[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41729

--- Comment #26 from Bartosz Dziewoński  ---
Final cleanup in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/84196/ .

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-04-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #25 from Gerrit Notification Bot  ---
Related URL: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61621 (Gerrit Change
I73fed7551e6ded38a24eb936ad015fe1e57d036d)

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bartosz Dziewoński  changed:

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   Keywords|patch-in-gerrit |

--- Comment #24 from Bartosz Dziewoński  ---
(In reply to comment #22)
> Okay, the relevant patch has been merged. 
> 
> Do we want to announce on relevant mailing lists and Village Pumps (...)
> 
> (I can help do this, but I'm deferring to Bartosz here, since it's his
> patch.)

Please feel free to announce it wherever appropriate, I'm not sure what's the
usual process. I suppose wikitech, -ambassadors and EdwardsBot? Anyway, thank
you :).

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #23 from Gerrit Notification Bot  ---
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49364 (Gerrit Change
I6a6c12a90de3604012420b20c1f520e0ece170ab) | change APPROVED and MERGED [by
jenkins-bot]

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Steven Walling  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #22 from Steven Walling  ---
Okay, the relevant patch has been merged. 

Do we want to announce on relevant mailing lists and Village Pumps with a link
to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Change_to_section_edit_links ?

(I can help do this, but I'm deferring to Bartosz here, since it's his patch.)

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41729

--- Comment #21 from Bartosz Dziewoński  ---
(This has been worked around in the changeset, FWIW.)

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-04-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41729

--- Comment #20 from Matthew Flaschen  ---
I believe all the complexity is an attempt to cache content while being able to
sub in UI language-specific stuff (namely the word 'edit').  It can still be
annoying, though.

I've updated the Gerrit with a proposed CSS hack.  To test:

1. Go to master
2. Purge a page.
3. Go back to this Gerrit.
4. Hard-refresh (e.g. Ctrl-Shift-R in Firefox), but don't purge.

Look at the DOM in Firebug.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-04-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #19 from Bartosz Dziewoński  ---
Argh, this is probably a parser cache issue; I commented more extensively on
the bug.

The parser sucks, damn.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-04-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #18 from Matthew Flaschen  ---
Created attachment 12184
  --> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=12184&action=edit
Screenshot on my local wiki of patch set 32, before purge

I just wanted to post a screenshot of what I got pre-purge on patch set 32, to
make sure it's a known issue (may be acceptable).  It includes the appearance
and the DOM.

The HTML is kind of in an in-between state, with mw-section (new class name),
but still before the headline.

It corrects on purge.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-03-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bartosz Dziewoński  changed:

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 Blocks||45051

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-03-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #17 from Waldir  ---
(In reply to comment #16)
> The patch (I6a6c12a9) is ready for reviewing, by the way.

Link, for convenience: I6a6c12a9

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-03-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bartosz Dziewoński  changed:

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 Depends on|43940   |

--- Comment #16 from Bartosz Dziewoński  ---
This doesn't depend on bug 43940, since my solution won't involve JavaScript
(or at least not the same one).

The patch (I6a6c12a9) is ready for reviewing, by the way.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-03-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bug 41729 depends on bug 45803, which changed state.

Bug 45803 Summary: Whitespace between == == headers should be insignificant
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45803

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-03-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bartosz Dziewoński  changed:

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-03-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)  changed:

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Steven Walling  ---
(In reply to comment #14)
> (In reply to comment #13)
> > Out of curiosity, have there been any tests with either no icons or simply a
> > more skin-friendly version?
> 
> I thought this is what Steven meant?
> 
> (In reply to comment #11)
> > FWIW, regardless of personal preference, the version with the icon and no
> > brackets was what was A/B tested by Trevor and co. back in the day, and 
> > which
> > proved to work better for users.
> 
> Or are you saying that the solution you're suggesting wasn't among the tested
> ones?

I mean precisely this:

* The version with icon etc. --
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Screenshot-SectionEditLinks-Vector.png --
was what was tested. Sticking with the successful version from your A/B test is
generally a good idea. 
* As an interim solution, it totally works for Vector (and probably other skins
too) to keep the same appearance but move the position of the link, as Bartosz
suggested. We probably won't see the same usability gains measured in the test,
but it's a lot better than doing nothing.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Nemo  ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> Out of curiosity, have there been any tests with either no icons or simply a
> more skin-friendly version?

I thought this is what Steven meant?

(In reply to comment #11)
> FWIW, regardless of personal preference, the version with the icon and no
> brackets was what was A/B tested by Trevor and co. back in the day, and which
> proved to work better for users.

Or are you saying that the solution you're suggesting wasn't among the tested
ones?

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Isarra  changed:

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--- Comment #13 from Isarra  ---
Out of curiosity, have there been any tests with either no icons or simply a
more skin-friendly version? Having more applicable successful results on hand
would probably help considerably for convincingly selling this change to other
projects, as while those such as plwp have had no trouble from it, that doesn't
exactly make a compelling reason for folks to accept the change (and not, as
for instance enwp folks are sometimes wont to do, just override it in
common.css).

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bartosz Dziewoński  changed:

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   Keywords||patch-in-gerrit

--- Comment #12 from Bartosz Dziewoński  ---
I submitted a draft at I6a6c12a9, noting the steps to make this work properly
in the commit message. I'm hoping to get this done by the end of the weekend.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Steven Walling  ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> Okay, so I'm going to work on this, then. Let's see if it works out.

