[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T146874: When no match is found in one property/item lookup field, "No match was found" is shown for other lookup fields

2016-09-28 Thread Nikki
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TASK DESCRIPTIONTo reproduce:


Start adding a new statement
Enter a string of random characters in the property field to cause "No match was found" to be displayed
Start adding another new statement


Another method:


Start adding a new statement
Select P31 and enter a string of random characters in the value field to cause "No match was found" to be displayed
Start adding a qualifier


Expected result: "No match was found" is displayed only once and only for the field it actually applies to.

Actual result: "No match was found" is displayed at the bottom of the search results for all other lookup fields. If you then cause no results to be returned for another field, you will get two "No match was found" messages (and the more fields you do it with, the more "No match was found" messages you'll get :)).

This appears to happen for any additional lookup field when editing (property or item, main part of the statement, qualifier or reference) but it doesn't seem to affect the search box at the top right.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146874EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NikkiCc: Nikki, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145412: Review & work on Cognate extension

2016-09-28 Thread Addshore
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In T145412#2670625, @daniel wrote:
I just realized: When an entry is added to or removed from the central table, all pages in the table with the same key (including the added or removed entry) need to trigger a purge for the respective wiki page.

There should probably be a ticket for this :)


Ahh yes, there should be! I will make some sub tickets today!TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145412EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: AddshoreCc: gerritbot, Darkdadaah, WMDE-leszek, Lydia_Pintscher, gabriel-wmde, JAnD, daniel, Addshore, Aklapper, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145412: Review & work on Cognate extension

2016-09-28 Thread Addshore
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In T145412#2670778, @Darkdadaah wrote:
Maybe I read the code wrong, but we don't want to normalize the case of the words, e.g. "Clause" and "clause": the interwiki from [[de:Clause]] to [[ar:clause]] is wrong.


Hmm, okay!
I'm starting to think that an initial implementation should perhaps not normalize at all and then take on cases on a case by case basis?
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T145412: Review & work on Cognate extension

2016-09-28 Thread Addshore
Addshore created subtask T146877: Purge pages on other wikis when cognate entry is added or removed..
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T146877: Purge pages on other wikis when cognate entry is added or removed.

2016-09-28 Thread Addshore
Addshore created this task.Addshore added projects: Wikidata, WMDE-QWERTY-Team-Experimental-Sprint, Patch-For-Review, User-Addshore.Herald removed a project: Patch-For-Review.
TASK DESCRIPTIONWhen an entry is added to or removed from the central table, all pages in the table with the same key (including the added or removed entry) need to trigger a purge for the respective wiki page.

Taken from https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145412#2670625TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146877EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: AddshoreCc: Aklapper, daniel, JAnD, gabriel-wmde, Lydia_Pintscher, WMDE-leszek, Darkdadaah, gerritbot, Addshore, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T146878: Cognate Sorting of language links.

2016-09-28 Thread Addshore
Addshore created this task.Addshore added projects: Wikidata, WMDE-QWERTY-Team-Experimental-Sprint, Patch-For-Review, User-Addshore.Herald removed a project: Patch-For-Review.
TASK DESCRIPTIONSorting of language links. We may want a separate extension for that.

This can likely be factored out of WikibaseTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146878EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: AddshoreCc: Aklapper, daniel, JAnD, gabriel-wmde, Lydia_Pintscher, WMDE-leszek, Darkdadaah, gerritbot, Addshore, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T145412: Review & work on Cognate extension

2016-09-28 Thread Addshore
Addshore created subtask T146878: Cognate Sorting of language links..
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T145412: Review & work on Cognate extension

2016-09-28 Thread Addshore
Addshore created subtask T146879: Normalize titles to keys.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T146879: Normalize titles to keys

2016-09-28 Thread Addshore
Addshore created this task.Addshore added projects: Wikidata, WMDE-QWERTY-Team-Experimental-Sprint, Patch-For-Review, User-Addshore.Herald removed a project: Patch-For-Review.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T146879: Normalize titles to keys

2016-09-28 Thread Addshore
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EDIT DETAILSSee discussion at

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145412#2670306
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145412#2670778
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142158: Job mediawiki-extensions-php55 frequently fails due to "Segmentation fault"

