[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T96579: Deploy Wikidata Query 0.0.1 Release in labs

2015-05-04 Thread Smalyshev
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T98037: Release Wikidata Query 0.0.1 software package

2015-05-04 Thread ksmith
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  This task is to create a package containing the 0.0.1 software. Actually 
deploying it in labs (or anywhere else) is a separate task.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T98037: Release Wikidata Query 0.0.1 software package

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T96579: Deploy Wikidata Query 0.0.1 Release in labs

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T98039: Include all incoming redirects in JSON representation of entities

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T96364: Create a PHP service interface for accessing entity redirects

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T98039: Include all incoming redirects in JSON representation of entities

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Incoming redirects act as alias-IDs for entities. They should be available in 
the entity's JSON representation, at least in some cases:
  * internal (DB): no
  * API output: optional
  * JSON dumps: not in entity, but as separate non-entity entries
  * EntityData: always (or at least per default)
  
  Caveat: Structural inconsistency between dumps and EntityData. For JSON 
dumps, it's more sensible (and performant) to have redirects as separate 
entries, while for EntityData, we don't really have a place outside the entity 
itself where we could put the redirect info.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T98041: Create HtmlTermRenderer able to render TermFallback instances.

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Currently, EntityIdHtmlLinkFormatter implements rendering for labels with 
fallback and a visible fallback hint. We need the label rendering functionality 
without the linking for label and description in the top area of entity pages. 
  
  The relevant functionality could be factored out of EntityIdHtmlLinkFormatter 
into a new HtmlTermRenderer class. That class would allow the main text to be 
accessed separately from the hint part, to allow the main part to be linked 
by EntityIdHtmlLinkFormatter. 
  
  Alternatively, HtmlTermRenderer could accept an optional link target for 
rendering the term.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T77925: Wikidata PageBanner extension

2015-05-04 Thread Jdlrobson
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We should reserve the name at least and then decide on end of project - we may 
result in one extension or 2 extensions... (I'm not sure how complex the 
Wikidata aspect will be :-))


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T68580: Better support for exact values in Quantity DataType

2015-05-04 Thread Gareth
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T96590: Include additional entity IDs (redirects) in entities returned from the API.

2015-05-04 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T68067: Support Redirects between Items (tracking)

2015-05-04 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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(redirects) in entities returned from the API..

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93767: Include redirects in RDF dumps

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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@Smalyshev: not exactly. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69033 calls for 
redirects to item X to be included in the output for item X. This ticket asks 
for all redirects to be present in RDF dumps. Logically, 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69033 would imply that, but the straight 
forward implementation would be very inefficient (it would mean looking up 
redirects for each entity). Instead, we should omit that lookup in dump mode, 
and process redirects as they appear in the ID stream that drives the dump 
output.

I'll edit the description to make the distinction clear.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T93767: Include redirects in RDF dumps

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93767: Include redirects in RDF dumps

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T96364: Create a PHP service interface for accessing entity redirects

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T85103: create API that shows which entities changed since time/revision x

2015-05-04 Thread Smalyshev
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I think we still need this one (or maybe different one?). The main problem 
still existing is that recentchanges is based on time only, not revision. We 
kind of work around being unable to specify the revision, since trying the same 
update more than once is not doing much harm (we don't do much when we discover 
we already have latest revid) but it's be nicer if we had proper API that 
allows to tell revid where we stopped. Timestamp is not a good ID for revisions 
since many revisions can happen at the same time.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T97891: setHTMLTitle to empty string or false should prevent rendering of H1 on page

2015-05-04 Thread Jdlrobson
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It can be hacked around so not urgent but I keep hitting this bug  in all the 
projects I have worked on. It's something that should be done in core as there 
is clearly a need. Do we have an appropriate project for skin architecture 
@matmarex?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T69033: Include redirects in RDF rendering.

2015-05-04 Thread gerritbot
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Change 208660 merged by jenkins-bot:
Include redirect info in output from Special:EntityData

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/208660


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T69033: Include redirects in RDF rendering.

