[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

2015-03-20 Thread Multichill
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I might have mixed up some parameter content. One thing is clear: It's 
inconsistent. I'm confused.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T93332: Fatal error: Call to undefined function Wikibase\cal_days_in_month() on travis

2015-03-20 Thread aude
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  Fatal error: Call to undefined function Wikibase\cal_days_in_month() in 
/home/travis/build/wikimedia/phase3/extensions/Wikibase/repo/includes/rdf/RdfBuilder.php
 on line 784
  Destructor threw an object exception: exception 'MWException' with message 
'Wikibase\Test\RdfBuilderTest::tearDown() must call parent::tearDown()' in 
/home/travis/build/wikimedia/phase3/tests/phpunit/MediaWikiTestCase.php:95
  Stack trace:
  #0 (): MediaWikiTestCase-__destruct()
  #1 {main}
  
  think this is because zend compatibility is not enabled in travis:
  
  http://docs.hhvm.com/manual/en/configuration.zend.compat.php

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93332: Fatal error: Call to undefined function Wikibase\cal_days_in_month() on travis

2015-03-20 Thread gerritbot
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Change 198201 merged by jenkins-bot:
Enable zend_compat for hhvm builds

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198201


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93332: Fatal error: Call to undefined function Wikibase\cal_days_in_month() on travis

2015-03-20 Thread aude
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zend_compat is something that Tim worked on and is definitely enabled for wmf.

in puppet for wmf config, we have:

./modules/hhvm/manifests/init.pp:enable_zend_compat   = true,


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93207: Better namespace URI for the wikibase ontology

2015-03-20 Thread daniel
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93207#1133747, @mkroetzsch wrote:

 @daniel: Have you wondered why XML Schema decided against changing their 
 URIs? It is by far the most disruptive thing that you could possibly do.


Besides a breaking change in the interpretation, the meaning of a URI.

 Ontologies don't work like software libraries where you download a new 
 version and build your tool against it, changing identifiers as required. 
 Changing all URIs of an ontology (even if only on a major version increment) 
 will break third-party applications and established usage patterns in a 
 single step. There is no mechanism in place to do this smoothly.


If you make a breaking change to the data model, third-party applications will 
break anyway when they try to consume the data. Better give them a way to tell.

 You never want to do this. Even changing a single URI can be very costly, and 
 is probably not what you want if the breaking change affects only a 
 diminishing part of your users (How many BCE dates are there in XSD files? 
 How many of those were already assuming the ISO reading anyway?).


If the affected group is //very// small, maybe. As to the ISO reading: in ISO 
8601:1998, -1 is 1 BCE. in ISO 8601:2004, -1 is 2 BCE, see 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_%28year%29#ISO_8601. And who is using the old 
interpretation anyway? Well, the Java standard libraries for example, at least 
according to the docs: 
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/api/javax/xml/datatype/XMLGregorianCalendar.html
 says it's 1.0. That's also what BlazeGraph uses.

Sure, there will be a lot less negative dates out there than positive. But this 
change //broke all of them// without //any// way to know which interpretation 
is intended when you see an xsd:date in a document.

So, which spec should we use for generating our output, xsd 1.0 / ISO 8601:1998 
or xsd 1.1 / ISO 8601:2004?

 Having a version number in URLs does not solve the problem of versioning: it 
 just creates an obligation for you to change *all* URIs whenever you update 
 the ontology.


Well, you change the base URI, yea.

 If you really ever want to make a breaking change to one URI, then you just 
 create a new URI for this purpose and keep the old one defined as it was. 

  Then you stop using the old one in the data. Clean, easy, and usually 
 without any disruption to 99% of the users (depending on which URI you 
 changed of course ;-).


That's exactly what having a version number in the URI does.

I would have preferred if XSD had just introduced a new data type, 
xsd:astroDate or something. That would have avoided the breaking change.

 This introduction of new names is completely independent of your ontology 
 document version.


Now I'm confused. To me the introduction of new names //is// the new ontology 
version.

 Besides all this, breaking changes are extremely rare. The example you gave 
 (changing the meaning of an XML Schema datatype) does not apply to us, since 
 we cannot do such things in our ontology.


We don't? We may very well define our own data type for dates, since even for 
the gregorian calendar model, xsd:date doesn't cover all our needs.