2016-09-28 Thread daniel
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Thank you for looking into this @Paladox!TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142158EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: danielCc: aude, Addshore, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Stashbot, Jay8g, hashar, gerritbot, EBernhardson, matmarex, KartikMistry, Nikerabbit, daniel, hoo, bd808, greg, Paladox, dcausse, Legoktm, TerraCodes, Jdforrester-WMF, Luke081515, Krinkle, Aklapper, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, zeljkofilipin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145412: Review & work on Cognate extension

2016-09-28 Thread daniel
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In T145412#2673520, @Addshore wrote:
I'm starting to think that an initial implementation should perhaps not normalize at all and then take on cases on a case by case basis?
 @Lydia_Pintscher @daniel @WMDE-leszek thoughts?


Normalization should be limited to what is absolutely needed. This is not a search index where you want to find as many sensible matches as possible. The match needs to be exact, except for a very few cases dictated by differing local policies, such as useing "`"  instead of "'".

A baseline implementation doesn't need to support normalization. But I do not think we can deploy without it, simply because Cognate would then not really work for French Wiktionary, which is one of the most active Wiktionaries, and one of the most vocal stakeholder groups regarding Wikidata integration of Wiktionary.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145412EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Addshore, danielCc: gerritbot, Darkdadaah, WMDE-leszek, Lydia_Pintscher, gabriel-wmde, JAnD, daniel, Addshore, Aklapper, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145412: Review & work on Cognate extension

2016-09-28 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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In T145412#2673520, @Addshore wrote:
Hmm, okay!
 I'm starting to think that an initial implementation should perhaps not normalize at all and then take on cases on a case by case basis?
 @Lydia_Pintscher @daniel @WMDE-leszek thoughts?


Yeah that sound sensible by now.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145412EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Addshore, Lydia_PintscherCc: gerritbot, Darkdadaah, WMDE-leszek, Lydia_Pintscher, gabriel-wmde, JAnD, daniel, Addshore, Aklapper, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145412: Review & work on Cognate extension

2016-09-28 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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In T145412#2673669, @daniel wrote:
A baseline implementation doesn't need to support normalization. But I do not think we can deploy without it, simply because Cognate would then not really work for French Wiktionary, which is one of the most active Wiktionaries, and one of the most vocal stakeholder groups regarding Wikidata integration of Wiktionary.


That also makes sense. Do we have 1 or 2 normalization steps we can do to cover most of the French cases?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145412EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Addshore, Lydia_PintscherCc: gerritbot, Darkdadaah, WMDE-leszek, Lydia_Pintscher, gabriel-wmde, JAnD, daniel, Addshore, Aklapper, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T146792: Remove (seemingly) unused wb-status page prop (EntityContent::getEntityStatus)

2016-09-28 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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What data is it holding?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146792EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Lydia_Pintscher, thiemowmde, Addshore, daniel, aude, Aklapper, hoo, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T146879: Normalize titles to keys

2016-09-28 Thread gerritbot
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Change 313003 had a related patch set uploaded (by Addshore):
Add basic normalization for titles => keys

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T146879: Normalize titles to keys

2016-09-28 Thread gerritbot
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142158: Job mediawiki-extensions-php55 frequently fails due to "Segmentation fault"

2016-09-28 Thread Paladox
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Your welcome :)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142158EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: PaladoxCc: aude, Addshore, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Stashbot, Jay8g, hashar, gerritbot, EBernhardson, matmarex, KartikMistry, Nikerabbit, daniel, hoo, bd808, greg, Paladox, dcausse, Legoktm, TerraCodes, Jdforrester-WMF, Luke081515, Krinkle, Aklapper, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, zeljkofilipin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142158: Job mediawiki-extensions-php55 frequently fails due to "Segmentation fault"

2016-09-28 Thread gerritbot
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Change 313051 merged by jenkins-bot:
Disable garbage collection for mw-phpunit.sh too

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142158: Job mediawiki-extensions-php55 frequently fails due to "Segmentation fault"