2015-05-04 Thread gerritbot
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Change 208667 merged by jenkins-bot:
Omit meta-info if flavor=dump is used on Special:EntityData

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/208667


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T87237: RFC: Possible redesign of the EntityTermsProvider interface

2015-05-04 Thread Bene
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No update since two months now. What is the current state of this discussion. 
Did somebody finally make a decision?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T97706: Remove EntityDeserializer

2015-05-04 Thread Bene
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T85951: Implement incremental updates

2015-05-04 Thread JanZerebecki
JanZerebecki reopened blocking task T85103: have API that shows which entities 
changed since a specific change instead of time as Open.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T85103: have API that shows which entities changed since a specific change instead of time

2015-05-04 Thread JanZerebecki
JanZerebecki changed the title from create API that shows which entities 
changed since time/revision x to have API that shows which entities changed 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T97891: setHTMLTitle to empty string or false should prevent rendering of H1 on page

2015-05-04 Thread Jdlrobson
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T77982: Implement Unit Selector widget

2015-05-04 Thread Bene
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T98052: Display labels of deleted items

2015-05-04 Thread Addshore
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  I haven't discussed this with anyone else but working as an admin it is 
something that I have noticed over and over again.
  
  In mediawiki the content of a page is easily identifiable using the title of 
said deleted page. This is not the case in Wikidata however as the title of the 
page is simply the items ID, eg. Q1234.
  
  Upon deletion of an item it is impossible to know what that item was about 
unless you, as an admin, go and review the deleted revisions of said item.
  
  It would be great if wikidata stored the labels of deleted items outside of 
the text body so that once deleted they could still be retreived by Mediawiki 
and used for redlinks etc.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T85103: have API that shows which entities changed since a specific change instead of time

2015-05-04 Thread JanZerebecki
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I think supporting revision for recentchanges would mean two queries, first one 
to find the rc_id. So how about rc_id instead? ( 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Recentchanges_table )

Now it seems that the api already supports that, via rccontinue. Example: 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=querylist=recentchangesformat=jsonrcdir=olderrcprop=timestamp|idsrclimit=50rccontinue=20150504185236|214796318rawcontinue=

The format of it is timestamp|rc_id, but the API is designed for that to be 
opaque, so I don't know if we may just rely on it.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T96364: Create a PHP service interface for accessing entity redirects

2015-05-04 Thread gerritbot
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Change 208715 had a related patch set uploaded (by Daniel Kinzler):
Make EntityPerPage::listEntities optionally include redirects

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/208715


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93767: Include redirects in RDF dumps

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Change 208716 had a related patch set uploaded (by Daniel Kinzler):
Include redirects in RDF dumps

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/208716


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T98052: Display labels of deleted items

2015-05-04 Thread hoo
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While I can see the point, I'm inclined to say that we shouldn't do this as the 
benefit is rather small but there are several points against this in my opinion:

1. Most Items that are still linked from somewhere should be redirects, not 
deleted
2. How would you then manage to fully remove a label (eg. in case of spam, 
vandalism, ...) without having to manually go through all languages? Not all 
set labels are obviously visible all the time (based on the user's language 
settings).
3. Implementing this is probably going to take a significant amount of time, 
also we'll need to adopt label lookups etc. to this.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T93767: Include redirects in RDF dumps

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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picking this up, since it comes naturally with 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96364


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Claimed] T93767: Include redirects in RDF dumps

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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patch already done


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T85103: have API that shows which entities changed since a specific change instead of time

2015-05-04 Thread Smalyshev
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Hmm, if timestamp|rc_id works then it should be enough for us. I'm not sure if 
it's safe to use rccontinue while not actually continuing but if it is, then it 
should work. I'll check.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T69033: Include redirects in RDF rendering.

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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NOTE: above patches only include info about redirects that were followed to the 
data. Including info about ALL redirects is still pending. Perhaps we should 
split the ticket.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T96364: Create a PHP service interface for accessing entity redirects

2015-05-04 Thread gerritbot
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Change 208715 merged by jenkins-bot:
Make EntityPerPage::listEntities optionally include redirects

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93767: Include redirects in RDF dumps

2015-05-04 Thread gerritbot
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Change 208716 merged by jenkins-bot:
Include redirects in RDF dumps

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2015-05-04 Thread Smalyshev
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T97345: [housekeeping] Delete wdq2 namespace in Blazegraph on db01

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T90115: BlazeGraph Security Review

2015-05-04 Thread Beebs.systap
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90115#1259101, @csteipp wrote:

 So we can close this ticket, can we confirm / finish the following?

 - @Beebs.systap, is there a special mailing list we need to be on to get 
 notified of security issues? Is someone from Ops subscribed?


