and I think other) questions in
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/49561
back in September. As far as I'm concerned, the ones worth testing and
maintaining right now are:

mySQL, PostgreSQL, SQLite, Oracle.

Until DB2 and MSSQL finish their DatabaseBase subclasses and generally work
(I'm aware that Postgres and Oracle still fail on some edge cases, but their
completeness is far beyond the other two here), I don't see any need to test
them and even less need to include them in the installer and advertise their
use.

The one caveat is: while Oracle does have a working schema, DatabaseBase class
and (almost complete) new installer code, the maintainer hasn't been writing
patches to upgrade the database, so support is not complete and should NOT be
recommended outside of development environments.

DB2 and MSSQL have code in the old installer, which may or may not work. In
either case, it's not getting fixed at this point. The old installer is dead.

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[Bug 25002] Install of MW on DB2 fails (new-index.php r70326)

2010-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com changed:

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 CC||leons.petrazic...@gmail.com

--- Comment #4 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com 2010-09-01 17:07:15 UTC 
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Stack trace indicates that you've been using the OLD updater, which makes sence
since DB2 isn't currently supported by the new one.

(In reply to comment #3)
 [...] If there is official withdrawal
 of support for DB2 or any other db software, that makes things simpler.

It's not official, but since

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[Bug 25002] Install of MW on DB2 fails (new-index.php r70326)

2010-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com 2010-09-01 17:13:16 UTC 
---
Sorry, hit enter prematurely. Continuing my thought:

It's not official yet, but had been proposed before due to lack of active
support. This may happen as soon as 1.17 simply because the new installer
currently supports only three open-source databases.

For the reference:
http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=New-installer_issuesdiff=309243oldid=309227

I've added the DB2 maintainer to this bug's CC.

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[Bug 25002] Install of MW on DB2 fails (new-index.php r70326)

2010-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Dan Nessett dness...@yahoo.com 2010-09-01 17:19:24 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #5)
 Sorry, hit enter prematurely. Continuing my thought:
 
 It's not official yet, but had been proposed before due to lack of active
 support. This may happen as soon as 1.17 simply because the new installer
 currently supports only three open-source databases.
 
 For the reference:
 http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=New-installer_issuesdiff=309243oldid=309227
 
 I've added the DB2 maintainer to this bug's CC.

Thanks for the info.

I had planned on installing the free Oracle db software and having a MW
installation that runs over it, but if it is not supported, that would be
unnecessary work. Is there somewhere that states the official dbs for each MW
release? For example, while DB2 and Oracle may not be supported for 1.17, I
would be interested if they are officially supported for 1.16.

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[Bug 25002] Install of MW on DB2 fails (new-index.php r70326)

2010-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com 2010-09-01 17:22:30 UTC 
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[21:19:26] ^demon See, I consider Oracle semi-functional.
[21:19:29] ^demon It mostly works.

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[Bug 25002] Install of MW on DB2 fails (new-index.php r70326)

2010-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Leons Petrazickis leons.petrazic...@gmail.com 2010-09-01 
17:26:07 UTC ---
@Max: Thanks for the CC.

I'm about to commit my outstanding changes. Looking over the diffs now. They
add prepared statement support (to allow INSERT and UPDATE of more than 32k of
text) and fix some issues with the schema.

I haven't looked at new installer yet unfortunately. I'm going to be advising a
database class this fall that's going to be working with DB2 and PHP, and there
may be some student volunteers working with me to improve DB2 support in
MediaWiki.

@Dan: There are issues with DB2 functionality in 1.16.

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[Bug 25002] Install of MW on DB2 fails (new-index.php r70326)

2010-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Dan Nessett dness...@yahoo.com 2010-09-01 17:30:24 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #7)
 [21:19:26] ^demon See, I consider Oracle semi-functional.
 [21:19:29] ^demon It mostly works.

My main interest is testing my code against those dbs that are considered
officially supported. So, if there is a list of these (which, I suppose would
depend on the release), then I will use it and stop testing against the others.

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[Bug 25002] Install of MW on DB2 fails (new-index.php r70326)

2010-08-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2010-09-01 00:58:18 UTC ---
DB2 is VERY unsupported

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[Bug 25002] Install of MW on DB2 fails (new-index.php r70326)

2010-08-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2010-09-01 01:12:25 UTC ---
I'm thinking support should be removed, little development, bar getting caught
in other changes...

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[Bug 25002] Install of MW on DB2 fails (new-index.php r70326)

2010-08-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Dan Nessett dness...@yahoo.com 2010-09-01 01:45:53 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #2)
 I'm thinking support should be removed, little development, bar getting caught
 in other changes...

Works for me. The reason I am installing over multiple databases is I am trying
to set up a testing environment against which functionality for the selenium
framework is tested before submitting patches. If there is official withdrawal
of support for DB2 or any other db software, that makes things simpler.

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