[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org ---
Another scope of this bug is to solve a problem in the software documentation
world.

DocBook is used for major products documentations (FreeBSD, PHP, OpenStack).
These documentations projects could benefit a lot of a wiki to update the
documentation.

A DocBook import/export isn't only useful for Wikisource, but for open source
projects willing to allow any contributor to edit the documentation without
edit a DocBook file, then a patch against the current documentation.

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[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

--- Comment #9 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
Could this project be started in the context of
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014 ?

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects

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[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org changed:

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[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

--- Comment #10 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #8)
 DocBook is used for major products documentations (FreeBSD, PHP, OpenStack).
 These documentations projects could benefit a lot of a wiki to update the
 documentation.

And to translate it with [[mw:Extension:Translate]] of course! We're sometimes
asked to host such projects on translatewiki.net, if they could use their own
wiki (maybe with a content model for each format?) Translate could be used
directly.

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[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

--- Comment #11 from Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org ---
There are maybe some telepathy involved Quim, I were writing the bug 61047 to
offer it as a GSoC project.

Nemo, er... could you discuss with SPQRobin and Romaine about the use of
Translate extension on the Wikimedia Belgium wiki? The first thinks it's
wonderful to translate full pages, the second thinks it's not intuitive at all 
for full pages (but likes it on meta. to translate interfaces elements) and
prefers /fr /nl pages.

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[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

--- Comment #12 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #11)
 Nemo, er... could you discuss with SPQRobin and Romaine about the use of
 Translate extension on the Wikimedia Belgium wiki?

I did many times and I think I'm more up to date than you on their problems
with it, from what you write. :) But it's offtopic here.

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[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2013-04-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
DocBook is important for many reasons. The smartest (big) publishers are
converting their traditional books to DocBook to have high-quality ebooks that
can be converted in any format may arise in the next decades; wikis like
userbase.kde.org convert their pages to DocBook format with some scripts for
later reuse.

The problem with this is that wiki pages are like a low quality energy, which
you convert to high quality energy i.e. DocBook with big losses and then
becomes whatever you need... not so effective. Probably doesn't make sense if
MediaWiki doesn't even have a concept of book in the first place; maybe
GorillaWarfare has ideas on this.

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[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2013-04-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

--- Comment #7 from Molly White molly.whi...@gmail.com ---
DocBook is different from wikitext/HTML/etc. because its tags mark what the
content is, not how it should be displayed. Instead of using, for example,
==Chapter== and h1Chapter/h1, it uses chapterChapter/chapter. Then the
formats to which it is later converted can decide how they want to display
chapter titles, if at all, without having to hope that every == or h1 denotes
the beginning of a chapter. Nemo's energy analogy is apt.

I do believe that DocBook should be added as an exportation format, although I
disagree that we need to wait for a book concept to be added. DocBook is no
more exclusive to books than it is to technical documentation; Wikipedia
articles can just as easily benefit from this format. That said, it might be
wise to wait until a better book representation is created before putting too
much effort into implementing this for Wikibooks/Wikisource.

I'll CC jeremyb on this -- he's discussed his interest in this becoming a
feature, and may have some further input.

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[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2013-04-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

--- Comment #4 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection exists and is enabled in
 some Wikimedia projects.

Collection doesn't really do this AFAIK: [[mw:Extension:XML_Bridge]] is
supposed to; but it's marked experimental and I've never seen it in use, so I
can't tell whether it's what requested here.

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[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2013-04-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed:

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 Resolution|FIXED   |---

--- Comment #5 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
True. Regardless of what http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection
says, when creating a collection in Wikibooks the option I got were PDF,
OpenDocument, openZIM and ePub. 

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Book

Reopening and sorry for the confusion.

Then again... why is DocBook important? The reporter proposes it as a gateway
to support PDF and other format with printing in mind. The Collections
extension has solved the problem and now anybody can print and even publish a
book with a few clicks.

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[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2013-04-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org ---
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection exists and is enabled in
some Wikimedia projects.

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[Bug 4073] Support exporting content in DocBook format

2012-11-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4073

Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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  Component|Export/Import   |Extensions requests
Product|MediaWiki   |MediaWiki extensions

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