[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T308657: Define placement of sitelink item search in Vector 2022 skin

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  I looked into this to find out what this function does. Here is what I 
currently assume:
  
  - It uses the same API as https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle 
which searched by the title that the Article for an item has on //another 
Wiki//.
  - that //other wiki// is Wikipedia in the language in which the user views 
the Wikidata interface: If you view it e.g. in German, it uses dewiki and uses 
the titles of German Wikipedia articles to link you to their corresponding 
Wikidata items.  (…so there is some indirection (Other Wikipedia as title 
source, implicit Wikipedia selection via Wikidata interface setting) involved 
to understand it.)
  
  - I do not know why users prefer this search, but I assume it can be more 
predictable than the "normal" search, since it only considers titles (but 
titles of a specific //Wikipedia//). It also might be useful for people 
switching between "their" Wikipedia and Wikidata (as they can transfer 
familiarity from their Wikipedia to Wikidata).
  - The description on the gadget page is "search form to find an item directly 
by its sitelink", which I found a bit irritating, since one item can have many 
sitelinks.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T282563: User Retention Wikidata: A model for "participating since" patterns in the 2021 Wikidata Community Survey

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  sure sure, go ahead :)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T282563: User Retention Wikidata: A model for "participating since" patterns in the 2021 Wikidata Community Survey

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  What about:
  
  **Proposal title:** Wikidata user retention over time?
  **Session type:** Lightning or short, I guess?
  **Abstract:** People leave online communities after some time. However, the 
likelyhood that a particular user leaves the project is dependent on the time 
they have been on the project already: People who have only spend a brief time 
in the project are more likely to leave than people who are long-term members. 
This is similar to the so-called "Lindy Effect". We modeled the curve for the 
likelihood of leaving the project depending on the time of past participation 
and will present methods, outcomes and practical relevance. 
  **Notes:** We would show some slides
  **Session Image:** Maybe the diagram in from the original issue?

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  Thanks, super interesting! Some things are beyond my data-skills, thus, I 
look forward to feedback from other people!

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  Seems also relevant: 
https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/140352/1/evolution-wikidata-editors.pdf "The 
evolution of power and standard Wikidata editors: comparing editing behavior 
over time to predict lifespan and volume of edits"

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T282563: User Retention Wikidata: A model for "participating since" patterns in the 2021 Wikidata Community Survey

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  From: "How Long Do Wikipedia Editors Keep Active?"
  
  > …specifically,  we  consider  an  editor  to  be“dead” or inactive if he 
did not make any edit for a certain period of time.  Here we set the threshold 
of inactivity to be5 months, since it reflects WMF’s concern as demonstrated in 
the recent Wikipedia Participation Challenge
  
  Not sure if that is ideal, but it is certainly more simple.

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  Some new pointers (via @MGerlach ):
  
  - Understanding Editor Drop-off 
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Eurecat/Community_Health_Metrics:_Understanding_Editor_Drop-off>
  - How long do Wikipedia Editors Keep Active 
<https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/2462932.2462938>

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  > I am beginning to think that we might need to readjust the definition of 
when we consider the editor to has left Wikidata as I have proposed it. What do 
you think? Any ideas?
  
  Would probably make sense to adjust it, but I have currently no good idea 
how. I'll keep thinking.

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  >> Also, I have a vague and anecdotal memory that Wikidata has a lot of users 
who are semi- or fully-automated bots but are not registered as such. Is this 
the case? If so, is there some other heuristic like overly rapid editing that 
we can use to filter out these users or analyze them separately?
  
  
  
  > It is easier said than done but I also have a vague memory that once I did 
something similar for the purposes of some analysis. Let me think for a while 
and try to remember what exactly was done to account for such 
semi-human-semi-bot editors.
  
  Good point, I guess @Manuel has also some ideas on this.

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Operationalization:
  
  - A user is active when they edited 5 times within a month
  - The time of a user being active is their "streak" of subsequent months in 
which they are active
  - We consider a user has left the project if they stop editing and never so 
far have become an active editor (+5 edits/month) again

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275998: score/scoring explanation

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  So, as I learned from a team member the WMF has put up their modal design 
<https://design.wikimedia.org/style-guide/components/dialogs.html>. They use a 
right-upper corner x.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275998: score/scoring explanation

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  Here is the text from the mockup above:
  
  "The Item Quality Evaluator retrieves a quality score for each requested item 
and also calculates the avarage score of all items requested.
  
