[Bug 28191] Write an extension that invites users to translate untranslated messages

2011-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28191

Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC||s.mazel...@xs4all.nl
 Resolution||WONTFIX

--- Comment #6 from Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl 2011-09-12 13:23:50 UTC ---
Niklas and I discussed this; we do not see any possibilities to properly and
centrally implement this. It would take a huge effort and even then we do not
see how it could be perfect with MediaWiki's flexibility as it currently is.
We're closing this WONTFIX.

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[Bug 28191] Write an extension that invites users to translate untranslated messages

2011-04-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28191

Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|High|Low

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[Bug 28191] Write an extension that invites users to translate untranslated messages

2011-03-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28191

--- Comment #5 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com 2011-03-29 02:25:37 UTC 
---
(In reply to comment #4)
 I work in Polish, where translation coverage is very good, so I have little
 chance to see an untranslated message even in the obscure corners. However, I
 am very often in need to change the translation, since many of them are (out 
 of
 necessity) made out of context of the application workflow. Most of the time I
 spend checking site's JavaScripts, gadgets and grepping the Mediawiki source 
 to
 find the answer where is this (...) message coming from. It is not very easy
 to find the message on translatewiki if I only know the wording. 
 

That's covered by bug 15802, really.

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[Bug 28191] Write an extension that invites users to translate untranslated messages

2011-03-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28191

Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com 2011-03-23 
08:37:59 UTC ---
Been there, tried that and failed. It's impossible to have a translate this
link in every message (think about configuration messages like sidebar, items
on dropdowns, link titles...). Heck, we can't even tell if we got the real
translation or some fallback when outputting text.

Imho the best thing we can do is keeping message documentation adequate, even
it means bugging developers more. There should also be an easy way to make
standard looking screenshots with translatable messages highlighted and linked.

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[Bug 28191] Write an extension that invites users to translate untranslated messages

2011-03-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28191

--- Comment #3 from Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org 2011-03-23 09:08:15 
UTC ---
I hate to mention the dreaded f word (*cough*facebook*cough*) but their setup
for inline translations has a lot going for it from the translator point of
view.  It has exactly this functionality: on any message, translated or not,
you can click and be given the opportunity to vote the translation up or down,
retranslate, comment, submit a first translation, etc. etc.  Obviously we would
start small: first pass = send the user to translatewiki to the page for the
message.  But once that basic functionality were in place we could think about
other features.

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[Bug 28191] Write an extension that invites users to translate untranslated messages

2011-03-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28191

Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com 2011-03-23 
11:38:48 UTC ---
I agree with Niklas that having 'translate this' everywhere would not probably
work. I don't know the f solution, but looks interesting.

I work in Polish, where translation coverage is very good, so I have little
chance to see an untranslated message even in the obscure corners. However, I
am very often in need to change the translation, since many of them are (out of
necessity) made out of context of the application workflow. Most of the time I
spend checking site's JavaScripts, gadgets and grepping the Mediawiki source to
find the answer where is this (...) message coming from. It is not very easy
to find the message on translatewiki if I only know the wording. 

The problem is not only concerning special page aliases or namespaces, but also
some more complex messages. In bug 26463, I couldn't figure it out despite
having MediaWiki source and message translations from translatewiki.

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[Bug 28191] Write an extension that invites users to translate untranslated messages

2011-03-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28191

Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Normal  |High

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[Bug 28191] Write an extension that invites users to translate untranslated messages

2011-03-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28191

Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||i18n
 CC||m...@everybody.org
Summary|invite users to translate   |Write an extension that
   |untranslated messages   |invites users to translate
   ||untranslated messages

--- Comment #1 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-03-23 
00:53:06 UTC ---
Retitling this bug.  An extension to do this makes some sense.  After that
extension is written, adding it to MediaWiki installations (and actually doing
the invitation) is a separate step.

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