[Bug 65445] Media Viewer should display licensetpl_attr instead of author when set (by {{Credit line}} and other templates)

2014-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65445

--- Comment #18 from Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org ---
I've followed up at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Credit_line#Inconsistent_use_of_licensetpl_attr
regarding the separation of attribution and license information in {{credit
line}}.

Regarding working with the users of {{credit line}}, I've started a discussion
at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Credit_line#Improving_attribution_and_credit_lines
.

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[Bug 65445] Media Viewer should display licensetpl_attr instead of author when set (by {{Credit line}} and other templates)

2014-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65445

Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #16 from Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org ---
Adding Guillaume to dig further into this since he'll tackle the problems on
the template side of things as part of a file metadata cleanup drive.

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[Bug 65445] Media Viewer should display licensetpl_attr instead of author when set (by {{Credit line}} and other templates)

2014-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65445

--- Comment #17 from Jean-Fred jeanfrederic.w...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Erik Moeller from comment #15)
 I still remain skeptical how useful these custom bylines are (as opposed to
 just setting the author field), but if we want to support them, we probably
 have to support both -- per-file and per-license. Per-file is IMO much more
 useful, because it can be sanely applied across licenses requiring
 attribution. 
 
 Please chip in on the discussion for possible options to clean this up.
 Right now it's a mess and no third party re-user could be expected to make
 sense of it.

We don’t have to support it :). As I said earlier, the usage is widespread but
localised to only a few dozen users. 
http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/354

I suppose the point is to support their use case / workflow somehow, not the
template per se. Guillaume, could you help with that?

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[Bug 65445] Media Viewer should display licensetpl_attr instead of author when set (by {{Credit line}} and other templates)

2014-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65445

Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Media Viewer should display |Media Viewer should display
   |the Credit parameter when |licensetpl_attr instead of
   |available   |author when set (by
   ||{{Credit line}} and other
   ||templates)

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[Bug 65445] Media Viewer should display licensetpl_attr instead of author when set (by {{Credit line}} and other templates)

2014-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65445

--- Comment #15 from Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org ---
*sigh* It's actually a bit more complex, as currently explained on the talk
page.

At the file level, we have fileinfotpl_credit.

At the file level, {{Credit line}} also sets licensetpl_attr, although its
creator says it was intended to be used only in the scope of a specific
license, and our metadata parser indeed only interprets it in that scope. So
that's clearly broken.

At the license level, licensetpl_attr may or may not be set. Many dual-licensed
files only set it for one license and not the other -- even when both licenses
require attribution. So that's clearly broken, as well.

I still remain skeptical how useful these custom bylines are (as opposed to
just setting the author field), but if we want to support them, we probably
have to support both -- per-file and per-license. Per-file is IMO much more
useful, because it can be sanely applied across licenses requiring attribution. 

Please chip in on the discussion for possible options to clean this up. Right
now it's a mess and no third party re-user could be expected to make sense of
it.

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