  > What does the score measure?*
  > The score estimates the quality of the Wikidata item. It can not estimate 
if the content should be included on Wikidata or if what the item is about is 
“good”: The item “famine” (Q168247) can have a high score if it has references 
and delivers complete information, while “Kitten” (Q147) can score low if it 
lacks references and statements.
  >
  > *How is the score calculated*
  > We trained the ORES Algorithm by giving it items that we scored to belong 
in one of 5 quality categories. Now, if the algorithm is given an item, it 
estimates the the likelyhood that a given item falls in each of the 5 possible 
quality categories. To get one score for an item, we (how does weighting 
work?). The average score for the whole item we present is the mean of these 
scores.
  
  However,
  
  > *Where can I find more information?*
  > This tool is documented at [somewikilink]. Its source code is on [platform].
  > If you want to know more about [ORES] read [wikilink]
  
  Obviously needs still the right links

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275316: Start with a SPARQL query instead of a list of Item IDs

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  It is relevant that the "Assess Quality"-button is in the "box" that also 
contains the items or SPARQL, respectively; otherwise we might suggest, 
UI-wise, that the button is bound to all inputs not just what is in the 
currently activated tab.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275316: Start with a SPARQL query instead of a list of Item IDs

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275998: score/scoring explanation

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  There is no x to keep it easy to use (aka hit with your fingers and find it 
at an expectable position)  on mobile. I could try to find out what Wikit is 
doing with popups and if they change between mobile and desktop and suggest a 
matching behavior here.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270109: Hoover Inequality Score Data Retrival and Calculation

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  Looks fine to me!
  
  Am So., 14. März 2021 um 14:54 Uhr schrieb GoranSMilovanovic <
  no-re...@phabricator.wikimedia.org>:
  
  > GoranSMilovanovic added a comment. View Task
  > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T270109
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  > @WMDE-leszek https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/WMDE-leszek/
  >
  > Please help me clear my backlog a bit: this analytics dashboard, for
  > example, needs a review before I productionize it.
  > Thank you.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270109: Hoover Inequality Score Data Retrival and Calculation

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  > Plotly already provides for that: if a user zooms in the diagram, an 
overlay message should pop up …
  
  Ahh, OK, works for me, too. Not great UX, I think, but if it is build-in that 
way lets keep it as it is.
  
  > It is the current calendar year
  
  OK, that is equally fine, I just was unsure what it means
  
  >> current_year → over last 12 month
  >
  > It is the current calendar year
  
  Then my label suggestion is staying with //this year//

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270109: Hoover Inequality Score Data Retrival and Calculation

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  - If it is possible to give "human" labels to the variables, and //if// I 
understand them right it might be useful to do the following
- current_year → over last 12 month
- current_snapshot → over last month
- history_to_current_snapshot → all time
  - For the diagram it would be great to have a reset button somewhere in case 
one creates a mess by zooming in or panning away from the graph. Hope that is 
just a config option.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270109: Hoover Inequality Score Data Retrival and Calculation

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  One variable I did not ask for: `current_year` – is this from beginning of 
the calendar year to the current snapshot or from the snapshot 12 months ago 
until the current snapshot?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275995: expand result list by default

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  This would look like this:
  
  F34133820: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34133820>

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275991: Add Wikidata logo

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  Is there some (implicit) standard where the logo should be? 
  Currently is it as big as on Wikidata itself, on the right side and linked to 
Wikidata. So currently is has undue weight.
  
  F34133713: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34133713>
  
  I personally would probably put it in the footer. If branding guidelines 
allow we could also put it in front of the headline (Which nicely doubles as 
"[Wikidata] Itemset…"
  
  F34133720: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34133720>
  
  But I would not link Wikdata.org then, as logo in left upper corner is 
usually "back to homepage" as a reset when lost in navigation (The current logo 
has this too, but, as it is on the right, it is less of a problem)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275313: Download results as CSV for further processing

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  I am generally fine with not providing them //but// afaic we make at least 
two mathematically dubious steps so I would have the tendency to be 
transparent. We could also explain how the score is created  in the help file, 
though.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275629: Ensure the user that the app did not crash while data is retrieved

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  Discussion about error messages to T276236 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T276236>

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T276236: meaningful error messages in case of API- or Parsing-Problems

