[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T94539: BlazeGraph uses old xsd:dateTime standard

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Between XSD 1.0 and XSD 1.1 standards, the meaning of dates with year 0 and 
negative years changed. In XSD 1.0, year 0 is invalid, and year -1 is 1 BCE. In 
XSD 1.1, following ISO 8601:2000, year 0 is valid and means 1 BCE, year -1 is 2 
BCE.
  
  Judging from these tests:
  ```
  prefix xsd: 
  
  SELECT ?date
  WHERE {
BIND ( year("-01-01T00:00:00"^^xsd:dateTime) AS ?date)
  }
  
  MalformedQueryException: "-01-01T00:00:00" is not a valid representation 
of an XML Gregorian Calendar value.
  prefix xsd: 
  
  SELECT ?date
  WHERE {
BIND ( "0001-01-01T00:00:00"^^xsd:dateTime - 
"-0001-01-01T00:00:00"^^xsd:dateTime AS ?date)
  }
  
  366.0
  ```
  
  Blazegraph follows XSD 1.0. Current RDF spec specifies that it uses XSD 1.1. 
So we probably need an option to support XSD 1.1. 
  
  See also discussion in T94064.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T90852: Create a system to store and query links to books

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@CeruleanDreamer, could you email me at nko...@wikimedia.org regarding 
Outreachy? We may have some opportunity to adjust you in.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93866: Rollback diff causes error

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Change 200810 had a related patch set uploaded (by Aaron Schulz):
Added slave/master fallback logic in Revision

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/200810


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93866: Rollback diff causes error

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Change 199804 abandoned by Aaron Schulz:
Added slave/master fallback logic in Revision

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/199804


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T90879: adapt machine learning tools to Wikidata for spam and vandalism fighting

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I'm working on this in several different projects


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T66084: Time data-type inconsistently zero-pads year value (dates earlier than year 1000?)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93885: Implement a limit for entities accessed via arbitrary access features and mark as expensive

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@Rical: We already have entity caching in place, this is (mostly) about other 
pain points like in process memory usage, in process cpu time usage, used 
network bandwidth and such things.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93885: Implement a limit for entities accessed via arbitrary access features and mark as expensive

[Rical]

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The cases are very various and choose some stable limits seems very hard.

How to adapt and reduce the charge of servers ? Which part in real time ? Which 
part in pre-computed time ?
The way could be : For each title Q and each property P compute a mean 
delay between 2 acces and a mean charge of an acces.
From these mean charges, select which Q and P pre-computed work we keep 
in "cache" to reduce the global charge of servers.
The real time work is then reduced to the too unpredictible asks.

This perpetual optimization process could use 1% of the charge of servers, but 
greatly reduce the global charge.
The question become : which elementary charge we compute to optimize the global 
process ?

Then the limits can be bigger and less meaningfull.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94064: Date of +0000-01-01 is allowed but undefined in wikibase but is not allowed in xsd:dateTime as implemented by blazegraph

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Virtuoso seems to be pretty odd. E.g. this query:

  PREFIX :  
  SELECT ?x  ?time WHERE { 
?x  ?time . 
FILTER (?time < "0002-01-01"^^xsd:date) 
  } LIMIT 100

returns only a handful of items with year 1 but not any dates with BCE. Same 
when using "0002"^^xsd:gYear.  Moreover, this one:

  PREFIX :  
  SELECT count(?time) WHERE { 
?x  ?time . 
FILTER regex(str(?time), "^-") .
FILTER (?time > "0001"^^) .
  } LIMIT 100

produces 3541 - i.e., Virtuoso thinks all negative years are actually bigger 
than year 1. No idea what's going on there but I suspect it's not what we want.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94064: Date of +0000-01-01 is allowed but undefined in wikibase but is not allowed in xsd:dateTime as implemented by blazegraph

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> Item 1 will ensure that we can work with the dates as they will most likely 
> be when we enter production.


