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Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata Digest, Vol 65, Issue 16

2017-04-18 Thread Nar Sharma

t;> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hoi,
> >>>> Much of the content of DBpedia and Wikidata have the same origin;
> >>>> harvesting data from a Wikipedia.  There is a lot of discussion going
> on
> >>>> about quality and one point that I make is that comparing "Sources"
> and
> >>>> concentrating on the differences particularly where statements differ
> is
> >>>> where it is easiest to make a quality difference.
> >>>>
> >>>> So given that DBpedia harvests both Wikipedia and Wikidata, can it
> >>>> provide us with a view where a Wikipedia statement and a Wikidata
> statement
> >>>> differ. To make it useful, it is important to subset this data. I
> will not
> >>>> start with 500.000 differences but I will begin when they are about a
> >>>> subset that I care about.
> >>>>
> >>>> When I care about entries for alumni of a university, I will consider
> >>>> curating the information in question. Particularly when I know the
> language
> >>>> of the Wikipedia.
> >>>>
> >>>> When we can do this, another thing that will promote the use of a tool
> >>>> like this is when regularly (say once a month) numbers are stored and
> >>>> trends are published.
> >>>>
> >>>> How difficult is it to come up with something like this. I know this
> >>>> tool would be based on DBpedia but there are several reasons why this
> is
> >>>> good. First it gives added relevance to DBpedia (without detracting
> from
> >>>> Wikidata) and secondly as DBpedia updates on RSS changes for several
> >>>> Wikipedias, the effect of these changes is quickly noticed when a new
> set
> >>>> of data is requested.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let us know what the issues are and what it takes to move
> >>>> forward with this, Does this make sense?
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>GerardM
> >>>>
> >>>> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2017/03/quality-dbpedia-a
> >>>> nd-kappa-alpha-psi.html
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> Subject: [Wikidata] Weekly Summary #256
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> *Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over
> the last week.*
>
> Events <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events>/
> Press/Blogs
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Press_coverage>
>
>- Wikidata workshop in Paris
><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Events/Paris>, Friday, April
>21st, about external tools
>- "Wikidata pour la science"
><https://www.meetup.com/SemanticCampParis/events/238404211> training
> day
>in Paris, April 24th
>- Heritage in Flanders and Crowd-Sourced Projects
><http://www.osm.be/2017/04/01/en-project-heritage-crowd-sourced.html> -
>featuring Wikidata, Wikipedia and OpenStreetMap
>- The ACS Spring disclosures of 2017 #1
><http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.nl/2017/04/the-acs-spring-
> disclosures-of-2017-1.html>
>- about news drug compounds entering Wikidata
>
> Other Noteworthy Stuff
>
>- *Attention:* Editing will be disabled during parts of A

Re: [Wikidata] Subst for Template:Wikidata on a Wikipedia

2017-04-18 Thread Pharos

Jeremyb helped me to fix the {{wikidata}} template, to make it subst-able:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikidata&diff=774791062&oldid=759725989

(The {{#invoke}} on my sandbox had been produced by subst-ing the old
version of {{wikidata}}.)

Thanks,
Pharos

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Lucas Werkmeister <
m...@lucaswerkmeister.de> wrote:

> Hi Pharos,
>
> I tried this on my own sandbox [1], and the subst seems to work without a
> problem. I’m not sure what’s in your own sandbox – the big red error in the
> revision you linked to seems to be caused by something different (the
> {{#invoke}} at the bottom), not the substituted Wikidata template.
>
> I realize this reply is a bit late – is there still a problem, or did this
> get cleared up in some other way in the meantime? :)
>
> Cheers,
> Lucas
>
> [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ALucas_
> Werkmeister_%28WMDE%29%2Fsandbox&type=revision&diff=
> 776029766&oldid=776029748
>
> On 05.04.2017 02:41, Pharos wrote:
>
> Hi Wikidata-niks,
>
> I'm trying to subst using Template:Wikidata on Wikipedia:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Pharos/
> sandbox&oldid=773859189
>
> I'd like to put something like {{subst:wikidata|title|Q42}} in the edit
> box, click save, and then have "Douglas Adams" saved, like how subst works
> for other templates.
>
> Where have I gone wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Pharos
>
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Re: [Wikidata] Subst for Template:Wikidata on a Wikipedia

2017-04-18 Thread Lucas Werkmeister

Hi Pharos,

I tried this on my own sandbox [1], and the subst seems to work without
a problem. I’m not sure what’s in your own sandbox – the big red error
in the revision you linked to seems to be caused by something different
(the {{#invoke}} at the bottom), not the substituted Wikidata template.