2016-09-28 Thread Stashbot
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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-releng) [2016-09-28T10:43:23Z]  Updating slave scripts for "Disable garbage collection for mw-phpunit.sh"  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313051  T142158TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142158EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StashbotCc: aude, Addshore, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Stashbot, Jay8g, hashar, gerritbot, EBernhardson, matmarex, KartikMistry, Nikerabbit, daniel, hoo, bd808, greg, Paladox, dcausse, Legoktm, TerraCodes, Jdforrester-WMF, Luke081515, Krinkle, Aklapper, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, zeljkofilipin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142158: Job mediawiki-extensions-php55 frequently fails due to "Segmentation fault"

2016-09-28 Thread Stashbot
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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-releng) [2016-09-28T10:44:54Z]  CI updating all mwext-Wikibase* jenkins jobs for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/313056/  T142158TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142158EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StashbotCc: aude, Addshore, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Stashbot, Jay8g, hashar, gerritbot, EBernhardson, matmarex, KartikMistry, Nikerabbit, daniel, hoo, bd808, greg, Paladox, dcausse, Legoktm, TerraCodes, Jdforrester-WMF, Luke081515, Krinkle, Aklapper, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, zeljkofilipin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142158: Job mediawiki-extensions-php55 frequently fails due to "Segmentation fault"

2016-09-28 Thread gerritbot
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Change 313056 merged by jenkins-bot:
Disable garbage collection for wikibase tests

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142158: Job mediawiki-extensions-php55 frequently fails due to "Segmentation fault"

2016-09-28 Thread Paladox
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@daniel and @hoo the wikibase tests should work now.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142158EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: PaladoxCc: aude, Addshore, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Stashbot, Jay8g, hashar, gerritbot, EBernhardson, matmarex, KartikMistry, Nikerabbit, daniel, hoo, bd808, greg, Paladox, dcausse, Legoktm, TerraCodes, Jdforrester-WMF, Luke081515, Krinkle, Aklapper, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Liudvikas, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, zeljkofilipin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong

2016-09-28 Thread GerardM
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Hoi,
I am a member of the Language Committee of the Wikimedia Foundation. It is
stated policy that we do not accept macro languages. Lydia does read the
comments and she knows of its existence, its policies and for me it is not
personal. Is it for you?
Thanks,

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong

2016-09-28 Thread Nikki
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Could you point me to the "stated policy" you mention? The only one I can find is https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_proposal_policy which is specifically about starting new projects and doesn't even say anything about macrolanguages.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137810EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NikkiCc: jhsoby, Nikki, thiemowmde, Liuxinyu970226, Lydia_Pintscher, GerardM, Aklapper, Zppix, Popolon, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T146691: Mispositioned tooltip prevents adding a qualifier on Wikidata

2016-09-28 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher added subscribers: adrianheine, Jan_Dittrich.Lydia_Pintscher merged a task: T139592: [Bug] Editing view has formatting issues in german language (maybe others too).
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Merged] T139592: [Bug] Editing view has formatting issues in german language (maybe others too)

2016-09-28 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher closed this task as a duplicate of T146691: Mispositioned tooltip prevents adding a qualifier on Wikidata.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T90492: [Task] Make Wikibase Repo work with a custom File collection, not only Wikimedia Commons

2016-09-28 Thread daniel
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EDIT DETAILSFor the Wikibase repo, the URL of Wikimedia Commons is hardcoded into `extensions/ValueView/lib/jquery.ui/jquery.ui.commonssuggester.js` and `lib/includes/formatters/CommonsLinkFormatter.php`, as well as in `repo/includes/CachingCommonsMediaFileNameLookup.php`TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90492EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: despens, danielCc: Steinsplitter, Snaterlicious, adrianheine, Ricordisamoa, gerritbot, daniel, Aklapper, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T90492: [Task] Make Wikibase Repo work with a custom File collection, not only Wikimedia Commons

2016-09-28 Thread daniel
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Relevant conversation on mediawiki.org: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tcavf3pq7asuvp4kTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90492EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: despens, danielCc: Steinsplitter, Snaterlicious, adrianheine, Ricordisamoa, gerritbot, daniel, Aklapper, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T146691: Mispositioned tooltip prevents adding a qualifier on Wikidata

2016-09-28 Thread Charlie_WMDE
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142376: A gentle introduction to the Wikidata Query Service

2016-09-28 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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I just went over the text. Looks good!
Some remarks:


There is quite a lot of specific stuff that we will need to adapt as the query service evolves - especially in the UI. It would be good to do a check which of those very specific things really need to be in there. For example it explains step by step how to get to the more cats query example. But it is so specific that it will break the moment someone removes or renames the example.
At the beginning the intro to Wikidata imho should be rethought and ideally linked to the generic Wikidata intro.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142376: A gentle introduction to the Wikidata Query Service

2016-09-28 Thread Jonas
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Can I edit stuff there?
There are some broken links etc.

