[Bug 38300] no blank before/after (talk | contribs) in Japanese messages

2012-07-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38300

Penn Station pennstation...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #9 from Penn Station pennstation...@gmail.com 2012-07-30 13:27:12 
UTC ---
Yes, the problem was fixed. It took about 2 weeks to reflect the change on 
the jawiki, but now it works fine. Many thanks for your cooperation.

I will change the status to RESOLVED with FIXED.

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[Bug 38300] no blank before/after (talk | contribs) in Japanese messages

2012-07-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38300

Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2012-07-26 20:39:36 UTC 
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(In reply to comment #7)
 I have updated MediaWiki:Word-separator/ja [1] to insert blank.
 I'll briefly check if or not this causes side effects.
 Hope this will work fine.
 
 [1] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Word-separator/ja

Messages should have been updated, is the problem fixed?

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[Bug 38300] no blank before/after (talk | contribs) in Japanese messages

2012-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38300

--- Comment #7 from Penn Station pennstation...@gmail.com 2012-07-12 06:26:45 
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I have updated MediaWiki:Word-separator/ja [1] to insert blank.
I'll briefly check if or not this causes side effects.
Hope this will work fine.

[1] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Word-separator/ja

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[Bug 38300] no blank before/after (talk | contribs) in Japanese messages

2012-07-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38300

Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #1 from Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl 2012-07-11 14:02:13 UTC ---
This is the message pipe-separator. I've removed the spaces around it[1].
This will be updated in Wikimedia wikis somewhere in the next 48 hours.

[1] https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Pipe-separator/ja

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[Bug 38300] no blank before/after (talk | contribs) in Japanese messages

2012-07-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38300

--- Comment #2 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com 2012-07-11 
14:47:40 UTC ---
I understand this is about 2012年7月11日 (水) 00:00 Example[SPACE MISSING HERE](会話
| 投稿記録)[SPACE MISSING HERE]が rather than the spaces around the pipe.

Can you provide link where you see this?

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[Bug 38300] no blank before/after (talk | contribs) in Japanese messages

2012-07-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38300

--- Comment #3 from Penn Station pennstation...@gmail.com 2012-07-11 16:02:17 
UTC ---
Yes, Niklas's comment is what I want to state here.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/block is an example.

Foo[SPACE MISSING HERE](会話 | 投稿記録) が 999.99.99.99[SPACE MISSING HERE](会話)
を1週間ブロックしました。

Please note that you might see the second blank in this case, but this is 
just because that [[MediaWiki:Blocklogentry/ja]] has been modified to enforce  
blank at the beginning of the message. This blank is not originally necessary 
if there are blanks around (会話 | 投稿記録).
Indeed, [[MediaWiki:Blocklogentry/en]] does not start with blank.

You can also see examples on many other places such as watchlist, recent
changes, 
page history, etc on the Japanese Wikipedia (or using setland=ja on url).


Anyway, Siebrand, spaces around the pipe are necessary and should not be
removed.
Could you please revert the change?

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[Bug 38300] no blank before/after (talk | contribs) in Japanese messages

2012-07-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38300

Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|FIXED   |

--- Comment #4 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com 2012-07-11 
17:58:32 UTC ---
That space might come (=be missing because of) from mediawiki:word-separator
message.
http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Word-separator/jaaction=edit

Can you explain in more details what are the rules for having or not having
space?

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[Bug 38300] no blank before/after (talk | contribs) in Japanese messages

2012-07-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38300

--- Comment #5 from Penn Station pennstation...@gmail.com 2012-07-11 19:25:37 
UTC ---
Yes, MediaWiki:Word-separator seems to be related to those missing blanks.

Okay, I'll try to explain the general rule briefly below (using my user name).

Note: _ means blank
Note: two kinds of punctuation: ja:(|) en: (|) 
Note: Japanese and English characters coexist in Japanese statements.

 1. [en only+enPunc] Penn_Station_(talk_|_contribs)_: Good
 2. [en only+enPunc] Penn_Station(talk|contribs): Bad
 3. [en+ja+enPunc]   Penn_Station_(会話_|_投稿記録)_: Good
 4. [en+ja+enPunc]   Penn_Station(会話_|_投稿記録)  : Bad
 7. [ja only+enPunc] ペンステーション_(会話_|_投稿記録)_: Good
 8. [ja only+enPunc] ペンステーション(会話_|_投稿記録)  : Bad/Good
 9. [ja only+jaPunc] ペンステーション_(会話_|_投稿記録)_ : Bad
10. [ja only+jaPunc] ペンステーション(会話_|_投稿記録)   : Good

Case 1 - Current English Wikipedia
Case 4, 8  - Current Japanese Wikipedia
Case 3, 7  - Desired Japanese Wikipedia


BTW, Siebrand, I confirmed you had deleted MediaWiki:Pipe-separator/ja
Thanks for your help.

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[Bug 38300] no blank before/after (talk | contribs) in Japanese messages

2012-07-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38300

--- Comment #6 from Penn Station pennstation...@gmail.com 2012-07-11 19:30:59 
UTC ---
Sorry, I correct the case 10 as below.

10. [ja only+jaPunc] ペンステーション(会話|投稿記録) : Good

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