I realize this reply is a bit late – is there still a problem, or did
this get cleared up in some other way in the meantime? :)

Cheers,
Lucas

[1]:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ALucas_Werkmeister_%28WMDE%29%2Fsandbox&type=revision&diff=776029766&oldid=776029748

On 05.04.2017 02:41, Pharos wrote:
> Hi Wikidata-niks,
>
> I'm trying to subst using Template:Wikidata on Wikipedia:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Pharos/sandbox&oldid=773859189
>
> I'd like to put something like {{subst:wikidata|title|Q42}} in the
> edit box, click save, and then have "Douglas Adams" saved, like how
> subst works for other templates.
>
> Where have I gone wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Pharos
>
>
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Re: [Wikidata] Weekly Summary #256

2017-04-18 Thread Jane Darnell

Thanks Lea! Interesting roundup of paintings in that top-500 paintings
query, and of course many I recognize from the Europeana challenge. I am
also assuming that the popularity of the Mona LIsa at its lonely spot at
the top of the list has to do with its early entrance as a "featured item
on Wikidata". The real question is how to query the top-500 paintings used
most often on Wikipedia? I think this will be somewhat different than the
paintings that are chosen by Wikipedians to be the subjects of articles,
which are by definition "written about the painting for the painting's
sake" as opposed to "illustrating a concept with an image of a painting".
If i had to guess, my assumption would be that the most used painting would
be a portrait of some long-dead person with an article in many many
languages. On the other hand, it could also be a painting of a ship or a
romanticized painting of a battle scene. Hopefully there will be a way to
make those types of queries soon!
Jane

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Léa Lacroix 
wrote:

> *Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata
> over the last week.*
>
> Events /
> Press/Blogs
> 
>
>- Wikidata workshop in Paris
>, Friday, April
>21st, about external tools
>- "Wikidata pour la science"
> training
>day in Paris, April 24th
>- Heritage in Flanders and Crowd-Sourced Projects
>
>- featuring Wikidata, Wikipedia and OpenStreetMap
>- The ACS Spring disclosures of 2017 #1
>
> 
>- about news drug compounds entering Wikidata
>
> Other Noteworthy Stuff
>
>- *Attention:* Editing will be disabled during parts of April 19 and
>May 3, to allow a server switch
>
>- Wikidata description editing in the Wikipedia Android app
>
> 
>to be deployed on several Wikipedias
>- More federated endpoints have been added
>
> 
>(DBpedia, INSEE, UK Office for National Statistics...)
>- All UNESCO sites in Wikishootme
>
> 
>- You can now cheat Stadt Fluss Land game
> with a query
>
> 
> ;)
>- To be deployed on Monday, April 24th: new datatype for geoshapes
>
> 
>and Cognate on Wiktionaries
>
> 
>
> Did you know?
>
>- Newest properties
>: type of
>reference , suicide rate
>, Italian Navy
>Lighthouses and Beacons ID
>, MyDramaList name ID
>, iTunes app ID
>, Wormbase Gene ID
>, Environment

Re: [Wikidata] Comparisons between DBpedia and Wikidata

2017-04-18 Thread Kingsley Idehen

On 4/18/17 5:04 AM, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote:
> Hi, a few clarifications from my side
> A more up-to-date link for the data is
> here: https://gist.github.com/jimkont/01f6add8527939c39192bcb3f840eca0
> 
> and this dump was not generated with federated queries, as this was
> not possible at the time of creation but with a simple script
>
> it is meant only as a proof-of-concept project that showcases
> differences in birthdates between Wikidata, Dutch Wikipedia and Greek
> Wikipedia as extracted in the DBpedia 2016-04 release, (which also
> means that it is based on ~1y old data)
>
> Best,
> Dimitris

Dimitris,

Here are links to SPARQL-FED queries that hit both DBpedia and Wikidata
endpoints. Basically, you have a federated query over 3 SPARQL Endpoints.


