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 Status|RESOLVED|VERIFIED

--- Comment #23 from Daniel Zahn  ---
Hi all, yes, this is unfortunate. I really did not delete any mail or thread
from the .mbox file to prevent exactly this. But i also need to use the tool
provided by mailman to rebuild the archives and rely on it. To me it all looked
good on the shell, no errors building or it or anything. There are 2 possible
reasons i can think of, one would be that there was another request to remove
something in the past or somebody had edited the .mbox file before but failed
to recreate archive .html , or it is just a mailman bug, maybe one that just
happens under specific circumstances. Sorry, but i tried and making any edit to
the archive always seems to have risks of breaking existing deep links to
specific messages.

And about RT: let me rephrase the "employee and signed NDA"-part to just
"signed NDA", since there are contractors and even volunteers with an NDA as i
learned.

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--- Comment #22 from Thehelpfulone  ---
Hmm, that's unfortunate especially as Daniel confirmed with me yesterday that
he hadnt deleted any messages. Do you think you would be able to find the email
where the previous link would work, i.e. where you don't have to +1 to the
previous  message number so we can find out which message is missing?

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--- Comment #21 from Tomasz W. Kozłowski  ---
Sorry, the current link for the last message is


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--- Comment #20 from Tomasz W. Kozłowski  ---
Hi THO,
actually I just checked the archives, and it looks like something got very
broken. The first link
()
doesn't lead to the message it led to when I created this bug (it's
).
 

I am also getting a 404 error for a link I am 100% sure worked in the past
;
it looks to me that all the message numbers were moved forward by 1 -- this
link, for example, now resides at
.

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--- Comment #19 from Thehelpfulone  ---
Thanks Tomasz, please can you confirm that the web archives otherwise look
okay, i.e. no missing messages or broken links? I did a check myself yesterday
and everything looked fine, but if you (as someone who is more active on the
list) could also check that would be great.

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--- Comment #18 from Tomasz W. Kozłowski  ---
Thank you for your work, Daniel; I reopened the archives again.

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 Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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   Assignee|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |dz...@wikimedia.org
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--- Comment #17 from Daniel Zahn  ---
I edited the .mbox file and replaced the address in several places with XX,
then i recreted the archive html pages from the mbox file using "arch" a binary
for that provided by mailman.

22:41 mutante: rebuilding archives of wikilovesmonuments list

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--- Comment #16 from Daniel Zahn  ---
done and pasted there. now back to this ticket: still need info what to remove
exactly please. I will just overwrite the complete name and address meanwhile.

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--- Comment #15 from Andre Klapper  ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> a) Why is Bugzilla there for, then, if we have to forward tickets via RT?
> Plus, not everyone has access to RT (I don't think I do);

Please please discuss this in bug 30413 instead, not here. Thanks.

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--- Comment #14 from Daniel Zahn  ---
If you are an employee who signed an NDA you can have RT accounts. No problem
at all. Please ask me to create them. And if you dont have a login to the web
UI you can still just mail or forward ops-requests@ to create one.

Yea, i am just going to replace the actual information with XXXes,, just tell
me what exactly needs to go.. i guess it is the street address..

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--- Comment #13 from Platonides  ---
Daniel, maybe if we had accounts in RT we could have done that.

The archives were made private just after sending, so the numbering shouldn't
change. Anyway, there's no need to remove the full emails. Perhaps it wasn't
clear in Comment 1, the problem was that an email sent forwarded in "Text Over,
Fullquote Under" (and then also included in other three replies...). The
Fullquote can be happily stripped.

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--- Comment #12 from Daniel Zahn  ---
Hi, so what exactly is the private information in there? The street address in
Spain?  Feel free to mail me details at 4...@rt.wikimedia.org . Discussing the
removal of private data on a public ticket may not be optimal (even though i
see you switched archives to private)

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--- Comment #11 from Tomasz W. Kozłowski  ---
a) Why is Bugzilla there for, then, if we have to forward tickets via RT? Plus,
not everyone has access to RT (I don't think I do);
b) Yes, we do know that, and we would appreciate if you do not delete any
e-mails but just edit them (hence the title);
c) Well, there is nothing anyone can do about it, sadly :-(

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--- Comment #10 from Casey Brown  ---
Re: b) -- I think inserting XXX's is what's wanted here. Removing the private
information and/or replacing it with XXX's sounds fine.

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--- Comment #9 from Daniel Zahn  ---
c) Yeah, if everybody would reconsider their quoting style on lists there would
be way less to edit :)  see TOFU quoting ...

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--- Comment #8 from Daniel Zahn  ---
a) request: please forward requests via RT, i did not see a ticket yet. i can
create it by myself but just mailing RT directly and it would have been done
already

b) you guys do realize that deleting mails and recreating archives would break
all deep links into archives because it changes the numbering of messages,
right? So i will NOT delete entire mails, only insert XXXes or something... can
do though..

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--- Comment #7 from Andre Klapper  ---
Sounds rather impossible to easily find out about process then if there's no
written and accessible communication... Well, I'll cross fingers.

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--- Comment #6 from Philippe Beaudette  ---
It was passed to CT, who assigned it to Daniel, I believe.

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--- Comment #5 from Andre Klapper  ---
Philippe: To who is this assigned? Is there an RT ticket or how was this
passed?

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--- Comment #4 from Philippe Beaudette  ---
I have passed the request on to Ops for action.

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--- Comment #3 from Platonides  ---
s/005463.html/005464.html/

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--- Comment #2 from Platonides  ---
There's also a fourth one. 005463.html, I guess.

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--- Comment #1 from Platonides  2012-12-04 17:18:26 UTC 
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The content appears at the mails included in the reply.

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