[Bug 31210] Transclude image description from Wikimedia Commons into [[File:]] caption on Wikipedias

2012-12-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31210

Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Unprioritized   |Lowest

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[Bug 31210] Transclude image description from Wikimedia Commons into [[File:]] caption on Wikipedias

2012-08-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31210

Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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 CC||bryan.tongm...@gmail.com,
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  Component|General/Unknown |File management
Product|Wikimedia   |MediaWiki

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[Bug 31210] Transclude image description from Wikimedia Commons into [[File:]] caption on Wikipedias

2012-08-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31210

--- Comment #3 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2012-08-23 09:09:57 UTC 
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Moved to MediaWiki because this should be possible also for wikis using
InstantCommons for instance.

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[Bug 31210] Transclude image description from Wikimedia Commons into [[File:]] caption on Wikipedias

2011-09-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31210

Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com changed:

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 Depends on|4547|

--- Comment #2 from Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com 2011-09-29 20:49:31 UTC ---
Removingbug 4547 dependency. For the long term interwiki transclusion
should not be (ab)used for this purpose. If this feature request is
implemented, it should certainly not be done that way. Moreover because the
{{Information}} template is *not* part of the MediaWiki software.

When the multimedia projects get more attention again, and meta-data is finally
stored in the database and moved out of templates, this can simply become a
parser function (e.g. {{#file:12345135|description}}). The repository interface
takes care of the interface to the database or (locally cached) API modules.

See also [[mw:License integration]]

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[Bug 31210] Transclude image description from Wikimedia Commons into [[File:]] caption on Wikipedias

2011-09-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com changed:

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 Depends on||31257

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[Bug 31210] Transclude image description from Wikimedia Commons into [[File:]] caption on Wikipedias

2011-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz changed:

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 Depends on||4547

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[Bug 31210] Transclude image description from Wikimedia Commons into [[File:]] caption on Wikipedias

2011-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org 2011-09-28 21:23:26 
UTC ---
This is a bad semantic connection that you are making I think. Defining a
default caption is a possibility, but it definitely should NOT be the image
description (which can be hundreds of words at times). The description is a
very bad default caption (where one describes, the other summarizes). If such a
feature would ever be implemented, there would more likely be a separate
default caption property added somewhere. There is also the issue of multiple
languages of the different wikipedias adding complexity and most languages
would never have a default caption for most images probably. (Last assessment
based on the fact that most images currently only have English descriptions)

Next to that, a default caption in the eyes of many is a bad idea in the first
place, because a caption should be relevant to not only the image, but also
towards the text that is surrounding the image. Many images are used many times
for different purposes, and to do that with a single caption is bad article
writing. Making a careful assessment about what you put into a caption on every
single usage of an image, will eventually lead to better written articles I
think.

Many people who have suggested this feature in the past on village pumps etc,
see it as something that would save time. In my personal view, it is doubtful
wether it actually would save time in the grand scheme of things (wikipedias in
a couple of hundred languages), but also, I fear that the quality of the
captions inside the articles will worsen because of the feature.

Having said that, there are specific use cases that might benefit by doing this
in a slightly different way perhaps. I'm thinking about the Image insertion
dialogs/wizards for instance. But it could be difficult to implement that
without running into the same pitfalls as detailed above ...

Related are bug 29202, bug 19906.

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