[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 --- Comment #13 from aishood...@qk.mine.nu 2011-04-20 14:39:00 UTC --- There is a new CSS unit which could help, at least in new browsers: rem. 1rem is the base size which I meant should be considered the minimum. A Wikipedia specific Gecko/Firefox AddOn was made for this issue: https://github.com/mrothe/wikipedia_font_size_firefox_ext -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 --- Comment #12 from aishood...@qk.mine.nu 2010-11-07 12:12:44 UTC --- In the Firefox Tips Tricks, Wikipedia was selected for the screen shot next to the Zoom feature, introduced with the catchy question, Tired of tiny text? http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/tips/ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 --- Comment #11 from aishood...@qk.mine.nu 2010-10-17 08:47:56 UTC --- I don't understand why, and it is probably not important, but Monobook looked slightly larger. Maybe it was a different typeface. I don't know in what way it doesn't work well at low resolutions. Some times clipping happens which is also undesirable; a narrow column of only 10 characters for body text is also impractical. Nothing stops users from decreasing their font size settings to a size that is suitable for them if they are comfortable reading smaller type: in fact that is the sensible premise. For users with narrow screens there are skins also exist which do not have the column to the left of the article: MySkin at least. There is also en.m.wikipedia.org. I have tested size of 1em by using the feature in FireFox for enforcing a minimum font size. It works well with Vector. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 --- Comment #9 from aishood...@qk.mine.nu 2010-09-30 06:56:28 UTC --- The original title of this bug was falsely narrow, in that it only mentioned sizing in pixels. After your question, I responded and changed the title of this bug. Please, examine the new title if you have not. From my previous response: Looking further, I see that more often it is a relative sizing which is less than 1em (100%). To give some concrete examples of this from vector-main-ltr.css: font-size: 0.75em; font-size: 94%; -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 --- Comment #10 from Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org 2010-09-30 16:36:46 UTC --- Have you experimented with changing this? I am not opposed to using 1em text, but there will need to be yet another redesign for that to play out well, because Vector, like Monobook was designed for 0.75em text. We already have issues with people complaining that the site doesn't work well at resolutions below 1024px wide, and sometimes even complaints about lower resolutions like 720px wide. Increasing the font size will make these problems even worse. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 --- Comment #4 from aishood...@qk.mine.nu 2010-09-29 19:23:55 UTC --- I have interpreted that as meaning that it will be either hidden or 13px . Is that not that the meaning? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution||INVALID --- Comment #5 from Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org 2010-09-29 19:27:13 UTC --- This is a very limited and documented, well tested browser compatibility trick. I don't think there is anything wrong here. Browsers are horrible things, and we usually just to do whatever it takes to get things working. There's no room for being a purist in front-end development. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 aishood...@qk.mine.nu changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #6 from aishood...@qk.mine.nu 2010-09-29 20:05:43 UTC --- What trick is 'This'? It seems there are at least 2 'thises' being discussed. Browsers are capable of making the main issue work as it should. If you wish to make a case to the contrary, please explain or discuss. Perhaps I can help find a way. If you have bug reports handy to the relevant deficiencies of the browsers, that would be best. Pointing to the aforementioned trick documentation would be good. The current implementation not working as well as it could. Designing a user interface goes beyond WORKSFORME. Marking this report as INVALID is invalid. Marking this report as WONTFIX is, in my estimation, unnecessary. Tell about what problem(s) you encounter so that we can fix it. I have written HTML CSS, but I do not know of anything preventing making text legible. Text is a fundamental thing. This is an important issue to get working. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 --- Comment #7 from aishood...@qk.mine.nu 2010-09-29 20:14:58 UTC --- To make it clear, this is not only about the single item which may be sized 13px. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 --- Comment #8 from Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org 2010-09-29 21:06:15 UTC --- (In reply to comment #7) To make it clear, this is not only about the single item which may be sized 13px. Ah, well then, I ask again, as I did in comment #1, Where are you seeing font-sizes defined in pixels? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||platoni...@gmail.com --- Comment #3 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2010-09-28 23:24:30 UTC --- Those 13x font-size contain: DON'T PANIC! Browsers that won't scale this properly are the same browsers that have JS issues that prevent this from ever being shown anyways. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 aishood...@qk.mine.nu changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|specifying font size in |specifying font size in |pixels (px) diminishes |pixels (px) or 1em |usability |diminishes usability -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 25257] specifying font size in pixels (px) or 1em diminishes usability
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25257 --- Comment #2 from aishood...@qk.mine.nu 2010-09-24 08:21:40 UTC --- phase3/skins/vector/screen.css it occurs twice: font-size: 13px; Looking further, I see that more often it is a relative sizing which is less than 1em (100%). Nothing smaller than the user's specified body text font size can be presumed to be sufficiently legible. If these are applied to the user's default text size, the result will be a font which is too small. Easier is to not specify any size 100% or 1em or smaller. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
