[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2014-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Jackmcbarn jackmcbarn+w...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47812

--- Comment #12 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 99434 had a related patch set uploaded by Scimonster:
Unblacklist group-user-css/js

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/99434

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 99434 merged by jenkins-bot:
Unblacklist group-specific JS/CSS for the user group

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/99434

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|PATCH_TO_REVIEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED
   Assignee|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |tehalmightyscimonster@gmail
   |org |.com
   Target Milestone|--- |1.23.0 release

--- Comment #14 from Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com ---
Done by Scimonster as a GCI task. Thanks!

I updated the documentation at [[mw:Manual:User group CSS and Javascript]].

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47812

--- Comment #5 from Happy-melon happy.melon.w...@gmail.com ---
 Obviously any such differentiation would have to be mindful of the fact that
 IPs can be editors too, but I think decisions about if/when message
 differentiation is appropriate is more a community issue than a technical
 one.

My reason for not originally implementing Group-user is basically a personal
philosophy, that I do not trust wiki communities (enwiki especially) to
*actually* remember the point above.  Logged in verses logged out is **not**
the same as readers verses editors, and as such, I felt (and still feel) that
this feature had *only* misuses, not legitimate uses.  If this was made
available as the only way of cleanly leveraging one of these distinctions, it
would be used as well this is the best we've got, but it's use would actually
be quite detrimental to the wiki's openness.

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Liangent liang...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Liangent liang...@gmail.com ---
*** Bug 57486 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47812

--- Comment #7 from Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #5)
 My reason for not originally implementing Group-user is basically a personal
 philosophy, that I do not trust wiki communities (enwiki especially) to
 *actually* remember the point above.  Logged in verses logged out is
 **not**
 the same as readers verses editors, and as such, I felt (and still feel)
 that
 this feature had *only* misuses, not legitimate uses.  If this was made
 available as the only way of cleanly leveraging one of these distinctions, it
 would be used as well this is the best we've got, but it's use would
 actually
 be quite detrimental to the wiki's openness.

Agreed, some people probably will misuse it. That said, I don't think we should
limit the software in a way like this. If you have a fishbowl wiki, the
distinction between readers and editors *is* whether you're logged in or not.

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Happy-melon happy.melon.w...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #7)

 Agreed, some people probably will misuse it. That said, I don't think we
 should limit the software in a way like this. 

Are you saying that because you believe that the potential for legitimate use
outweighs the potential for misuse in this instance, or because you think as a
general principle we should *never* not implement features because they have
the potential to be misused?  If so, I don't think that's a very realistic
position.  The damage to new editor recruitment that creating a UI distinction
between logged-in and logged-out would do is creeping and insidious (user makes
first tentative step towards editing, is suddenly attacked by a barrage of
weird new functionality; conversely reader does not see any of the invitations
to edit, so does not make first step).

If you have a fishbowl wiki, the
 distinction between readers and editors *is* whether you're logged in or not.

This has never been an issue that's particularly hard to work around; the main
benefit to having it done 'formally' is mainly proper caching via
ResourceLoader, and reduction of redundant code load.  Both of which are less
important on a fishbowl wiki, which will generally be smaller.

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Scimonster tehalmightyscimons...@gmail.com ---
I've taken up this task in the Code-in, and should have a working patch very
soon.

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org changed:

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 99434 had a related patch set uploaded by Scimonster:
Add group-user-css/js messages.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/99434

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #11 from Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com ---
One use-case I ran into myself is scripts which use custom preferences (see
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Options#Changing_options) – these can
sometimes only be reasonably ran for registered users.

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com changed:

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--- Comment #1 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
I think this is trivial; we already have Group-autoconfirmed.css.

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com changed:

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 Whiteboard||gci2013

--- Comment #2 from Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com ---
Pretty simple, code is at
https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/blob/master/includes/resourceloader/ResourceLoaderUserGroupsModule.php#L62

Will also need i18n messages.

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com changed:

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Tim Weyer wikime...@svg.name changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Tim Weyer wikime...@svg.name ---
I see a need in MediaWiki:Group-user.css/js since autoconfirmed is not granted
from the user's registration in some wikis.
I've tried to do some CSS for non-autoconfirmed but logged-in users in
MediaWiki.org and was just wondering about that behaviour.

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com changed:

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--- Comment #4 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
Copying Happy-melon on this bug in case he'd like to weigh in here (he authored
r82285).

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[Bug 47812] Create Mediawiki:Group-user.css to allow content differentiation for logged-in editors versus readers

2013-04-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Unprioritized   |Low
Version|unspecified |1.22-git

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