Is there an OPS email alias that should be added?   We generally do announce to 
the developers list, but do push out specific notices directly in some cases.

 If any of that's already happened, let me know. Thanks!





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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T91073: Update Wikidata for ApiResult rewrite

2015-05-04 Thread Spage
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Do these changes need to be backported to 1.25, since Overhaul ApiResult 
change I7b37295e https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/I7b37295e8862b18,n,z 
(gerrit 182858 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/182858/) was backported?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T96713: Updater gives up when Blazegraph does not respond

2015-05-04 Thread gerritbot
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Change 208826 had a related patch set uploaded (by Smalyshev):
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96713: add retries in HTTP calls

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/208826


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T90115: BlazeGraph Security Review

2015-05-04 Thread Smalyshev
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@csteipp: no, the only thing stored in last revision ID and time. 
You can see example here: 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q1.ttl?flavor=dump

  data:Q1 schema:version 214221701^^xsd:integer ;
schema:dateModified 2015-05-04T05:54:17Z^^xsd:dateTime ;

This is the metadata that is stored for entity Q1. The rest is current entity 
data.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T68580: Better support for exact values in Quantity DataType

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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@DSGalaktos ...that being said, I agree that we should make the precision 
(implicit or explicit) more visible and understandable.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T96364: Create a PHP service interface for accessing entity redirects

2015-05-04 Thread hoo
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T76230: data quality and trust

2015-05-04 Thread hoo
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T55247: History and diff pages should show labels of properties and items in edit summaries

2015-05-04 Thread hoo
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T96925: Document various interesting SPARQL examples

2015-05-04 Thread gerritbot
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Change 208652 merged by jenkins-bot:
Add SPARQL examples from #T96925

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2015-05-04 Thread Smalyshev
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T96713: Updater gives up when Blazegraph does not respond

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T55247: History and diff pages should show labels of properties and items in edit summaries

2015-05-04 Thread hoo
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T90115: BlazeGraph Security Review

2015-05-04 Thread csteipp
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So we can close this ticket, can we confirm / finish the following?

- @Beebs.systap, is there a special mailing list we need to be on to get 
notified of security issues? Is someone from Ops subscribed?
- @Joe, can put the boxes on a dedicated subnet and make sure the other 
mediawiki infrastructure isn't directly routable from there?
- Someone needs to check that revision deletion is working correctly.
- @Manybubbles, I'm assuming you worked out all of the settings we need to set, 
and (maybe) implemented throttles. Can you confirm?

If any of that's already happened, let me know. Thanks!


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T90115: BlazeGraph Security Review

2015-05-04 Thread csteipp
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T43686: Ability to filter recent changes and watchlist on Wikidata

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T68580: Better support for exact values in Quantity DataType

2015-05-04 Thread Smalyshev
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So should there be additional type - like exact integer - for exact values? 
Floats are more complicated as computer floats are inherently inexact but there 
could be a value of exactly 0.5... OTOH, we don't even know how to represent a 
value of exactly 1/6. But at least integers are a frequent use case. It's 
possible not to make it +/- 0, but it's completely unintuitive and hard to use. 
Maybe explicit precision (or something like with years?) would be better.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Merged] T97907: Page moves don't get processed to Wikidata

2015-05-04 Thread hoo
hoo closed this task as a duplicate of T97939: Jobrunner OOMs in jobchron 
before sending the redis commands to undelay jobs.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T90115: BlazeGraph Security Review

2015-05-04 Thread Smalyshev
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Query runtime caps are in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97095. Not sure 
what is the status with memory and if runaway query can break that. Separating 
read from write queries should also be easy - all reads go through GET, all 
writes go through POST, so if we limit POST access via some kind of proxy, we 
should be fine.

Since we do not save any revision but the last one, there should not be 
problems with deleted revisions - as soon as the change happens, the data is 
updated to match the current state of affairs, and the old state is forgotten.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T90115: BlazeGraph Security Review

2015-05-04 Thread csteipp
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90115#1259141, @Smalyshev wrote:

 Since we do not save any revision but the last one, there should not be 
 problems with deleted revisions - as soon as the change happens, the data is 
 updated to match the current state of affairs, and the old state is forgotten.


