[Bug 27347] Set geoiplookup on a different IP than bits
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27347 --- Comment #10 from me.mysel...@yahoo.com 2011-02-13 02:09:57 UTC --- Understood. Thank you to Mark for indicating that GeoIP and bits are on same IP. Will worry about differentiating the two on my end (obviously). Thanks, Ryan, for the info on the use of GeoIP. My motivation for blocking was simply seeing this new (to me, at least) use of GeoIP, without any explanation of what it's for. With the new inclusion of GeoIP functionality in Mozilla browsers, I simply wasn't sure what I as a user was getting, and defaulted to blocking it. I'll look around, but as I didn't yet find any coverage in the Tech Village Pump nor Bugzilla, is there any possibility of writing up a short overview of all the tech used on wikipedia/wikimedia, to allay these kinds of worries? If there isn't one, perhaps we can add one to the wikipedia article on wikipedia? Thanks for the info and help everybody. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27347] Set geoiplookup on a different IP than bits
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27347 Ryan Lane changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rlan...@gmail.com --- Comment #9 from Ryan Lane 2011-02-12 17:09:18 UTC --- Just to make sure you understand that blocking geoip is a fruitless effort for more than just the problem you are having... The geoip stuff simply takes your IP address, and correlates it with the country you are in. We could likely go down to the city scale, but currently are not. You are accomplishing absolutely nothing by blocking the geoip server. Every time you visit any site anywhere, or send a packet to any server in existence, you are sending them the same exact information you are sending to the geoip server. It isn't a breach of privacy as the information you are sending is totally public, and we don't share this information with anyone. The information is added to your session, and isn't available to anyone else. We don't use this information to track you. In fact, we *do* use the information to adjust your content. Currently it is only being used for fundraiser banners, but gadget writers have plans for using the information as well. So, if you block this server, at minimum expect you user experience to not be as good. (Remember that gadgets are javascript, and as such are client side, using information that is only available to you, and not to the gadget writers) FYI, we also use geoip services for load balancing to our caching servers. We do geoip lookup based on your DNS resolver. This is so that we can send you to faster servers for your area. I'm a fairly paranoid person, but I at least am paranoid about things I actually should be paranoid about, and not paranoid about every thing that /sounds scary/. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27347] Set geoiplookup on a different IP than bits
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27347 Mark A. Hershberger changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution||INVALID --- Comment #8 from Mark A. Hershberger 2011-02-12 03:12:43 UTC --- Just finished talking to Rob, where he explained that using up an additional IP to handle this situation wasn't feasible or good policy. However, if you can't make your firewall behave, Rob and I recommend you check out Tor (http://www.torproject.org/). GeoIP will still point somewhere, but it won't be your location. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27347] Set geoiplookup on a different IP than bits
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27347 Mark A. Hershberger changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |rhals...@wikimedia.org |org | Summary|Page formatting/CSS missing |Set geoiplookup on a |- suspected GeoIP |different IP than bits |correlation | --- Comment #7 from Mark A. Hershberger 2011-02-12 02:56:35 UTC --- I'm asking Rob on OPS to look at this, to see if they can set geoiplookup on a different IP address, but he can close it if he doesn't think we should do that. Given that bits and geoiplookup are on the same IP address, I'm guessing your firewall just blocks the IP. Better make sure whitelisting bits doesn't also whitelist geoiplookup if you still want to block it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