I'm not sure what is the basis of this assertion? I didn't see any plans for 
BlazeGraph to move to new standard in the near term, and the same for Virtuoso. 
I will create an issue with Blazegraph but even if/when we convince them to 
move (as this would mean everybody that uses older 1.0 format will not be able 
to receive correct results from RDF anymore, I'm not sure they'd be eager to 
switch) it may take time, and more realistically we'd probably to have to rely 
on our own date handling eventually. However, this is for BlazeGraph, but 
loading the same data into Virtuoso would still produce broken results for any 
BCE date.

More importantly, do we have a commitment that Wikidata data format will be 
changed in the very near future so that all stored dates are actually valid 
proleptic Gregorian? We've initiated this discussion very recently and I didn't 
see any definite resolution yet, much less commitment for the time when the 
data would actually be like this (and how Julian dates will be represented in 
this case). Do you propose that until this happens, our date values in RDF dump 
for every Julian date, evern BCE date, and all dates like -02-31 should be 
unusuable? I'm not sure how that improves anything.

> It would be a waste of programming time to work around issues that others are 
> already trying to fix as we speak.


There's no programming time - current model is already implemented (and Julian 
handling too). Of course, it's not a problem to change it, but for that we need 
to know what we're changing it to and how it would work. Assuming that 
everything is ISO 8601:2000 when in fact it is not does not seem like correct 
way - BlazeGraph would just reject invalid dates (so, not useful for queries), 
and even worse - it would consume current BCE dates not in ISO 8601:2000 but in 
its own understanding of dates, which will make all queries touching 1BCE and 
below invalid, at least until we implement custom date handling. I'm not sure I 
understand why this is the best option, unless we //know// all internal dates 
move to  ISO 8601:2000 very soon.

> I agree with you that some dates will not be interpreted as intended, but 
> this is unavoidable


It is true that there will be invalid dates. But you seem to be proposing just 
ignoring this fact and put them in the data - with full knowledge they are 
invalid and either can not be consumed by the query engine or, even worse, will 
be interpreted incorrectly by the query engine. I am proposing to try and fix 
those that we can so that we allow the query engine to make sense for most of 
them. For others, to just provide string representation and not claim that some 
random assembly of characters that we can not validate is actually xsd:dateTime.

> Your finding of "" years in our Virtuoso instance is quite peculiar


Virtuoso seems to be able to import invalid dates. I'm not sure if it's 
actually able to index it (probably not but I can check). However other tools 
can reject them or even fail the whole import.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94064: Date of +0000-01-01 is allowed but undefined in wikibase but is not allowed in xsd:dateTime as implemented by blazegraph

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@Smalyshev P.S. Your finding of "" years in our Virtuoso instance is quite 
peculiar given that this endpoint is based on RDF 1.0 dumps as they are 
currently generated in WDTK using this code: 
https://github.com/Wikidata/Wikidata-Toolkit/blob/a9f676bfbc2df545d386bfa72e5130fa280521a9/wdtk-rdf/src/main/java/org/wikidata/wdtk/rdf/values/TimeValueConverter.java#L112-L117


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94064: Date of +0000-01-01 is allowed but undefined in wikibase but is not allowed in xsd:dateTime as implemented by blazegraph

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@Smalyshev We really want the same thing: move on with minimal disturbance as 
quickly as possible. As you rightly say, the data we generate right now is not 
meant for production use but for testing. We must make sure that our production 
environment will understand dates properly, but it's still some time before 
that. Here is my proposal summed up:

1. Implement RDF export now as if Wikidata would encode all dates in ISO 
8601:2000 (proleptic Gregorian with year 0 encoding -1BCE)
2. Have a switch in the RDF export code that allows us to export to RDF 1.1 or 
to RDF 1.0.

Item 1 will ensure that we can work with the dates as they will most likely be 
when we enter production. With the discovery that all of JavaScript relies on 
ISO 8601:2000, there is not much of a question that we will have this corrected 
in the end. It would be a waste of programming time to work around issues that 
others are already trying to fix as we speak. We can still implement 
reinterpretations of the internal dates when we find that the internal format 
is still broken when we want to release this (I hope this won't happen).

