Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

[Brill Lyle]

Here's drafts of a color deck (for projection) and a grayscale deck (for
printing)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/2016-08-05-AuthorityControl.pdf

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/2016-08-05-AuthorityControl-Grayscale.pdf

Suggestions welcome!

- Erika


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On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Brill Lyle  wrote:

> Andy and others --
>
> Would it be helpful if I did a slide deck that has this as a printable /
> projectable document? I could generate that if it might be useful.
>
> - Erika
>
>
> *Erika Herzog*
> Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle *
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
>
>> On 5 August 2016 at 18:50, Brill Lyle  wrote:
>> > I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for
>> manually
>> > inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to
>> Wikidata
>> > for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item.
>> >
>> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control
>>
>> Looks good! I will certainly make use of this in my training sessions..
>>
>> I would move your step 7 above the current step 5.
>>
>> I would also add a note that other statements should be added, not
>> least P31 ("instance of") => Q5 ("human").
>>
>> It's good practise to check for duplicates before creating an item,
>> but I think it's safe to omit that step, in a case like this, in a
>> simple guide for Wikidata newbies.
>>
>> Thanks for putting in the effort.
>>
>> --
>> Andy Mabbett
>> @pigsonthewing
>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

[Brill Lyle]

Andy and others --

Would it be helpful if I did a slide deck that has this as a printable /
projectable document? I could generate that if it might be useful.

- Erika


*Erika Herzog*
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On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On 5 August 2016 at 18:50, Brill Lyle  wrote:
> > I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for
> manually
> > inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to
> Wikidata
> > for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item.
> >
> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control
>
> Looks good! I will certainly make use of this in my training sessions..
>
> I would move your step 7 above the current step 5.
>
> I would also add a note that other statements should be added, not
> least P31 ("instance of") => Q5 ("human").
>
> It's good practise to check for duplicates before creating an item,
> but I think it's safe to omit that step, in a case like this, in a
> simple guide for Wikidata newbies.
>
> Thanks for putting in the effort.
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

[Brill Lyle]

Wanted to also add that I understand:

There are bots that
- Harvest new articles
- Add items for new articles
- Harvest authority control data

This is for casual Wikipedians -- especially librarians who like Authority
control and are creating stubs at editathons -- to start to learn how to
create a linked entry and edit Authority control on Wikidata. Something
quick and sequential so they might get an overview and translation of the
cross-walk between Wikipedia and Wikidata.

Gerard M. and I had an off list conversation about this and he thinks it is
not a valuable effort (see bots above). So that's why I wanted to mention
this usage.

Also when I want to have the new Wikipedia stub have the Authority control,
I can never use the steps. I am old and tired and need everything written
down. :-)

- Erika



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On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Brill Lyle  wrote:

> I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for
> manually inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to
> Wikidata for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item.
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control
>
> Wasn't sure if it is okay to create a page on Wikidata, but I followed the
> Be Bold! mantra and just went for it.
>
> And again this is not the most elegant solution, but I wanted there to be
> some sort of graphic documentation on how to update Authority Control.
>
> Best,
>
> - Erika
>
> *Erika Herzog*
> Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle *
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Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

[Brill Lyle]

I forgot about the duplicate issue. I think the assumption here is a new
Wikipedia page -- which is what we encounter at many of the editathons here
in NYC -- and how to get Authority control in as a new Wikidata item, but I
think I will footnote this

Thanks!

- Erika


*Erika Herzog*
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On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Andrew Gray 
wrote:

> On 5 August 2016 at 19:28, john cummings  wrote:
> > Hey Erika
> >
> > One suggestion, add a step before creating a new item on Wikidata of
> > searching for an existing item, it may be an item exists but isn't
> linked to
> > Wikipedia.
>
> With authority control, that may be a self-repairing a problem - if
> you add an identifier that already exists on another item, it'll be
> automatically logged and flagged on the constraints report. These get
> pruned every now and again, so the duplicate record will get fixed in
> time. See, for example, a few examples (which are probably my fault!)
> at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/
> Constraint_violations/P1614#.22Unique_value.22_violations
>
> Andrew.
>
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Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

[Brill Lyle]

Very smart. Done.

I didn't want to get into adding statements and other elements to Wikidata
as it somewhat outside the scope of the Authority control thing, but Maybe
I should link to the Tours. I founds those helpful.

Thank you!


*Erika Herzog*
Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle *

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On 5 August 2016 at 18:50, Brill Lyle  wrote:
> > I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for
> manually
> > inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to
> Wikidata
> > for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item.
> >
> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control
>
> Looks good! I will certainly make use of this in my training sessions..
>
> I would move your step 7 above the current step 5.
>
> I would also add a note that other statements should be added, not
> least P31 ("instance of") => Q5 ("human").
>
> It's good practise to check for duplicates before creating an item,
> but I think it's safe to omit that step, in a case like this, in a
> simple guide for Wikidata newbies.
>
> Thanks for putting in the effort.
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

[Brill Lyle]

Good suggestion. Done.


*Erika Herzog*
Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle *

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:28 PM, john cummings 
wrote:

> Hey Erika
>
> One suggestion, add a step before creating a new item on Wikidata of
> searching for an existing item, it may be an item exists but isn't linked
> to Wikipedia.
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
> On 5 August 2016 at 19:50, Brill Lyle  wrote:
>
>> I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for
>> manually inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to
>> Wikidata for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item.
>>
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control
>>
>> Wasn't sure if it is okay to create a page on Wikidata, but I followed
>> the Be Bold! mantra and just went for it.
>>
>> And again this is not the most elegant solution, but I wanted there to be
>> some sort of graphic documentation on how to update Authority Control.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> - Erika
>>
>> *Erika Herzog*
>> Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle *
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Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

[Andrew Gray]

On 5 August 2016 at 19:28, john cummings  wrote:
> Hey Erika
>
> One suggestion, add a step before creating a new item on Wikidata of
> searching for an existing item, it may be an item exists but isn't linked to
> Wikipedia.

With authority control, that may be a self-repairing a problem - if
you add an identifier that already exists on another item, it'll be
automatically logged and flagged on the constraints report. These get
pruned every now and again, so the duplicate record will get fixed in
time. See, for example, a few examples (which are probably my fault!)
at 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P1614#.22Unique_value.22_violations

Andrew.

- Andrew Gray
  andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk

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Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

[Andy Mabbett]

On 5 August 2016 at 18:50, Brill Lyle  wrote:
> I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for manually
> inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to Wikidata
> for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item.
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control

Looks good! I will certainly make use of this in my training sessions..

I would move your step 7 above the current step 5.

I would also add a note that other statements should be added, not
least P31 ("instance of") => Q5 ("human").

It's good practise to check for duplicates before creating an item,
but I think it's safe to omit that step, in a case like this, in a
simple guide for Wikidata newbies.

Thanks for putting in the effort.

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

[john cummings]

Hey Erika

One suggestion, add a step before creating a new item on Wikidata of
searching for an existing item, it may be an item exists but isn't linked
to Wikipedia.

Thanks

John

On 5 August 2016 at 19:50, Brill Lyle  wrote:

> I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for
> manually inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to
> Wikidata for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item.
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control
>
> Wasn't sure if it is okay to create a page on Wikidata, but I followed the
> Be Bold! mantra and just went for it.
>
> And again this is not the most elegant solution, but I wanted there to be
> some sort of graphic documentation on how to update Authority Control.
>
> Best,
>
> - Erika
>
> *Erika Herzog*
> Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle *
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