At point 'Manually edit the query' I would rather show how code completion worksTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142376EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: johl, JonasCc: gabriel-wmde, Deskana, MelodyKramer, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, TerraCodes, Aklapper, Jonas, Lydia_Pintscher, Smalyshev, johl, mschwarzer, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Manybubbles, Mbch331, Jay8g, Spage___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T146637: Wikidata 2016 Q4 goals

2016-09-28 Thread matej_suchanek
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T146835: "Good article" star icon in interlanguage links should be less prominent

2016-09-28 Thread matej_suchanek
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Doesn't each wiki define their own CSS rules for badges (and even if they want to show them)?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146835EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: matej_suchanekCc: matej_suchanek, Jan_Dittrich, Lydia_Pintscher, aude, thiemowmde, Od1n, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T144272: new monolingual language code requests for Wikidata (tracking)

2016-09-28 Thread matej_suchanek
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T146707: Add Lule Sami and Pite Sami as supported languages in Wikidata

2016-09-28 Thread matej_suchanek
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T146665: Review and improve Lua documentation

2016-09-28 Thread matej_suchanek
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong

2016-09-28 Thread GerardM
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Hoi,
It is so obvious that is not even in the policy.
Thanks,

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions

2016-09-28 Thread RobLa-WMF
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In T107595#2671264, @daniel wrote:

In T107595#2668520, @RobLa-WMF wrote:
The risk: the more that our data formats become a complex mystery that is only understood by a handful of people, the fewer people that will trust the systems we produce.


Ah, yes, I agree. The structure of our content should be clearly defined and easy to grasp for interested people. That structure will become slightly more complex with MCR, since we add a level of indirection. On the plus side, the data formats used to represent things like categories or page assessments or license information will become a lot clearer and easier to understand and re-use.


Well, the "lot clearer" assertion remains to be seen.  I think the current proposal still seems like an enormous change.  I'm starting to wrap my head around it, but I can't fault many skeptics for questioning whether this represents a "minimum viable product".  I realize there are many use cases, but what single use case would you consider your single must-have use case for an MVP?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: brion, RobLa-WMFCc: Alsee, Pppery, Florian, Liuxinyu970226, WMDE-leszek, Mholloway, Scott_WUaS, Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T146792: Remove (seemingly) unused wb-status page prop (EntityContent::getEntityStatus)

2016-09-28 Thread hoo
hoo added a subscriber: Multichill.hoo added a comment.

In T146792#2673717, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
What data is it holding?


It has one of the following values (documentation taken from the phpdoc blocks):


EntityContent::STATUS_NONE (0) "entity has no special status"
EntityContent::STATUS_STUB (100) "entity is a stub, i.e. it's empty except for terms (labels, descriptions, and aliases)"
EntityContent::STATUS_EMPTY (200) "entity is empty"
(Item only) ItemContent::STATUS_LINKSTUB (60) "entity is a 'linkstub', that is, it contains sitelinks, but no claims"
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T146529: 5-10 times more rows are currently read from the s5 master than from all other masters together

2016-09-28 Thread jcrespo
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong

2016-09-28 Thread Nikki
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First you said it was stated policy, now you're saying it's not stated anywhere. I'm clearly wasting my time trying to get a straight answer from you.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137810EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NikkiCc: jhsoby, Nikki, thiemowmde, Liuxinyu970226, Lydia_Pintscher, GerardM, Aklapper, Zppix, Popolon, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong

2016-09-28 Thread GerardM
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Hoi,
You are wasting your time searching for a result that is wrong on basic
principles. When a language is not a language why would you want it to be a
language ? Why seek in documents something that is self evident. Something
that is NOT a language should never be accepted as a language.

Please think.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions

2016-09-28 Thread daniel
daniel added a comment.