Item 2 is a compromise. It will ensure that we can use BlazeGraph even before 
the xsd:date bug is fixed. Has anyone reported the issue to them yet? It might 
well be that they are quicker fixing this than we are finishing this 
discussion. I am sure they would also like to conform to SPARQL 1.1.

I agree with you that some dates will not be interpreted as intended, but this 
is unavoidable (whatever rule we pick, we will always have some dates that are 
not as intended, already because of the calendar model mix-up). We have to rely 
on the ongoing review to get this fixed. This should not worry us right now, as 
it affects everyone (including actual production uses of Wikidata data from the 
API or JSON dumps).


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T94143: Unstyled "Edit links" when previewing a page

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T91840: Test of WikiGrok --> Wikidata pipeline

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T84902: deploy haedus and capella with os for orientdb testing

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Should have a decom/reclaim ticket to follow-up with 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T90123: BlazeGraph Finalization: Value representation

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T89300: "Add qualifier" button should automatically focus text box

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Change 200641 merged by jenkins-bot:
Fix focus when clicking "add qualifier"

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93864: Focus not in main snak value after selecting a property with mouse

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Change 200640 merged by jenkins-bot:
Fix focus on value field on property select

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Declined] T84902: deploy haedus and capella with os for orientdb testing

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As orientdb testing is over... @Manybubbles are these still needed?


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Change 200641 had a related patch set uploaded (by Aude):
Fix focus when clicking "add qualifier"

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Change 200640 had a related patch set uploaded (by Aude):
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T93658: cron job to create RDF dumps

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94115: Add property types to RDF dump

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Change 200262 merged by jenkins-bot:
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93658: cron job to create RDF dumps

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Ready to run manual command to create a dump:

  filename=`date +'%Y%m%d'`; i=0; shards=4; while [ $i -lt $shards ]; do php 
/srv/mediawiki/multiversion/MWScript.php 
extensions/Wikidata/extensions/Wikibase/repo/maintenance/dumpRdf.php --format 
ttl --wiki wikidatawiki --shard $i --sharding-factor $shards 2>> 
/var/log/wikidatadump/dumpwikidatardf-$filename-$i.log | gzip > 
/mnt/data/xmldatadumps/temp/wikidataRdf-$filename.$i.gz & let i++; done


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94064: Date of +0000-01-01 is allowed but undefined in wikibase but is not allowed in xsd:dateTime as implemented by blazegraph

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I'm not sure why it is the only way. Certainly using Somevalue or string or any 
other placeholder value are ways too. They can be worse ways if you see 
arguments against them but why they are not ways at all? Why these ways can not 
be considered? Also, we're not talking only about year 0 - there are many 
non-Gregorian dates there.

Judging by this:
http://milenio.dcc.uchile.cl/sparql?default-graph-uri=&query=PREFIX+%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fentity%2F%3E+SELECT+count%28%3Ftime%29+WHERE+%7B+%0D%0A++%3Fx+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fontology%23time%3E+%3Ftime+.+%0D%0A++FILTER+regex%28str%28%3Ftime%29%2C+%22%5E%22%29+.%0D%0A%7D+&format=text%2Fhtml&timeout=0&debug=on

We have 51 entries with year 0 (if the data there is full and up-to-date) and 
3541 negative dates. Not sure how to count invalid dates but there is a date 
like "1966-02-31"^^http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date in the DB there which 
doesn't look like a valid one - looks like Virtuoso is more lenient in allowing 
invalid data than BlazeGraph.

We also have 12806 entries marked as Julian.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93658: cron job to create RDF dumps

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We need a variant of modules/snapshot/files/dumpwikidatajson.sh for this, which 
does the sharding and assembling the shards.
https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/operations%2Fpuppet.git/6abb1fd3a7b9e9baa0155732d0e96999ff925527/modules%2Fsnapshot%2Ffiles%2Fdumpwikidatajson.sh


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94064: Date of +0000-01-01 is allowed but undefined in wikibase but is not allowed in xsd:dateTime as implemented by blazegraph

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It is the only way I see forward right now that will let you continue working 
on queries quickly. (Anything else needs considerably more 
discussion/investigation as this ticket shows) And I consider it acceptable in 
this case. How many cases are we talking about?


