[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2013-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33677

Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
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 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #11 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com ---
I'm just going to mark this as fixed. ULS provides this functionality, and
there is no mention about WMF where this functionality cannot currently be
enabled.

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2013-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33677

Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|User preferences|General/Unknown
 Blocks|25815   |
 Depends on|13097   |

--- Comment #12 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #11)
 I'm just going to mark this as fixed. ULS provides this functionality, and
 there is no mention about WMF where this functionality cannot currently be
 enabled.

Fixing dependencies and component then.

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2013-11-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Helder mybugs.m...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2013-10-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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 Depends on||13097
 Whiteboard||UniversalLanguageSelector-f
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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2013-10-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33677

Helder mybugs.m...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2013-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Michelle Lee Kosik kosi...@mail.com changed:

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-12-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33677

Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

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   Priority|Unprioritized   |Normal

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33677

--- Comment #1 from jida...@jidanni.org 2012-01-12 01:03:56 UTC ---
There remains the question of how to exactly design a language
selector that everybody can understand. All I can say is the
aforementioned real websites offer very good examples there on the
footers of their pages!

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from jida...@jidanni.org 2012-01-12 01:05:51 UTC ---
http://www.google.com/ 's approach is somewhat different... but still usually
there at the bottom of the page.

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #3 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2012-01-12 01:12:27 UTC ---
We currently have 380 languages, So you would need to store a cache for each
one of those languages (depending on your setup), You would need a nice
language selector.

Although I don't see the need in most cases, Since in most wikis I have come
access, The user language is usually the same as the content language.

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2012-01-12 01:27:42 UTC 
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This would be absolutely trivial to do in a cache-friendly way... in a
sufficiently redone JavaScript application UI. But I don't think jidanni would
find it to work in lynx. :)

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from jida...@jidanni.org 2012-01-12 01:51:27 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
No worry, I'm with the 99% on this issue. What's good for the real sites is
good for me!

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Liangent liang...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Liangent liang...@gmail.com 2012-01-12 04:17:59 UTC ---
There's a major difference between Wikipedia and those sites you listed:
Wikipedia has different sites for contents in different languages, and those
websites have an only global site with contents in mixed language.

So on those websites, people using completely different language use the same
site, so it's important to provide a language selector. While on Wikipedia,
normally (I mean, except for those people doing crosswiki work) only people who
know the content language come to the site and since the interface language
defaults to the content language, it's safe to assume that people can
understand the default interface language.

However it can be useful for wikis with mixed contents, eg,
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home .

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2012-01-12 04:27:25 UTC ---
just a slight note from the IRC channel, for anyone that may want to attempt
this:

 [11:31] p858snake|l brion: I believe commons tried to do it a cache 
 friendly way and couldn't get it to work properly for anons (although we have 
 a slightly more complicated cache setup than normal)
 [11:33] brion p858snake|l, yeah the right way is to make the frontend a 
 javascript app that uses the api, and only has to fetch UI messages once etc 
 ;)

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33677

--- Comment #8 from jida...@jidanni.org 2012-01-12 04:31:33 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #6)
 There's a major difference between Wikipedia and those sites you listed
So how would you suggest owners of read-only databases who would like
their database to be accessible in more than one language proceed? Hack
up some xx.example.com massive redirect nightmare? One can't always
assume well the content has that problem too so there is no need to
make the interface accessible. I mean I keep reading about the efforts
to make things internationally accessible, e.g.,
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/09/end-of-sprint-6-translate-and-other-goodies/
but at the same time there is no path in ones language from a MediaWiki
Main Page through the many steps to set up the correct preference... if
indeed a given MediaWiki allows logging in in the first place.

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from jida...@jidanni.org 2012-01-12 04:35:07 UTC ---
By database I mean e.g., a ham radio frequency database or a database of Latin
names for plants, etc. that the owner has chosen to use MediaWiki as the
platform.
I.e., the content is just numbers or other language neutral items, so why can't
the interface (MediaWiki) be language neutral from click 1?

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com 
2012-01-12 04:45:43 UTC ---
There are some efforts going on designing a language selector UI  by
integrating language tools to it. See
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector for a draft
specification.

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[Bug 33677] enable setting language preference without requiring login

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il changed:

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