 In essence, our ontology is just a declaration of technical vocabulary. Most 
 changes you could make do not cause any incompatibility -- the Semantic Web 
 is built on an open-world assumption so that additions of information to the 
 ontology never are breaking anything. 

  The only potentially breaking change to an ontology is when you delete some 
 information, but even there it is hard to see how it should break a specific 
 application.


Well, you can introduce a contradiction, that would break the ontology 
internally.

But worse, you can change the //interpretation// of the terms in the ontology, 
which will break //applications//, if produce and consumer of the data do not 
agree on the interpretation.

 Summing up, the only breaking change to an ontology is to change an important 
 URI that many people rely on. The current proposal is to introduce a 
 mechanism for doing exactly this.


There is two dicussions here:

1. change the ontology URI to reflect the fact that it is a wikibase ontology, 
not a wikidata ontology.
2. include a version number in the ontology uri.

This ticket is about (1). Your arguments seem to be concerned mostly with (2), 
perhaps we should have a separate ticket for that. Do I understand you 
correctly that you agree that we //should// change the base URI to refer to 
wikibase, and do it very soon?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93332: Fatal error: Call to undefined function Wikibase\cal_days_in_month() on travis

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93332: Fatal error: Call to undefined function Wikibase\cal_days_in_month() on travis

2015-03-20 Thread gerritbot
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Change 198201 had a related patch set uploaded (by Aude):
Enable zend_compat for hhvm builds

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198201


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T93332: Fatal error: Call to undefined function Wikibase\cal_days_in_month() on travis

2015-03-20 Thread hoo
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Indeed that function is part of zend compat: 
https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/blob/07f8201682818abdcc0aa581c9eaa991b2b04965/hphp/runtime/ext_zend_compat/calendar/php_calendar.h#L28


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T93453: Create distinction between coordinates on Earth and others

2015-03-20 Thread Smalyshev
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  Right now all coordinates are represented in simple data as [[ 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoSPARQL | geo:wktLiteral ]]. However, it may 
make sense to distinguish Earth coordinates (most frequent use case) from Moon, 
Mars and other globe coordinates, so that something like 100 miles around the 
White House would not return objects on the Moon. I don't know yet how to 
represent it in a way that would both fit the simple value and be clear, maybe 
using different data types or some different syntax than WKT.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T49288: Track Wikidata entity usage on client pages

2015-03-20 Thread greg
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This is in the March 2015 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/roadmap/ 
column. There's 1.5 weeks left in March. Should we push it back?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93256: Documentation of year 0 and negative years

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93209: Order of aliases and descriptions in the header should be switched around

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T93207: Better namespace URI for the wikibase ontology

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93191: Usage Tracking: correctly track redirect usage

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93209: Order of aliases and descriptions in the header should be switched around

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93207: Better namespace URI for the wikibase ontology

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T93184: Uncaught TypeError: undefined is not a functionjquery.webfonts.js (line 65)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93350: use wbc_entity_usage table to populate subscriptions if available in clients

2015-03-20 Thread aude
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looks like this stuff is not documented very well.

when we run populateChangesSubscription.php then we need to run 
updateSubscriptions.php on *ALL* clients that have arbitrary access enabled.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93183: Narrow fields in Special:NewItem and Special:NewProperty

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93184: Uncaught TypeError: undefined is not a functionjquery.webfonts.js (line 65)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T93350: use wbc_entity_usage table to populate subscriptions if available in clients

2015-03-20 Thread aude
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  if a client wiki has the wbc_entity_usage table then, that should be used to 
populate subscriptions instead of wb_items_per_site.
  
  if there is arbitrary access enabled, the the site links table will miss 
stuff.
  
  (i suppose this is only an issue on wikidata and the test wikis, which do not 
have *that* much arbitrary usage, but still would be nice to cover that use 
case)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T93193: Label in header and edit toolbar overlap if label is extra long

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93193: Label in header and edit toolbar overlap if label is extra long

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93183: Narrow fields in Special:NewItem and Special:NewProperty

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93209: Order of aliases and descriptions in the header should be switched around

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T93193: Label in header and edit toolbar overlap if label is extra long

2015-03-20 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93193: Label in header and edit toolbar overlap if label is extra long

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

2015-03-20 Thread Lucie
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They are all in singular. So it's actually label, description and 
sitelink- in fact the example  which uses sitelinks is wrong.