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@Lydia_Pintscher this means for the dump there will be no difference between 
"has property value with date containing year 0" and "has no property valye". 
I'm not sure it is a good idea. Having no property value is meaningful (e.g. 
having position start/end date, having death date, having organization 
creation/dissolution date, etc.) so it may lead to wrong query results. We may 
use string or Somevalue, but dropping existing data seems too radical for me.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94064: Date of +0000-01-01 is allowed but undefined in wikibase but is not allowed in xsd:dateTime as implemented by blazegraph

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Yes I am proposing to drop dates that have year set to 0 for now from the RDF 
export. We can communicate that and need to do this anyway as it is really bad 
practice.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94064: Date of +0000-01-01 is allowed but undefined in wikibase but is not allowed in xsd:dateTime as implemented by blazegraph

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> The WDTK RDF exports are generated based on the original specification. There 
> is no technical issue with this and it does not block development to do just 
> this.


If by original specification you mean assumption "all data is proleptic 
Gregorian", then it does not match the current data. I.e. if I just make code 
assume that, it will generate a real lot of broken dates which will not be 
interpreted properly by the query engine. In fact, almost all Julian dates will 
be wrong, and many others will be broken too. I'm not sure how useful it would 
be to take this road - why have broken data in our dump?

> If not, then better wait until Lydia has a conclusion for what to do with 
> dates, rather than implementing your point of view without consensus.


I'm not sure how it's better. If any decision is made, we can always change the 
code, but just sitting with our hands folded and doing nothing doesn't look 
like a good idea.

> Re deep value model: the core of the issue is that you propose to represent 
> dates as the "original" string. Denny and I have clarified that we don't find 
> this an acceptable representation for dates.


OK, but what I still miss is what you consider acceptable that would be able to 
represent current data. If we have date of -02-31 in the data, what you 
propose for the RDF data to contain? What is it's marked as Julian date - what 
should the data contain? What if it is marked with calendar that is neither 
Gregorian nor Julian?

> There is no upgrade path from this implementation to the one we actually want.


Why not? If the format changes, you can update your data pretty easily by 
removing old value nodes/triples and replacing them with new ones. That 
provided somebody would actually use our beta data and get deep enough so it 
would be a problem it time it takes us to make a decision. Which, if that is 
going to take so long time, is yet another argument for not blocking on it.

> Thus we can as well work on the hypothesis that dates are in ISO 8601:2000 as 
> originally intended.


I understand that neither BlazeGraph not Virtuozo do not actually interpret the 
dates as ISO 8601:2000. We need them to understand our dates. I'm not sure how 
you propose to solve this? Or am I mistaken in interpreting Jan's conslusions 
and they are ISO 8601:2000?

@Lydia_Pintscher could you clarify what you mean by "those dates"? We want to 
represent all dates, I think, so are you proposing to just ignore the triples 
with "weird" dates? That would mean the data would look as if these dates do 
not exist - which may confuse some queries (e.g person with no date of death is 
considered alive, but it's not the same as somebody having the date of death as 
April 31th 4BCE).


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T84902: deploy haedus and capella with os for orientdb testing

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looks like this is completed, anything else left @joe ?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T91517: Revision slave does not belong to entity Q139

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Change 199783 merged by jenkins-bot:
Improve exception about an unexpected entity id in WikiPageEntityRevisionLookup

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/199783


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94143: Unstyled "Edit links" when previewing a page

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Change 200539 merged by jenkins-bot:
Include style for "edit links" for page preview action

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T93106: GSoC proposal for Wikivoyage PageBanner extension

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93885: Implement a limit for entities accessed via arbitrary access features and mark as expensive

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@daniel Thanks for the info!

So it would be possible to do limited citations then, but not full citations. 
For instance, the publication name would be free from the journal, but not the 
location or journal editors. For authors, a typical citation template has 
separate fields for first name and last name, which wouldn't be included.