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Need: As an user, I want to be informed when there is a problem and be able 
to solve it, if needed. 
<https://www.nngroup.com/articles/ten-usability-heuristics/#articleBody:~:text=Error%20messages%20should%20be%20expressed%20in,problem%2C%20and%20constructively%20suggest%20a%20solution.>
  
  **Problem:**  When the user clicks the button to "assess item quality" the 
data is requested from the API, which might return an error
  
  **Suggested messages:**
  
  In case the API can’t be reached: "There was a problem connecting to the 
service. Please check your internet connection or try again later"
  
  In case the result can’t be parsed: "There was a problem parsing the results 
from the APIs. This is probably a problem with our code. If you know how, 
report the issue at [link]"

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275629: Ensure the user that the app did not crash while data is retrieved

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  Can we distinguish the problems? Cause then we could have:
  
  "There was a problem connecting to the service. Please check your internet 
connection or try again later"
  
  "There was a problem parsing the results from the APIs. This is probably a 
problem with our code. If you know how, report the issue at [link]"

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275998: score/scoring explanation

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  I considered the flyout, but it turns out to be harder to integrate in 
existing layouts, so I went ahead with a popup.
  
  F34131660: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34131660>
  
  It would be called from the link in the header on both pages.
  The page is not scrollable when it is open; the popups position is fixed. 
Thus, the popup has a scrollbar. 
  It closes again when clicking on the "Back to…"  on top, or, on desktop, when 
users click on the darkened areas around it.
  
  The popup is opened from a link in the header on both of our views
  
  F34131657: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34131657>

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275629: Ensure the user that the app did not crash while data is retrieved

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  Isn’t the most likely reason for an error that the WiFi is flaky?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275993: access to further info about the tool itself

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  Where should the links go? Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. 
<https://www.wikimedia.de>, [[ https://github.com/wmde/wikidata-quality-monitor 
|  Github project  ]]and github issues 
<https://github.com/wmde/wikidata-quality-monitor/issues>?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275993: access to further info about the tool itself

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further info about the tool itself".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275995: expand result list by default

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  If our primary target group is editors, then we could just show the whole 
table directly and I put all relevant information and action above the table so 
nothing is pushed into invisibility.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275998: score/scoring explanation

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  We could have a "How is this score calculated" flyout and put all info about 
ORES, difference between the things items refer to and the content of the items 
themselves etc. inside there.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275629: Ensure the user that the app did not crash while data is retrieved

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  Lets split the "other developers should be able to report problems" in a 
separate ticket; as we should do with "have a error message that provides 
helpful guidance to problem solving (for non-developers)"

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  > This may be problematic for users who don't have Github but would like to 
get your thoughts anyway.
  
  Yes, I think for non-developers (which, I think are the tool’s target group) 
this is not very helpful (thought I am not against having the possibility 
somewhere were it is not drawing attention for the main target group)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275998: score/scoring explanation

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  Currently we have
  F34127888: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34127888>
  
  If this is not sufficient, I can suggest additional text. However, I assume 
that explaining this will take more than just one line, so it will withdraw 
focus and attention from other relevant elements in the UI.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275629: Ensure the user that the app did not crash while data is retrieved

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  > Not yet. I think we should solve this with T275993 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275993>.
  
  It would make sense to provide some way forward in the error message. I don't 
know what causes such errors typically. It might be helpful if we add "please 
try again later" or "have a look at [LINK]" (Based on #9 of the Nielsen 
Interface Heuristics 
<https://www.nngroup.com/articles/ten-usability-heuristics/#articleBody:~:text=precisely%20indicate%20the%20problem%2C%20and%20constructively%20suggest%20a%20solution.>)

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  That makes sense.
  
  @Lydia_Pintscher is there a place where we can people link to to find out 
what happened and when it will be back online?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275313: Download results as CSV for further processing

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275313: Download results as CSV for further processing

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  Ideally, the table would give the item label, item QId, weighted ORES Score 
and the ORES-probabilities for a score of 1,2,3,4,5:
  
  | Item label   | Item QID | Weighted ORES Score | Probabilty 1 | Probability 
2 | Probability 3 | Probability 4 | Probability 5 |
  |  |  | --- |  | 
- | - | - | - |
  | Awesome item | Q1234| 4.75| 0| 0.01 
 | 0.02  | 0.1   | 0.85  |
  |

