[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia. ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=59913 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|High|Normal CC||lvi...@wikimedia.org --- Comment #11 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- No good reasons for high priority here (fixing has no obvious urgency), plus proposing WONTFIX due to legal requirements. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX --- Comment #12 from Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org --- Thanks, André and MZ McBride. I concur with your recommendation to mark the but as wontfix, for all the reasons stated above. I have gone ahead and done that. Thanks again to everyone for your thoughtful observations on this issue! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net changed: What|Removed |Added CC||phili...@wikimedia.org --- Comment #4 from Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net --- CC'ing Philippe so that he can confirm with LCA if they really want to be named in the body of the e-mails. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 --- Comment #5 from Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org --- Thanks for bringing this up. The decision to include the WMF address in notification emails was made by Michelle Paulson in the Wikimedia Foundation's legal team. This address is required by law, and is consistent with best practices for this type of notifications. Please let us know if you have any further questions about this. Thank you! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||platoni...@gmail.com --- Comment #6 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com --- This is completely silly. Not even in OTRS we use the WMF address. And that text doesn't properly the fact that WMF operates the server, but has absolutely *nothing* to do with the content. Added by bsitu on 18 Dec 2012, in e4d435a5da8b51bf1988a8d242eb7eb0c4fa1d99. The commit message says nothing about any email regulation (“Configuration change for Echo extension”). Looks like someone simply thought it was a good idea. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 --- Comment #7 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com --- Fabrice, if you really want to keep the address, what about prepending it with This site is operated by [Wikimedia Foundation...] Even then, I'd expect some people misunderstanding it, taking it as coming from WMF. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 --- Comment #8 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to comment #5) The decision to include the WMF address in notification emails was made by Michelle Paulson in the Wikimedia Foundation's legal team. Did they also review/request the specific implementation/look of it? This address is required by law, and is consistent with best practices for this type of notifications. What best practices? I don't see anything like that in Google's or eBay's notifications. Twitter has a line but it's very hidden, at the end of a small-font footer after several lines of other meta information on how to unsubscribe etc. On the contrary, this footer is probably the most prominent part of the notification. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||b...@mzmcbride.com --- Comment #10 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com --- As I understand it, the [[CAN-SPAM Act of 2003]] requires that certain organizations include a physical mailing address in e-mails. From that article's Content compliance section: --- A legitimate physical address of the publisher and/or advertiser is present. PO Box addresses are acceptable in compliance with 16 C.F.R. § 316.2(p) and if the email is sent by a third party, the legitimate physical address of the entity, whose products or services are promoted through the email should be visible. --- Arguably that law only applies to commercial entities like Google and Facebook, but lawyers will be lawyers. :-) For what it's worth, every Facebook notification e-mail I receive has this footer or a close variant: --- View Conversation on Facebook · Reply to this email to message Some Sender. This message was sent to y...@example.com. If you don't want to receive these emails from Facebook in the future, please unsubscribe. Facebook, Inc., Attention: Department 415, PO Box 10005, Palo Alto, CA 94303 --- I rarely get e-mail from Google, but the most recent e-mail I received (something I opted in to, even) included this footer: --- copy; 2013 Google Inc., 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA. Privacy Policy | Terms of Service You are receiving this notification for every newly generated Google Account Activity Report. Change reminder settings --- Yes, even with the copy;. Silly Google. This bug may be a wontfix, unless the goal is to simply make the mailing address less obtrusive. Fabrice is right that using HTML e-mail will mitigate this annoyance heavily. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia. ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=46316 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 PleaseStand pleasest...@live.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||pleasest...@live.com --- Comment #1 from PleaseStand pleasest...@live.com --- From https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php : 'wmgEchoEmailFooterAddress' = array( 'default' = 'Wikimedia Foundation, 149 New Montgomery St., 3rd Fl., San Francisco, CA 94105.', ), This is parameter $1 in message 'echo-email-footer-default'. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||shell CC||benap...@gmail.com, ||dereck...@espace-win.org, ||wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. ||org, ||wikimedia.b...@snowolf.eu Component|Echo|Site requests Version|master |wmf-deployment Product|MediaWiki extensions|Wikimedia -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Unprioritized |High -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||p858sn...@gmail.com --- Comment #2 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #0) The WMF never wants to appear responsible of the users' messages and emails. I think the WMF might actually need to be here, due to some anti-spam requirements, You can always git blame the noc.local settings to see who added it and follow up with that user. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||s...@reedyboy.net -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 --- Comment #3 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to comment #2) I think the WMF might actually need to be here, due to some anti-spam requirements Anti-spam requirements? This is text in the email body... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 46315] Email notifications should not be signed with the WMF address
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46315 jeremyb bugzilla+org.wikime...@tuxmachine.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bugzilla+org.wikimedia@tuxm ||achine.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l