But you could probably do something not half bad with just the publication 
title and full author name since those don't count towards the limit.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93127: Setup WikidataPageBanner extension repository on Gerrit

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The repository for wikidata pagebanner extension has been created and 
initialized with extension:BoilerPlate
See 
https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FWikidataPageBanner.git
Shall this task be closed?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93885: Implement a limit for entities accessed via arbitrary access features and mark as expensive

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@mvolz: also note that as long as only the title and local page name of the 
entity are accessed, special optimizations apply. Such access would not count 
towards the arbitrary access limit.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93885: Implement a limit for entities accessed via arbitrary access features and mark as expensive

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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93885#1162819, @Mvolz wrote:

> Just another use case for your consideration, but there's been some 
> discussion regarding using wikidata inside citation templates.
>
> So on a worse case scenario like Barack Obama, you might see > 200 citations 
> there.
>
> It gets even worse when you consider that each citation might contain fields 
> from multiple entities. For instance, if you are citing a journal article, 
> you might need information about
>
> 1. The article entity
> 2. The journal entity
> 3. Entity data about every linked author or other creator
>
>   In the case of requesting data about the author entities, this could go bad 
> rather quickly. Assuming an average of 10 linked entities per paper (high, 
> but some papers have 50 authors or so), you could easily see something like 
> 2000 (200 * 10) entity requests in a page.


For now we will also have an own limit just for the entities access and that 
will be well below 500.

I can see that there are some use cases that require accessing an immense 
amount of entities in one way or another, but that's not inside the scope of 
arbitrary access as it's implemented now. We will have a solution for that at 
some point (see also what Daniel said about lists, as that's kind of related), 
but that solution will not involve loading the whole entity (which is what 
arbitrary access is about right now) but rather be a more specialized access 
functionality (that would eg. only return Statements with a certain PropertyId 
from a list of Items).


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93885: Implement a limit for entities accessed via arbitrary access features and mark as expensive

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Just another use case for your consideration, but there's been some discussion 
regarding using wikidata inside citation templates.

So on a worse case scenario like Barack Obama, you might see > 200 citations 
there.

It gets even worse when you consider that each citation might contain fields 
from multiple entities. For instance, if you are citing a journal article, you 
might need information about

1. The article entity
2. The journal entity
3. Entity data about every linked author or other creator

In the case of requesting data about the author entities, this could go bad 
rather quickly. Assuming an average of 10 linked entities per paper (high, but 
some papers have 50 authors or so), you could easily see something like 2000 
(200 * 10) entity requests in a page.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T94416: Don't use 'enwiki' as site id for test2wiki and testwiki

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  We should make sure that we can add test2wiki and testwiki as site links on 
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  this would allow the dispatcher to work properly.  right now, the dispatcher 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T66084: Time data-type inconsistently zero-pads year value (dates earlier than year 1000?)

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Please fix documentation on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListDatatypes


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T90893: After I undo a description in the "term" box, the item page shows version of description before undo

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Claimed] T92515: Implement each "flavor" of RDF in a separate class.

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I'm working on this, and I have very little issues with cross-dependencies. The 
different aspects come apart nicely. Will try to get this finished this week.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T89002: Track multi-lingual label usage

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T94163: Fix failed Wikidata browsertests Jenkins job

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93057: add eu_page_touched field to wbc_entity_usage_tracking

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T94224: Enable header/footer generation with RdfWriter without buffering full output.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94404: boost weight of suggestions based on number of labels

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It'll probably continue to be on top because it has so many sitelinks and 
roughly as many labels. But at least it will no longer not be on the first page.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T89300: "Add qualifier" button should automatically focus text box

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T92288: Increase width of the eu_aspect column to allow inclusion of language codes.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T89002: Track multi-lingual label usage

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T94163: Fix failed Wikidata browsertests Jenkins job

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T93057: add eu_page_touched field to wbc_entity_usage_tracking

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T93853: "Created a new item" edit summary when editing via new Special:SetLabelDescriptionAliases page