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275312: error handling: no score can be retrieved

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275315: error handling: allow only Item IDs

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  Suggestion: ADD:  an error is shown when providing anything but an Item ID. 
There is an error pointing out each of the offending inputs, rather than only 
the first one. (at least up to, lets say, 10 Errors or so)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275315: error handling: allow only Item IDs

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  Depending on the "cost" of queries and checking we might either show the 
evaluation results on the input page (1) or on the results page (2)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275311: Make the result actionable

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  Suggestion: DELETE "a call to action exists that asks the editor to improve 
the worst Items"
  Suggestion: ADD "The table is inserted in the page as-it-is, meaning rather 
than the table having a scrollbar, the page grown in length.  (This is less 
sensitive to design changes in the future)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275311: Make the result actionable

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  As suggested in the meeting, I would not provide a separate text or so for 
it, but go by a "show-don’t-tell"-approach that makes the actual improvement of 
the times easy by linking them in the table and enabling to sort the table 
easily.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275307: Put the result in context

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275306: Calculate the average score for all Items

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275305: Get the quality score for several Items

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275302: intro to the tool

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275304: Get score for one Item

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275304: Get score for one Item

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  > If I understand it correctly, we will not build an interface getting the 
score specifically for one item, thus I wouldn’t/couldn’t not provide a mockup.
  > In this case the BBD criteria would need to be adjusted to work abstractly 
without UI.
  
  Resolved as dev invents their intermediate UIs to always have a working slice.

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  If I understand it correctly, we will not build an interface getting the 
score specifically for one item, thus I wouldn’t/couldn’t not provide a mockup.
  In this case the BBD criteria would need to be adjusted to work abstractly 
without UI.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270109: Hoover Inequality Score Data Retrival and Calculation

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  Thanks! 
  Just to understand it correctly – what do the 3 values refer to, 
particularly, are they from beginning of time until some point ("wealth") or 
for a specific timeframe ("income")?

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  > The dashboard for this can be produced in a minimal time. It will be 
included to our Wikidata Analytics portal, under "Analytics", if you agree.
  
  Would make sense to me; I guess the final decision is with @Lydia_Pintscher

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270109: Hoover Inequality Score Data Retrival and Calculation

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  Thanks!
  
  If I understand you correctly, you can/did calculate  scores based on
  
  Edits from within a month ("income", monthly)
  Edits from within a year ("income", yearly)
  
  for the "since the beginning of time" ("wealth") however, you wonder why 
there needs to be a month/year distinction. This is a good point – the 
time-frame would always be "begin-now", no matter if one measures it yearly, 
monthly, every second…  You are totally right on this one, we do not need two.
  
  I do not know how costly running "begin of time" is – I am pretty fine with 
running it every 3 month or so, too to save some computing time and CO2.
  
  > I suggest that we start the data acquisition procedures as of this month, 
and then slowly accumulate the time-series during 2021.
  
  Sounds good to me!
  
  > Besides these technical difficulties, everything else that we need to serve 
the datasets and results can be solved in no time. The dashboard, if we want 
one, will be rather simple.
  
  I am fine with datasets, but if it is easy to do, a simple dashboard might 
increase the usefulness for people who want to have a brief look and/or are not 
much into R/Excel.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270109: Hoover Inequality Score Data Retrival and Calculation

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  **User Story:**: As a PM/UX-Person I want to use an inequality score as part 
of assessing community health
  
  Based on the input of @GoranSMilovanovic, @guergana.tzatchkova  and me, I 
suggest and document the following:
  
  Data retrieval
  --
  
  To calculate the inequality of account edit contributions, we need to count 
edits for accounts. This means we need a way to select the accounts and a way 
to count edits.
  
  Account selection: All accounts that have been active in a certain timeframe. 
I suggest two levels of granularity: Month and Year.
  
  Counting Edits: I suggest two ways to count the edits: Edits done within that 
timeframe and total edits ever done, measured at the end of this timeframe. 
This is equivalent to measuring income and wealth, respectively in economics.
  
  This gives us 4 tables:
  
  | | Month | Year  |
  | --- | - | - |
  | Edits-over-time | edits | edits |
  | Total-at-time   | edits | edits |
  |
  
  These tables could either be just a list of edits ("long form") or be 
aggregated to a two column table that shows how often which edit count was in 
the set: We counted X accounts to have an edit count of Y ("aggregated form")
  
  Calculate hoover score
  --
  
  The score could be calculated with existing R packages. If they are not fast 
enough, we might need to consider optimization. The formula for hoover is quite 
simple and vectorizable afaic , so I guess it might run just fine. Let's keep 
in mind, that we need to run the scoring monthly and yearly, so it is not a 
continuous load.
  
