[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Brad Jorsch  2011-05-23 
21:56:23 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> Why does "AnomieBOT II" even need the rights all it is doing is creating
> subpages in the template namespace...

Because those template subpages are mass-protected using the title blacklist. I
believe the logic there is to prevent people from being able to vandalize
templates that no human will watch.

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||WONTFIX

--- Comment #12 from Mark A. Hershberger  2011-05-23 
13:56:55 UTC ---
Thank(In reply to comment #11)
> [not
> to mention the fact people are arguing about it on a bug report, means its
> debatable, all the more reason there should be clear discussion on wiki to
> point to].

My feelings exactly.  Closing as WONTFIX because you really need to show clear
community consensus.  Please open a new bug when you have it.

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bawolff  changed:

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--- Comment #11 from Bawolff  2011-05-23 03:54:56 UTC ---
Shouldn't this all be discussed on wiki?  Bug 22141 was filed over a year ago,
any concensensus mentioned in comment 2 is really super old at this point [not
to mention the fact people are arguing about it on a bug report, means its
debatable, all the more reason there should be clear discussion on wiki to
point to].

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from p858snake  2011-05-22 03:49:49 UTC ---
Why does "AnomieBOT II" even need the rights all it is doing is creating
subpages in the template namespace...

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Brad Jorsch  2011-05-22 
03:36:34 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> Brad - we can just +sysop the bot, yes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&limit=1&username=Anomie

Adminbot operators on enwiki must themselves be admins. We'd have to either
replace the bot operator or pass an RFA.

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Prodego  2011-05-21 19:20:13 UTC ---
Brad - we can just +sysop the bot, yes?

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Simon Walker  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Simon Walker  2011-05-21 
19:09:02 UTC ---
JoeGazz84: wrong, wrong, and wrong.

tboverride not required for creating user accounts which are blacklisted.
Actually, EITHER tboverride OR tboverride-account are required. Hence, it is
not essential to some requests, and neither would it break any system.

The only thing it would actually change would be the ability of account
creators to edit specific blacklisted pages. It wouldn't stop account creators
from creating accounts with blacklisted names.

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Brad Jorsch  changed:

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 CC||b-jorsch@alum.northwestern.
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--- Comment #6 from Brad Jorsch  2011-05-21 
15:48:28 UTC ---
Note that fulfilling this request will break certain bots on enwiki unless at
the same time a new group with the tboverride right is created and this group
is given to the relevant bots. I don't know why Prodego didn't bother to
mention this, as he is certainly aware of the fact.

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Prodego  2011-05-20 23:53:52 UTC ---
The consensus, if you read the original discussion to create the account
creator right, was to give the ability to override the username blacklist. Not
all blacklists. That is the right tboverride-account.

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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JoeGazz84  changed:

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--- Comment #4 from JoeGazz84  2011-05-20 22:51:09 UTC 
---
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28policy%29#Restoring_to_Account_Creators_the_Ability_to_Edit_Editnotices
Please see the above, there is a VP proposal indirectly relating to this. Also,
tboverride is reqiuired for some tasks that prevent certain usernames to be
created. This right is essential to some account requests. I recommend speaking
to the Wikimedia user Stwalkerster before changing that group as it affects the
system.

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Ruslan  2011-05-20 19:15:20 UTC ---
This bug was about creating a new userright, not about changing the real
configuration. The latter needs a consensus.

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Prodego  2011-05-20 11:52:25 UTC ---
There was no discussion to give account creators the ability to override any
blacklist but the username to begin with, so it shouldn't have been done. Bug
22141 was a bug to fix that error, but it was never completed.

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Ruslan  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Ruslan  2011-05-20 05:47:47 UTC ---
There has been no discussion, no consensus exists for this change. I suggest
closing this request unless a consensus is obtained first. See bug 28440 as a
precedent.

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Reedy  changed:

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger  changed:

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Prodego  changed:

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[Bug 29006] Replace tboveride userright with tboverride-account for the 'Account creators' group on enwiki

2011-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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