[Wikidata] Re: web reference

[Platonides]

Yes. It now shows the correct title. Google updated it by itself.

Regards


On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 16:19, Dan Brickley  wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 16:40, Marie-Claude Lemaire 
> wrote:
>
>> I do not know how to get the complete  url as required by google to
>> suppress it. Their advice is to contact the webmaster of the site.
>>
>
> If you mean the complete URL of the Wikidata entry for Marie-Claude
> Lemiaire, the URL is:
>
>
> *https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q89127676
> *
>
> If I search in Google (using Google Chrome browser, but it should be the
> same using other tools), I see the Wikidata page is, for me at least, the
> 5th result. It looks like this:
>
> [image: image.png]
> Wikidata
> https://www.wikidata.org › wiki
> 
> Marie-Claude. 0 references. family name · Lemaire. 0 references.
> occupation · physicist. 0 references. academic degree · Doctor of
> Philosophy. 0 references.
>
> I believe this shows Google has already updated (re-crawled the Wikidata
> page) and no longer shows the unwanted name that was in the old version of
> Wikidata. That's all I know.
>
> Dan
>
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

[Platonides]

Wikidata editors don't have access to that.

On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 at 19:04, Simon Gelfand  wrote:

> Actually with webmaster tools it can be done by Wikidata - question is who
> has access to the webmaster tools of wikidata.org
>
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 9:52 PM Platonides  wrote:
>
>> Wikidata people know how to remove from Wikidata. And "Marie-Claude
>> Mallet-Lemaire" is no more in Wikidata.
>> But to delete from Google, you need Google people, not Wikidata people.
>>
>> That's what we have been trying to explain.
>>
>> Wikidata people may be easier to reach than Google people, but that
>> doesn't make Wikidata people the appropriate contact to remove content from
>> Google.
>>
>> Yesterday I suggested you to use the button "Lancer la demande de
>> suppresion" from
>> https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/9673730?hl=fr to request
>> Google to delete "Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire".
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

[Platonides]

Wikidata people know how to remove from Wikidata. And "Marie-Claude
Mallet-Lemaire" is no more in Wikidata.
But to delete from Google, you need Google people, not Wikidata people.

That's what we have been trying to explain.

Wikidata people may be easier to reach than Google people, but that doesn't
make Wikidata people the appropriate contact to remove content from Google.

Yesterday I suggested you to use the button "Lancer la demande de
suppresion" from https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/9673730?hl=fr
to request Google to delete "Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire".

Good luck
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

[Platonides]

Another resource that may help you to contact Google would be the form to
request from Google the removal of personally identifiable information or
doxxing content.

see https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/9673730?hl=fr and the
button "Lancer la demande de suppresion".

Regards

On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 21:47, Platonides  wrote:

> That needs to be requested from Google. As you can see Google is showing a
> result on Wikidata titled "M-C M-L", but the page itself is not named that
> way, but "M-C L".
> Making an analogy, this is not that a book has the author name misspelled,
> but that *it is misspelled in the library catalog*, and when you go pick
> the book from the shelf, it is actually correct on it. In this case
> complaining to the editor would not be too helpful. It's the library that
> needs to fix its catalog. In this case Google.
>
> It is expected that Google will notice and fix the copy automatically...
> but we don't know *when* it will do that.
>
> I see a new function in Google "Send comments to Google" that lets you
> provide feedback for a result item. Maybe you could contact Google that way
> to ask them to fix that entry?
>
> Regards
>
> PS: I would recommend not to continue stating the full name that
> should-not-be-named. Given that there should be zero results for that one,
> and this is a public mailing list, I see a risk of searches for that name
> leading to this very thread.
>
>
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

[Platonides]

That needs to be requested from Google. As you can see Google is showing a
result on Wikidata titled "M-C M-L", but the page itself is not named that
way, but "M-C L".
Making an analogy, this is not that a book has the author name misspelled,
but that *it is misspelled in the library catalog*, and when you go pick
the book from the shelf, it is actually correct on it. In this case
complaining to the editor would not be too helpful. It's the library that
needs to fix its catalog. In this case Google.

It is expected that Google will notice and fix the copy automatically...
but we don't know *when* it will do that.

I see a new function in Google "Send comments to Google" that lets you
provide feedback for a result item. Maybe you could contact Google that way
to ask them to fix that entry?