Cool. Do you store metadata like username / edit summary?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T68580: Better support for exact values in Quantity DataType

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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@DSGalaktos not for some reason, but because it's the scientific standard to 
not assume absolute accuracy per default.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_precision: In science and 
engineering, convention dictates that unless a margin of error is explicitly 
stated, the number of significant figures used in the presentation of data 
should be limited to what is warranted by the precision of those data.

And from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Significance_arithmetic:  If a 
calculation is done without analysis of the uncertainty involved, a result that 
is written with too many significant figures can be taken to imply a higher 
precision than is known, and a result that is written with too few significant 
figures results in an avoidable loss of precision.

If we want to be able to do any arithmetics with the Quantities (like unit 
conversion), we should not assume absolute certainty per default, since it 
would introduce false precision.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T97160: Wikidata Query: Command line arguments that take multiple values should also support commas

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T68580: Better support for exact values in Quantity DataType

2015-05-04 Thread kaldari
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I also don't understand why there is any margin of uncertainty by default (or 
why that margin is +/-1). The default should be to assume that the number is 
correct. Most populations, for example, are from censuses and are exact 
numbers. While it's true there are some numbers that shouldn't be exact by 
default (elevation?), I can't think of a single case where it makes sense for 
the margin of uncertainty to be +/-1. Surely +/-0 is a better default.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T68580: Better support for exact values in Quantity DataType

2015-05-04 Thread daniel
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@kaldari: The Quantity data type is mainly intended for measured values.  These 
are never absolutely exact. This notion becomes crucial when applying unit 
conversion (we'll have that Really Soon Now TM): If a building is said to be 
281 feet tall, and we convert this to meters for display, the result should not 
be 85.6488 - that would imply a level of accuracy not present in the original 
value. Conventionally, 281 feet tall means 281 feet +/- 1 (or +/- 0.5  -- but 
that's a different discussion). With that assumption, we can say that the 
building is 56.7 meters tall, +/- 0.3088. This results in one significant digit 
after the decimal point to be included in the output, reflecting the level of 
accuracy in of original value correctly.

The case is different for exact counts, like the numbers of electrons in an 
atom, or the number of seats in a parliament. But in the bigger picture, these 
are the exception. The impression is distorted by the fact that we sadly still 
don't have unit support.

Introducing a separate data type for exact counts (not population!) would allow 
us to avoid the assumption of uncertainty for properties that typically have 
exact values.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T93767: Include redirects in RDF dumps

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T93767: Include redirects in RDF dumps

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T72209: Create a special page to query for badges

2015-05-04 Thread He7d3r
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Can someone reply, please?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T50143: Implement complete RDF mapping for entities (tracking)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T96364: Create a PHP service interface for accessing entity redirects

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T98039: Include all incoming redirects in JSON representation of entities

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T68580: Better support for exact values in Quantity DataType

2015-05-04 Thread DSGalaktos
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@danial: I don’t think ±1 is for some reason a better default for measured 
values than any other (±0.5, ±10, whatever). I think it would make more sense 
to mandate an //explicit// accuracy (with a helpful error message if missing, 
and possibly populating the text field with “±0”).


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T97566: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items

2015-05-04 Thread Deskana
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566#1256581, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:

 - Agree that usage information should not go into the descriptions. Existing 
 descriptions should be rewritten.


This solution would remove a use case which is currently supported in Wikidata, 
albeit badly, so this does not seem like a good solution to me.

 - Agree that usage descriptions should always go in brackets and that they 
 can be discarded by clients who don't need them.


This would necessitate duplicative code in all API clients, so also does not 
seem like a good solution. That said, an alternative to this would be for 
Wikidata to also emit a sanitised description via the API, which performs this 
stripping on the server, thus reducing code duplication whilst essentially 
performing the same function. Exposing such functionality in the PageTerms API 
module would likely not be hard.

 My feeling is that we are talking about a very small number of items here. 
 (Happy to be proven wrong.)


I think you're right about that, although I do not have numbers to back up my 
statement either. :-)

 I am not going to spend a lot of development time and add additional 
 complexity, maintenance effort and so on for a very marginal number of items 
 when the issue can be solved much easier and with less complexity for 
 everyone.


If a team the the WMF badly needs this, they can consider assigning their own 
engineers to tackle the problem. Ah, the beauty of open source! They would 
undoubtedly appreciate your guidance and domain knowledge as to what you 
believe the correct solution to be before they can do that. :-)

If the Readership Team chose to tackle this themselves, which of the proposed 
solutions would you prefer they implement?


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