Glad to see you're interested. :)

FWIW, regardless of personal preference, the version with the icon and no
brackets was what was A/B tested by Trevor and co. back in the day, and which
proved to work better for users. 

I do think that an acceptable interim solution is to simply move the current
appearance of the edit links, ala what's used in pl, fr, and other wikis. But
light of the previous testing results, and the fact icons + text are generally
more memorable by users in regardless of language, we should still consider
that approach.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bartosz Dziewoński  changed:

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 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
   Assignee|o...@wikimedia.org   |matma@gmail.com

--- Comment #10 from Bartosz Dziewoński  ---
Okay, so I'm going to work on this, then. Let's see if it works out.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Ori Livneh  changed:

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 Status|ASSIGNED|NEW

--- Comment #9 from Ori Livneh  ---
I keep intending to work on this but other things get in the way, so I'll
unassign it for now so as to not discourage anyone else from working on it.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bartosz Dziewoński  changed:

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 CC||matma@gmail.com

--- Comment #8 from Bartosz Dziewoński  ---
Do we actually want to use that look? It looks very out of place for me even on
Vector, and more so on other skins.

May I propose an alternative design? Such has feature been implemented and
enabled by default on pl.wikipedia for years. I've never heard any complaints.

Example page: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zręczyce

It keeps the links inside square brackets, but makes them slightly smaller and
places them next to the heading itself, like the experimental implementation
does. This will not be such a large design change as the experiment, while
keeping the discoverability improvements.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bartosz Dziewoński  changed:

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 Depends on||43940

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Waldir  changed:

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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James Forrester  changed:

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers)

2013-02-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo  changed:

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Summary|Tidy up and deploy Vector's |Tidy up and deploy Vector's
   |sectionEditLinks|sectionEditLinks (move
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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2013-02-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2013-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2013-01-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Ori Livneh  changed:

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2012-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Krinkle  ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> Do you think changing the section links should apply to only the Vector skin
> or
> to all skins?

The design is visually Vector-specific, so we don't have the data to apply it
to other skins right away.

The parser cache uses placeholders for TOC and editsectiolinks, which means
their html structure doesn't fragment the cache. So we can (and have to) do
this in the Skin-specific handling, not Parser or some other catch-all place.

But sure, other skins can (and do) style edit sections whatever way they want
to. Other skins can roll their own implementation of this if they want to
(which isn't all that complicated, it should only be a few lines of code).

This bug however is for Vector.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2012-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Krinkle  ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> @Krinkle, yeah I think it's obvious that was the majority consensus on
> Design-l. No one's pushing through the JS-dependent version in a hurry at the
> moment. Should probably just abandon the related patchset in lieu of the
> aforementioned implementation in core?

Yep, which is going to be an tough one to get right. It'll change a few dusty
parts in mediawiki core. Lots of attention and care need to go in this one to
make absolutely sure we cover the cases of stale caches and the different
levels thereof in mediawiki and wmf-config specifically.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2012-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from MZMcBride  ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> @Krinkle, yeah I think it's obvious that was the majority consensus on
> Design-l. No one's pushing through the JS-dependent version in a hurry at the
> moment. Should probably just abandon the related patchset in lieu of the
> aforementioned implementation in core?

Do you think changing the section links should apply to only the Vector skin or
to all skins?

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2012-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Steven Walling  ---
@Krinkle, yeah I think it's obvious that was the majority consensus on
Design-l. No one's pushing through the JS-dependent version in a hurry at the
moment. Should probably just abandon the related patchset in lieu of the
aforementioned implementation in core?

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2012-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41729

--- Comment #3 from Krinkle  ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> Anyway, as it's so hard to trigger the new look on testwiki (cookies and
> bucketing)and even then the edit link remains left-aligned, I have a patch
> that
> turns it on always, Gerrit change #32015.

We don't need to re-enable that experiment. We've seen it many times of the
last few years. Feel free to do the bucketing/cookie thing on a local wiki,
labs or on test wiki. But not by default.

This bug was filed against mediawiki core, with the design in mind to have 0
javascript involved. Experimental phase is over.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2012-11-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Steven Walling  2012-11-13 23:31:25 
UTC ---
Note that this was announced on Design-l. More community announcements
upcoming.

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2012-November/000204.html

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2012-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41729

Steven Walling  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Unprioritized   |Normal
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2012-11-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41729

sp...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||sp...@wikimedia.org

--- Comment #1 from sp...@wikimedia.org 2012-11-06 08:43:51 UTC ---
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Section_edit_modification sounds
equivocal; lots more clicks, but many didn't turn into edits.

Anyway, as it's so hard to trigger the new look on testwiki (cookies and
bucketing)and even then the edit link remains left-aligned, I have a patch that
turns it on always, gerrit #32015.  It still does the transformation in jQuery
instead of changing core edit links and Vector CSS.  See it on piramido.

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[Bug 41729] Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks

2012-11-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41729

Ori Livneh  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

URL||http://www.mediawiki.org/wi
   ||ki/Extension:Vector/Section
   ||EditLinks
 AssignedTo|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |o...@wikimedia.org
   |org |

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