If you use 
https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbmergeitemsfromid=Q66toid=Q99ignoreconflicts=sitelinks|description
 is will return the error

  code: failed-modify,
  info: Attempted modification of the item failed (Conflicting 
sitelinks for enwiki),

which is obviously wrong. So if you use 
https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbmergeitemsfromid=Q66toid=Q99ignoreconflicts=sitelink|description
 everything works just as expected.

I'm going to fix the example now!


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

2015-03-20 Thread Lucie
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T93057: add eu_page_touched field to wbc_entity_usage_tracking

2015-03-20 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T93183: Narrow fields in Special:NewItem and Special:NewProperty

2015-03-20 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93350: use wbc_entity_usage table to populate subscriptions if available in clients

2015-03-20 Thread aude
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it still would be nice if populateChangesSubscription took entity usage into 
account if available, but perhaps separate steps (if adequately documented) is 
ok. :/


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T93183: Narrow fields in Special:NewItem and Special:NewProperty

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93183: Narrow fields in Special:NewItem and Special:NewProperty

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93106: GSoC proposal for Wikivoyage PageBanner extension

2015-03-20 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93127: Setup WikidataPageBanner extension repository on Gerrit

2015-03-20 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T92288: Increase width of the eu_aspect column to allow inclusion of language codes.

2015-03-20 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

2015-03-20 Thread Lucie
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93273: UnresolvedRedirectException from line 87 of WikiPageEntityRevisionLookup.php

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T93273: UnresolvedRedirectException from line 87 of WikiPageEntityRevisionLookup.php

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93073: When entering new statement + qualifier, the qualifier is not rendered on save

2015-03-20 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T66084: Time data-type inconsistently zero-pads year value (dates earlier than year 1000?)

2015-03-20 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T64778: aggregate list of non user-friendly messages on Wikidata

2015-03-20 Thread Lucie
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How come the bug is closed/resolved but there is still an open patch for it? 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/122404/


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

2015-03-20 Thread gerritbot
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Change 198224 merged by jenkins-bot:
Correct example for wbmergeitems

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198224


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T91073: Update Wikidata for ApiResult rewrite

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T91073: Update Wikidata for ApiResult rewrite

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T90567: Automated Wikidata build process

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93172: Adapt JS Serialization to new EntityIdValue serialization

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93073: When entering new statement + qualifier, the qualifier is not rendered on save

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Assigned] T92431: white gap next to wikibase-sitelinkgroupview-heading-container in site link edit mode

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

2015-03-20 Thread Lucie
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

2015-03-20 Thread gerritbot
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Change 198224 had a related patch set uploaded (by Lucie Kaffee):
Correct example for wbmergeitems

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/198224


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93282: wbmergeitems ignoreconflicts incorrect documentation

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T93353: Drop support for API style XML output from Special:EntityData

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  Special:EntityData currently supports various RDF serializations, as well as 
API style JSON and XML. Dropping support for the API style XML would allow us 
to remove the awkward dependency and ugly code caused by abusing the API 
classes for generating the output of a special page.
  Instead, we would generate the JSON output directly, like we do for JSON 
dumps and DB storage.
  
  Note that the API style XML format is not documented for Wikibase, it's 
basically an artifact how how the MediaWiki API works. It's use is discouraged 
even for the API, and I see no reason we should expose it via our linked data 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T50143: Implement complete RDF mapping for entities (tracking)

2015-03-20 Thread Smalyshev
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93404: run phpunit ResourcesTest from core for wikibase

2015-03-20 Thread gerritbot
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Change 166024 had a related patch set uploaded (by JanZerebecki):
Add Job to run ResourcesTest for WikibaseRepo

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/166024


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93404: run phpunit ResourcesTest from core for wikibase

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93404: run phpunit ResourcesTest from core for wikibase

2015-03-20 Thread JanZerebecki
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As this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/180496/ does not work for wikibase 
as it uses multiple runs with filters.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T92522: Add test case for output of stubs for mentioned entities in RDF output

2015-03-20 Thread Smalyshev
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We now have tests for PRODUCE_RESOLVED_ENTITIES and PRODUCE_PROPERTIES in the 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T73991: RDF output should contain license info about the concrete rendering, not only the abstract description document.

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Not sure I understand this one - is it about putting license in each entity:Q* 
? I think that would be a bit redundant, especially in dumps. Especially given 
that we have the same license for everything.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Lowered Priority] T73991: RDF output should contain license info about the concrete rendering, not only the abstract description document.