[1] https://tinyurl.com/mdkgg7h -- SPARQL-FED Results Page

[2]
https://medium.com/virtuoso-blog/on-the-mutually-beneficial-nature-of-dbpedia-and-wikidata-5fb2b9f22ada
 
-- Post about both projects using variant of SPARQL-FED example above.


Kingsley
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> mailto:gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> With the recent introduction of federation for DBpedia, it is
> possible to have queries for the DBpedias for a specific language
> and Wikidata. I have blogged how we can make use for this [1].
>
> It makes it much easier to compare Wikidata and DBpedia and when
> we take this serious and apply some effort we can make a tool like
> the one by Pasleim [2] for Wikipedias that do not have a category
> for people who died in a given year.
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> [1] 
> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2017/04/wikidata-user-story-dbpedia-death-and.html
> 
> 
> [2] http://tools.wmflabs.org/pltools/recentdeaths/
> 
>
>
>
>
> On 1 April 2017 at 11:34, Gerard Meijssen
> mailto:gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> I was asked by one of the DBpedia people to write a project
> plan.. I gave it a try [1].
>
> The idea is to first compare DBpedia with Wikidata where a
> comparison is possible. When it is not (differences in their
> classes for instance) it is at first not what we focus on.
>
> Please comment on the talk page and when there are things
> missing in the plan, please help it improve.
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
>
>
> [1]
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:GerardM/DBpedia_for_Quality
> 
>
>
> On 1 April 2017 at 10:44, Reem Al-Kashif
> mailto:reemalkas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I don't have an idea about how to develop this, but it
> seems like an interesting project!
>
> Best,
> Reem
>
> On 30 Mar 2017 10:17, "Gerard Meijssen"
>  > wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> Much of the content of DBpedia and Wikidata have the
> same origin; harvesting data from a Wikipedia.  There
> is a lot of discussion going on about quality and one
> point that I make is that comparing "Sources" and
> concentrating on the differences particularly where
> statements differ is where it is easiest to make a
> quality difference.
>
> So given that DBpedia harvests both Wikipedia and
> Wikidata, can it provide us with a view where a
> Wikipedia statement and a Wikidata statement differ.
> To make it useful, it is important to subset this
> data. I will not start with 500.000 differences but I
> will begin when they are about a subset that I care
> about.
>
> When I care about entries for alumni of a university,
> I will consider curating the information in question.
> Particularly when I know the language of the Wikipedia.
>
> When we can do this, another thing that will promote
> the use of a tool like this is when regularly (say
> once a month) numbers are stored and trends are published.
>
> How difficult is it to come up with something like
> this. I know this tool would be based on DBpedia but
> there are several reasons why this is good. First it
> gives added relevance to DBpedia (without detracting
> from Wikidata) and secondly as DBpedia updates on RSS
> changes for several Wikipedias, the effect of these
>

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[Wikidata] Weekly Summary #256

2017-04-18 Thread Léa Lacroix

*Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over
the last week.*

Events /
Press/Blogs


   - Wikidata workshop in Paris
   , Friday, April
   21st, about external tools
   - "Wikidata pour la science"
    training day
   in Paris, April 24th
   - Heritage in Flanders and Crowd-Sourced Projects
    -
   featuring Wikidata, Wikipedia and OpenStreetMap
   - The ACS Spring disclosures of 2017 #1
   

   - about news drug compounds entering Wikidata

Other Noteworthy Stuff

   - *Attention:* Editing will be disabled during parts of April 19 and May
   3, to allow a server switch
   
   - Wikidata description editing in the Wikipedia Android app
   

   to be deployed on several Wikipedias
   - More federated endpoints have been added
   

   (DBpedia, INSEE, UK Office for National Statistics...)
   - All UNESCO sites in Wikishootme
   

   - You can now cheat Stadt Fluss Land game
    with a query
   

;)
   - To be deployed on Monday, April 24th: new datatype for geoshapes
   

   and Cognate on Wiktionaries
   


Did you know?