Regards

PS: I would recommend not to continue stating the full name that
should-not-be-named. Given that there should be zero results for that one,
and this is a public mailing list, I see a risk of searches for that name
leading to this very thread.
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[Wikidata] Re: updating Google indexing on demand

[Platonides]

On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 16:50, Samuel Klein  wrote:

>
> That would certainly help to correct the
>>> Google hit as well.
>>>
>>
>> See also
>> https://developers.google.com/search/docs/crawling-indexing/ask-google-to-recrawl?hl=en&visit_id=638262447414516079-4071153779&rd=1
>> for Google tooling that Wikidata could use to request URLs to be recrawled.
>> I don't know who is set up (if anyone) to access Google's Search Console on
>> behalf of Wikidata or Wikimedia, but it might potentially help here.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>
> This would be great tooling to have in general: a way for WD editors
> (admins?) to send a "please update now" query to Google and other indexes,
> for cases where time is of the essence.
>

Other tools would perhaps be more suited for this:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/9689846

Nonetheless, take into account that Google treats Wikipedia sites specially
(also probably wiktionary, wikisource... not sure if Wikidata as well). It
usually picks changes real quick, but it seems to be lagging on this case.
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[Wikidata] Re: WoolNet: New application to find connections between Wikidata entities

[Platonides]

That's great!

... Where can we find this application?

On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 at 19:58, Aidan Hogan  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Cristóbal Torres, in CC, has been working in the past few months on a
> new web application for Wikidata called WoolNet. The application helps
> users to find and visualise connections between Wikidata entities. We
> are pleased to share this application with you, and would love to hear
> your thoughts. We've prepared a quick survey, which links to the system:
>
> https://forms.gle/sCNqrAtJo98388iC6
>
> We are also happy for you to forward this email or the system to
> whomever you think might be interested.
>
> The application was developed by Cristóbal in the context of his
> undergraduate thesis here in the University of Chile.
>
> Thoughts, comments, questions, etc., very welcome!
>
> Best,
> Aidan
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[Wikidata] Re: Can no longer login (with or without VPN)

[Platonides]

Someone else could request a password reset email.

Perhaps that message could also be caused by some throttling error,
although I'm not aware of that.
I wonder if the password may somehow be provided differently from your
Chinese system, although that also seems unlikely.

Regards
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[Wikidata] Re: Can no longer login (with or without VPN)

[Platonides]

On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 at 23:26, Thad Guidry  wrote:

> A few things:
>
> This page does say the username is case sensitive.  Is it really?
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Logging_in
>

It is case sensitive... except for the first letter.

History note: this derives from usernames being a type of page.
Platonides, PLATONIDES and PlAtOnIdEs are different usernames, just as they
would be different article pages on wikipedia, since the first letter is
always capitalised there.
There are however some wikis (such as wiktionaries) configures so that the
articles do not get an automatic capital letter. But for consistency, the
"always place first username letter in capital" rule is applied everywhere.



>
> I do not see a reset password or request for temporary password on the
> login screen as it described on that help page:
>


> What if I forget the password or username?
>
> *Your username is case sensitive.* If you enter an email address when
> signing up for the account, or in your Preferences, you can make a request
> on the login screen for a temporary password to be sent to that address,
> which will allow you to retrieve your account. If you did not enter an
> email address, or the address was out of date, you will have to create a
> new account under a different username.
>

You would have to use https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:PasswordReset




>
> Instead I only see this when typing in my email address in the username
> box and leaving password box empty:
>

Logging in with an email on the username field is not supported. There is
an old request for that but, in addition of old accounts that could contain
an at sign, there may be multiple accounts with the same email (such as a
bot and its owner).

Regards
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Re: [Wikidata] Personal news: a new role

[Platonides]

Congratulations, Denny!
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Re: [Wikidata] Date of birth and name correlations

[Platonides]

On 15/04/16 18:04, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:

Andrew Gray, 14/04/2016 21:31:

I'm curious to know how many cases we have where two people share both
a name and a birthdate*but are confirmed to be different people*.


When are two birthdates the same, if the precision is not "day"?

Nemo


I understand the word birthdate was used for meaning "day, month and 
year are the same", whereas birthday usually mean just "day and month".


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Re: [Wikidata] getting arbitrary access done for Commons

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Will it be possible to force a property to be loaded in a given language
(typically English)? I'm thinking in usages that embed the property into
Category names, internal comparisons in a template…

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Re: [Wikidata] Announcing COOL-WD: A Completeness Tool for Wikidata

[Platonides]

On 02/03/16 23:17, Simon Razniewski wrote:


 > As a very (very) contrived example, it may be the case in the future
that legally (because some fictitious court ruling) a "son"
classification is reserved for only those who were conceived one year
after their parents' marriage because of bizarre tax policy. How then is
a prior classification of "compete" to be retroactively interpreted or
reconciled?

I don't know the current policy of Wikidata regarding changes of concept
definitions, but I guess one would need to do the same for all
completeness statements that one would need to do for all regular facts
that use the modified concept: Recheck whether they are still valid.


I would actually create a new Property and rename it to a name that was 
still appropiate (eg. 2005 planet).


Which is still interesting since
(a) IThe old property is probably useful per se (albeit the new one 
would be more desirable).

(b) Either the new or the old term is probably a super set of the other.



PS: The opposite can actually be considered true: The several legitimacy 
acts in England "changed" what was a "son".


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