[Bug 9738] Caching issues with inline queries (1.7.1)

2012-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9738

[[kgh]] mediaw...@kghoffmeyer.de changed:

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Summary|Caching issues with inline  |Caching issues with inline
   |queries |queries (1.7.1)

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[Bug 9738] Caching issues with inline queries

2011-11-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9738

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--- Comment #6 from pboy...@gmail.com 2011-11-11 16:12:36 UTC ---
Any update on this DF? This is a feature that I think is pretty desperately
needed. If you have an approach in mind could you detail it so that someone
with some spare cycles might take it on?

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[Bug 9738] Caching issues with inline queries

2009-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9738





--- Comment #5 from Neill Mitchell mitchell_ne...@hotmail.com  2009-12-03 
10:30:13 UTC ---
Hi.

Thanks a lot for your comments. The reason I mention SF is because I believe a
simple workaround could be placed into the SF save functionality to purge the
cache. The inline query would then pull the updated or new data. Most people
populate SMW using SF, so this seemed like an ideal solution.

Cheers
Neill.


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[Bug 9738] Caching issues with inline queries

2009-12-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9738





--- Comment #4 from Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org  2009-12-02 
21:42:20 UTC ---
We have discussed this issue at the SMW Camp in Karlsruhe: the outcome was that
it is probably doable, and that it is more or less clear how to approach the
issue, but that we currently do not have a developer to start this project
(because this is what it is -- you cannot solve this problem by some small
changes). This may change (we are actively trying to find a solution), but it
does not make sense to put it on any roadmap as long as we know that no one
will do it anyway.

I am still confused why Semantic Forms are mentioned here. We are not directly
involved in developing SF: if you want SF to change, then you need to post a
bug/feature request for this component. But as I said, I don't think that
caching should be a concern to SF since it is just as relevant when editing a
page without forms.

Also, I would like to stress that this is not a performance issue as such. The
performance problem you mention is caused by the workaround that you use, and
is not part of SMW. Turning off the cache will of course decrease performance,
but this is not something that SMW forces you to do. The problem of SMW is that
cached pages may be based on outdated information and are not updated
automatically. Yet we run many sites, some of which with quite critical
performance requirements (see e.g. http://www.aifb.kit.edu/), and we never turn
off the cache in such cases. I am not saying that it is generally acceptable to
have outdated pages in the cache, but it is certainly preferable to disabling
the cache in a performance-critical environment.


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[Bug 9738] Caching issues with inline queries

2009-12-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9738


Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org  2009-12-01 
15:12:20 UTC ---
*** Bug 21720 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***


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[Bug 9738] Caching issues with inline queries

2009-12-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9738





--- Comment #3 from Neill Mitchell mitchell_ne...@hotmail.com  2009-12-01 
16:27:35 UTC ---
Okay, so this issue was reported a long time ago. Is it going to make it onto
the roadmap?
Can the MW call in the MagicNoCache extension not easily be added to the Form
save?

I have a feeling this is being sidelined because it is perceived as difficult.
I can't stress enough how important this is. SMW has got to a stage where it is
an fantastically valuable and useful tool. The functionality has got to an
amazing level. Perhaps performance should now be on the agenda? 


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