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93057: add eu_page_touched field to wbc_entity_usage_tracking

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94404: boost weight of suggestions based on number of labels

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@Sjoerddebruin  https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6581097 has numerous labels but 
no site links


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T92288: Increase width of the eu_aspect column to allow inclusion of language codes.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94404: boost weight of suggestions based on number of labels

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Yeah, but that's English. I'm talking about when in search in Dutch for "man" 
(the Dutch version of male), will it appear on top or will the island be on top?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T92280: Make [Formatter|Parser]Options nullable/optional everywhere

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T66084: Time data-type inconsistently zero-pads year value (dates earlier than year 1000?)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94404: boost weight of suggestions based on number of labels

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For things like male there is quite a difference. 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6581097 has 0 sitelinks but ~90 labels.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93864: Focus not in main snak value after selecting a property with mouse

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94404: boost weight of suggestions based on number of labels

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Hm, I don't think there is much difference between the number of sitelinks and 
the number of labels of the known queries that cause problems.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T86530: Tracking: replace wb_terms table with more specialized mechanisms for terms

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T94404: boost weight of suggestions based on number of labels

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For reference, switching entity selector to elastic is tracked as 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86530


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T94404: boost weight of suggestions based on number of labels

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93864: Focus not in main snak value after selecting a property with mouse

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Change 199910 merged by jenkins-bot:
Fix focus on value field on property select

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T92280: Make [Formatter|Parser]Options nullable/optional everywhere

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all linked changes have been merged


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T92280: Make [Formatter|Parser]Options nullable/optional everywhere

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Change 199858 merged by Daniel Kinzler:
Update data-values/interfaces to 0.1.5

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T94163: Fix failed Wikidata browsertests Jenkins job

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Merged] T87410: Link translated articles with other languages through Wikidata automatically

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T92831: Date and some other type of values sometimes cut off when saving

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94064: Date of +0000-01-01 is allowed but undefined in wikibase but is not allowed in xsd:dateTime as implemented by blazegraph

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> @mkroetzsch I already listed a few of the tools that implement XSD 1.0 style 
> BCE years and I read your answer as to say that you know of no tools that 
> implement XSD 1.1 style BCE years.


Then you misread my answer. Almost all tools that exist today use the 2000 
version of the ISO standard. A prominent example is ECMAScript, and thus all 
JavaScript implementations, and virtually every JavaScript timeline 
implementation. See 
http://www.ecma-international.org/ecma-262/5.1/#sec-15.9.1.15 and the examples 
in the following section to see this. RDF tools are an understandable 
exception, not because people there think one should cling to the old standard, 
but because RDF 1.1 was only standardised in 2014. It is natural that existing 
RDF implementations have more pressing upgrade work to do than to fix BCE date 
handling. I am sure they will all move to the new standard in due course.

It is worth noting that all of the ECMAScript documents use "ISO 8601" to refer 
to "ISO 8601:2000", just like we did in the Wikidata data model specification. 
It seems that most people are not confused by this.

Having dug up ECMA from the Web, I can now also safely say that JSON exports 
should definitely use ISO 8601:2000 dates.

The new situation therefore is: ISO, W3C, and all JavaScript implementations 
vs. a subset of the developers in the WMDE office. I am very unhappy about the 
amount of my time I have to put into digging up for you what the rest of the 
world is thinking. It's a nice position to put yourself in, asking others to 
find specific arguments against your position and assuming you are right if 
they don't have the time or knowledge to do it. Now I am myself far from being 
an expert in JavaScript or even in all details of SPARQL 1.1, but if I don't 
know something I try to find out before taking part in discussions like this.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T93864: Focus not in main snak value after selecting a property with mouse

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T89300: "Add qualifier" button should automatically focus text box

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T89300: "Add qualifier" button should automatically focus text box

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Change 199962 merged by Daniel Kinzler:
Fix focus when clicking "add qualifier"

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/199962


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94404: boost weight of suggestions based on number of labels

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Good point. Adapted the description accordingly.


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