  The resulting hover scores should be appended to tables of hoover scores. 
Again, these will be 4 tables:
  
  | | Monthly | Yearly |
  | --- | --- | -- |
  | Edits-over-time | hoover  | hoover |
  | Total-at-time   | hoover  | hoover |
  |
  
  and each table has two columns, one for the point in time and one for the 
according score at this moment (which way of measurement needs to be stated in 
the table’s name or in some metadata or in an extra "type-cell" for each row 
(which would be quite redundant)
  
  Presenting the scores
  -
  
  In the simplest case, we only provide the data and can see how it changes 
over time by importing it to excel or the like. Even better if we have a tool 
that visualizes the data:
  
  F33945562: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F33945562>
  
  (The wireframe has no timeframe selection, as the data will be small enough 
to just scroll back)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T266960: investigate sharing of query builder queries via URL [timebox: 4h]

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  Just a reminder from user research: Participants love a sharing option; the 
problem with storing state in URLs is that the data that the URL can carry was, 
at least for some the handwritten requests, rather limited and people started 
to code-golf their queries.
  
  @Ladsgroup: Vue state is a magic-ified javascript objects as far as I am 
concerned so one can probably URL-encode, URL-decode, JSON-parse and then use 
them in Vue (maybe in some hook or so, not sure exactly where). (The answer is 
clearer for vue3 since they split the reactivity from the main lib and here 
your objects and arrays are reactivized by getting the return of  ref(yourdata) 
or reactive(yourdata))

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T267635: Get 2020 user/editcount data to determine count at percentiles

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  > Again, please: did we resolve this one?
  
  Yes, resolved! Sorry for not setting it.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T205014: Data input: Forms for Item Entry

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  See related T217233 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217233> (Implement 
Model Items on Wikidata)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T205014: Data input: Forms for Item Entry

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  On this issue, the research with GLAM partners might be interesting, as many 
voiced problems with data modeling. See the Report, Chapter "There is no 
obvious way to get your data into Wikidata 'the right way'" 
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Research_Report_–_Use_of_Wikidata_in_GLAM_institutions_(2019-11).pdf>,
 page 11ff.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T267635: Get 2020 user/editcount data to determine count at percentiles

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Same as T242631 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242631>, but for data 
from recent months
  
  **User Story:**: As a UX Researcher, I want to know how "typical" a certain 
edit count among editors who have been active in some timeframe in the last 
months. (I would like to check how the numbers changed since T242631 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242631> and I would also like to create a 
list of edit count ranges for a survey, so editors do not need to state their 
(de-anonymizable) editcount)
  
  Format: Ideally, I would have a table (CSV) or even just the query that I can 
put into quarry to generate the table
  
  Columns:
  
  - (pseudonymous) user (some key/id is sufficient)
  - User edit count
  - Last active on [UNIX DATE] (basically I want to have active users 
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikistats_metrics/Editors>, but it 
might be helpful to have users who did <5 edits in the last month)
  - ideally, a column indicating if the account is a bot or not (Bot: TRUE | 
FALSE or so).
  
  This might be a very long table, so if it goes beyond 20MB I'd also take a 
sampled or some sort of truncated version.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T264733: Include a mini sample project that shows use of component, CSS, Tokens

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  > What you mean is clear but any concrete example exhibits the problem that 
it would showcase (and thus, arguably, favor) the use of one particular 
technology
  
  I think that this kind of neutrality is not very helpful beyond the claim of 
neutrality itself; even a LESS-writing person will benefit from a SASS example.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T264733: Include a mini sample project that shows use of component, CSS, Tokens

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  > It always was assumption that the "Show code" link…
  
  I think it would be helpful to see how several of the components can be 
combined
  
  I am also unsure about the code shown… I never used vue components this way 
(`function normal(): Component {`). Is this  typescript/ a typescript way of 
doing it?
  
  Maybe the language used in the examples is something that should be pointed 
out in the "getting started" or at the examples themselves. Similarly, the 
project seems to assume webpack (?) which also could be pointed out.
  