   - Newest properties
   : type of reference
   , suicide rate
   , Italian Navy Lighthouses
   and Beacons ID , MyDramaList
   name ID , iTunes app ID
   , Wormbase Gene ID
   , Environment Ontology ID
   , route diagram
   , cinenacional.com person
   ID , Quebec municipalities
   geographical code ,
LombardiaBeniCulturali
   artwork ID , Soundtrack
   Collector ID , Rat Genome
   Database ID , FlyBase Gene
   ID , cinenacional.com
   movie ID ,
LombardiaBeniCulturali
   toponym ID ,
LombardiaBeniCulturali
   institution ID , Irish
   Rugby Football Union ID , Open
   Library subject ID , DBC
   author ID 
   - Query examples:
  - The 500 most important paintings, according to Wikidata siteli

Re: [Wikidata] Comparisons between DBpedia and Wikidata

2017-04-18 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas

Hi, a few clarifications from my side
A more up-to-date link for the data is here: https://gist.github.com/
jimkont/01f6add8527939c39192bcb3f840eca0
and this dump was not generated with federated queries, as this was not
possible at the time of creation but with a simple script

it is meant only as a proof-of-concept project that showcases differences
in birthdates between Wikidata, Dutch Wikipedia and Greek Wikipedia as
extracted in the DBpedia 2016-04 release, (which also means that it is
based on ~1y old data)

Best,
Dimitris


On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> With the recent introduction of federation for DBpedia, it is possible to
> have queries for the DBpedias for a specific language and Wikidata. I have
> blogged how we can make use for this [1].
>
> It makes it much easier to compare Wikidata and DBpedia and when we take
> this serious and apply some effort we can make a tool like the one by
> Pasleim [2] for Wikipedias that do not have a category for people who died
> in a given year.
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> [1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2017/04/wikidata-user
> -story-dbpedia-death-and.html
> [2] http://tools.wmflabs.org/pltools/recentdeaths/
>
>
>
>
> On 1 April 2017 at 11:34, Gerard Meijssen 
> wrote:
>
>> Hoi,
>> I was asked by one of the DBpedia people to write a project plan.. I gave
>> it a try [1].
>>
>> The idea is to first compare DBpedia with Wikidata where a comparison is
>> possible. When it is not (differences in their classes for instance) it is
>> at first not what we focus on.
>>
>> Please comment on the talk page and when there are things missing in the
>> plan, please help it improve.
>> Thanks,
>>  GerardM
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:GerardM/DBpedia_for_Quality
>>
>>
>> On 1 April 2017 at 10:44, Reem Al-Kashif  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I don't have an idea about how to develop this, but it seems like an
>>> interesting project!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Reem
>>>
>>> On 30 Mar 2017 10:17, "Gerard Meijssen" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hoi,
 Much of the content of DBpedia and Wikidata have the same origin;
 harvesting data from a Wikipedia.  There is a lot of discussion going on
 about quality and one point that I make is that comparing "Sources" and
 concentrating on the differences particularly where statements differ is
 where it is easiest to make a quality difference.

 So given that DBpedia harvests both Wikipedia and Wikidata, can it
 provide us with a view where a Wikipedia statement and a Wikidata statement
 differ. To make it useful, it is important to subset this data. I will not
 start with 500.000 differences but I will begin when they are about a
 subset that I care about.

 When I care about entries for alumni of a university, I will consider
 curating the information in question. Particularly when I know the language
 of the Wikipedia.

 When we can do this, another thing that will promote the use of a tool
 like this is when regularly (say once a month) numbers are stored and
 trends are published.

 How difficult is it to come up with something like this. I know this
 tool would be based on DBpedia but there are several reasons why this is
 good. First it gives added relevance to DBpedia (without detracting from
 Wikidata) and secondly as DBpedia updates on RSS changes for several
 Wikipedias, the effect of these changes is quickly noticed when a new set
 of data is requested.

 Please let us know what the issues are and what it takes to move
 forward with this, Does this make sense?
 Thanks,
GerardM

 http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2017/03/quality-dbpedia-a
 nd-kappa-alpha-psi.html

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