2015-03-20 Thread Smalyshev
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T93404: run phpunit ResourcesTest from core for wikibase

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93404: run phpunit ResourcesTest from core for wikibase

2015-03-20 Thread JanZerebecki
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T92521: Improve meta-data handling in RDF-Output

2015-03-20 Thread Smalyshev
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I think this is done.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T50143: Implement complete RDF mapping for entities (tracking)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93375: vagrant default wiki is not in interwiki table / sites table which means it can not be linked in wikidata

2015-03-20 Thread JanZerebecki
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T46580: Script for creating RDF dumps of all entities

2015-03-20 Thread Smalyshev
Smalyshev closed blocking task T92586: Remove reference duplicates from RDF 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T92006: Add date filtering to RDF export

2015-03-20 Thread Smalyshev
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T74184: fix the qunit tests for wikidata: mwext-Wikibase-qunit

2015-03-20 Thread Jdforrester-WMF
Jdforrester-WMF closed blocking task T74063: Jenkins: Convert mediawiki qunit 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T85407: improve dump documentation

2015-03-20 Thread Lucie
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I added the link to data access now in the footer at Developers

https://github.com/wmde/Wikidata.org/pull/19


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T93375: vagrant default wiki is not in interwiki table / sites table which means it can not be linked in wikidata

2015-03-20 Thread JanZerebecki
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93207: Better namespace URI for the wikibase ontology

2015-03-20 Thread mkroetzsch
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@daniel It makes sense to use wikibase rather than wikidata, but I don't think 
it matters very much at all. We should just define it rather sooner than later.

As for the versioning, I don't see how to convince you. Four more attempts:

- Try to apply your proposal to the MediaWiki API: Every API action should 
contain the MW version number. I think from your experience with MW it should 
be easier for you to see why this would be a bad idea. RDF is the same, but it 
affects a lot more APIs.

- Another argument is that, of course, changing URIs does not give users any 
warnings about the change either. Their queries will just return different 
results, but there won't be any error message or the like. This behaviour is 
exactly the same as for other kinds of breaking changes. You just add a new 
kind of breaking change that is sure to break everybody's usage (not just the 
users' who use BCE dates, to stay in your example), but the breakage is still 
subtle and hard to notice in a running system. URI versioning does not 
implement any kind of fail fast principle that you would want for announcing 
breaking changes. There is no standard way of announcing breaking changes via 
an RDF or SPARQL API; you need to work on your community communication to get 
this done (e.g., one could send notes about breaking changes well in advance to 
wikidata-tech and gather feedback).

- You gave an example where a well-informed group of experts decided against 
your recommendation. I know of many other examples where URIs were initially 
created to contain a version number that was then never changed even after 
major updates (FOAF for example), again because experts in the field deemed 
that this was a sensible way to go. I would also claim some expertise in this 
area. Your view is natural for somebody who has not worked much with 
ontologies. Many smart people have thought similar ten years ago (you can see a 
lot of 0.1 and 1.0 version numbers in vocabulary URIs. Even the SMW 
ontology includes a version number in the URIs; of course it also never 
changed). Experience shows that the case where you would ever want to do such a 
drastic thing is the case where you use completely new URIs anyway (and 
probably give the project another name, too).

- You could always decide to do the versioning later on if you must. There is 
no problem going from URIs http://wikiba.se/ontology#... to URIs 
http://wikiba.se/ontology-2.0.0# There is no standard way of encoding 
version information in URIs and you would not write a SPARQL query to extract 
it from there. However, in most cases, if you really change the meaning of one 
URI, you would rather use a new URI for this one thing only and keep all the 
other URIs as they are.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T92970: Replace ApiResult::setRawMode use in EntityDataSerializationService

2015-03-20 Thread hoo
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T92970: Replace ApiResult::setRawMode use in EntityDataSerializationService

2015-03-20 Thread ksmith
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This issue is blocking 7 commits in mediawiki core (the blocker noted here is 
blocking others), so it would help us if it could make it into the next sprint.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T93441: make TermFallback and Alias validate their use

2015-03-20 Thread JanZerebecki
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T87574: Wrong time parsing of ISO dates with day 00

2015-03-20 Thread JanZerebecki
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T87574: Wrong time parsing of ISO dates with day 00

2015-03-20 Thread JanZerebecki
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This needs a new release of https://github.com/DataValues/Time .


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