  > How to get to them is documented here: 
https://wmde.github.io/wikit/?path=/docs/documentation-getting-started--page#using-tokens
  
  I think also here it would be good to have an example of using tokens.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T264733: Include a mini sample project that shows use of component, CSS, Tokens

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  …I did write the original issue on github, in case anyone has questions.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T242631: Get user/editcount data to determine count at percentiles

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  I'll just ask you – I guess it won't fluctuate widely from month to month.
  
  Am Di., 21. Jan. 2020 um 12:06 Uhr schrieb GoranSMilovanovic <
  no-re...@phabricator.wikimedia.org>:
  
  > GoranSMilovanovic added a comment. View Task
  > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242631
  > @Jan_Dittrich https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Jan_Dittrich/ Great!
  > Would like to have the ETL procedure put on a crontab and run a regular
  > monthly update, or shall we say just ask me when you need the data again?
  > *TASK DETAIL*
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T242631: Get user/editcount data to determine count at percentiles

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  Thanks! This is what I needed. In case I need precise numbers for 
area-under-curve or so, I’ll create another task (I "integrated" via cumulative 
sums in Excel by now, so I might be off a measurement or so, but it is still 
enough as estimates)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T242631: Get user/editcount data to determine count at percentiles

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T242631: Get user/editcount data to determine count at percentiles

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  > a column where each particular editor is represented by one row while the 
(pseudonymous) user column refers to some ID value which thus anonymizes the 
real user ID/username? I guess (2)?
  
  Thanks for pointing this out! It just indicates that, while one user should 
be one row, I do not need the userID or user name, just some key that is unique 
is the table. 
  Also (but I think you guessed so already), it would be great if a bot/not bot 
column would be there OR if bots would be directly exculuded (if I get the data 
as CSV, I take the extra column)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159514: Who are the target users of our documentation

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  Depends… I guess this is still relevant and unresolved as long as the target 
groups have not been defined somewhere, yet.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T234789: Step 2: confirm existing reference when edit doesn't influence it

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  M290:  Flowcharts tainted references <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/M290>

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Jan_Dittrich added a mock: M290:  Flowcharts tainted references.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T231728: Show warning icon if statement value is changed but reference is not changed in the same edit

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  > Is that intentional or an oversight?
  
  Not intentional. The mid of the e and the longest horizontal cut through the 
of the circle should be about on the same vertical position.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T236355: Create popper Vue component

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T231729: Step 1: Click on warning icon and get an explanation of what is wrong

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  final figma mockup is pasted in the ticket. It is to be found where the 
previous mockup has been.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T231729: Step 1: Click on warning icon and get an explanation of what is wrong

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T236134: Step 2: Add statement context to the popper text

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T231729: Step 1: Click on warning icon and get an explanation of what is wrong

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T234793: Step 2: Count clicks decisive user actions take.

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  As for getting the relation of clicks:
  
  Of all people that opened the popper, how many people do click "dismiss 
warning", how many edit the statements which has the icon  and how many do not 
not do one or both of these.
  
  This can be helpful, because the relation of "doing nothing" vs. "doing 
something" can be changed and it would be a positive change (at least 
engagement) if people click "dismiss" or edit.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T234789: Step 2: confirm existing reference when edit doesn't influence it

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T234789: confirm existing reference when edit doesn't influence it

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  I also show a static warning message. However, I find not having it 
dynamically problematic usability-wise since we do not use the word "value" in 
our UI, so it is likely that people do not understand the not-dynamic message 
using the term "value" (Except if they already know "Wikidata-speak", but this 
is something they need to learn from others, so it is not cool for new users).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T234789: confirm existing reference when edit doesn't influence it

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  The above mockup says "remove message" which is pretty much what it does. It 
does not say "the edit is fine" or an equivalent, since this would probably 
need more words than I can fit on a button. Also it currently has no fixed 
semantic meaning, so removing it for one user is what is happening. When we 
have the 3rd milestone we need a more elaborate UI which gives some explanation 
for the now shared assertion of fine/not fine, probably in a popup.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T235045: static message for warning dialog

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  I suggest then 
  "The value changed, but the reference remained the same."
  
  However, I advise against a static warning message. We do not use the word 
"value" in our UI, so it is likely that  people do not  understand the 
not-dynamic message using the term "value".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T234789: confirm existing reference when edit doesn't influence it

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