In T107595#2674606, @RobLa-WMF wrote:
Well, the "lot clearer" assertion remains to be seen.  I think the current proposal still seems like an enormous change.  I'm starting to wrap my head around it, but I can't fault many skeptics for questioning whether this represents a "minimum viable product".  I realize there are many use cases, but what single use case would you consider your single must-have use case for an MVP?


You are right that it is a big change, both conceptually and technically. I'm doing my best to minimize the cost, but it's not trivial.

To me it seems like the cost is justified because MCR would address the need of several use cases. For a single use case, it would perhaps not be justified, and a more specialized solution would be sufficient. But a specialized solution for each use case would be a lot more expensive, and would introduce a lot more complexity. The idea is that adding a layer of abstraction, MCR, will allow such use cases to be implemented with a minimum of extra code. It's about scalability of the platform when adding features.

To allow this supposed benefit to be assessed and verified, we should define the requirements for the MVP for each must-have use case. If we find significant overlap in the platform needs of several use cases, a generalized solution like MCR is justified. The requirements for that generalized solution can then be derived from the platform needs of MVPs.

I have done the above informally in conversations with WMF product owners and developers over the last year, but I admit that this is not documented sufficiently. We (Lydia and me) are in the process of reaching out to WMF product owners, asking them to provide more detailed requirement, rationales, and priorities for their use cases, and we plan to document them on a subpage of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multi-Content_Revisions.

To me as a Wikidata developer, the "killer use case" is structured media info, but e.g. James, Mark, or Kaldari may have other priorities. The Wikidata team will provide a brief summary of the requirement and rationale for structured media info soon, but to get it right, we want to coordinate with the WMF multimedia team first.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T146921: GROUP, OPTIONAL and LABEL service leads to timeout

2016-09-28 Thread Esc3300
Esc3300 created this task.Esc3300 added a project: Wikidata-Query-Service.Herald added a subscriber: Aklapper.Herald added projects: Wikidata, Discovery.
TASK DESCRIPTIONSomehow the below times after once OPTIONAL {} is added:

SELECT 	
	?item ?itemLabel
	(GROUP_CONCAT(DISTINCT ?instanceLabel; separator=", ") as ?i)
	(SAMPLE(?metricalPattern) as ?mp)
WHERE 
{
	?item wdt:P31/wdt:P279* wd:Q1651051 .
	?item wdt:P31 ?instance . 
	OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P2552 ?metricalPattern }.
	SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "it,en" . ?instance rdfs:label ?instanceLabel . ?item rdfs:label ?itemLabel }
}
GROUP BY ?item ?itemLabel ?metricalPattern

try it

More complex queries work (see here. They main differences seems to be the concat on labels.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T146921: GROUP, OPTIONAL and LABEL service leads to timeout

2016-09-28 Thread Esc3300
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EDIT DETAILS...More complex queries work (see [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:SPARQL_query_service/queries#Optional_and_Group_by | here ]]). They main differences seems to be the concat on labelsTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146921EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: Aklapper, Esc3300, mschwarzer, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, Jonas, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T146921: GROUP, OPTIONAL and LABEL service leads to timeout

2016-09-28 Thread Esc3300
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EDIT DETAILS...GROUP BY ?item ?itemLabel ?metricalPatternitemLabel
```
[[ https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%09%0A%09%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%0A%09%28GROUP_CONCAT%28DISTINCT%20%3FinstanceLabel%3B%20separator%3D%22%2C%20%22%29%20as%20%3Fi%29%0A%09%28SAMPLE%28%3FmetricalPattern%29%20as%20%3Fmp%29%0AWHERE%20%0A%7B%0A%20%20%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279%2a%20wd%3AQ1651051%20.%0A%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20%3Finstance%20.%20%0A%09OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP2552%20%3FmetricalPattern%20%7D.%0A%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22it%2Cen%22%20.%20%3Finstance%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3FinstanceLabel%20.%20%3Fitem%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3FitemLabel%20%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3FmetricalPattern | try it ]]...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146921EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: Aklapper, Esc3300, mschwarzer, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, Jonas, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T146921: GROUP, OPTIONAL and LABEL service leads to timeout

2016-09-28 Thread Esc3300
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EDIT DETAILSSomehow the below times after once OPTIONAL {} is added:...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146921EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: Aklapper, Esc3300, mschwarzer, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, Jonas, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T146921: GROUP, OPTIONAL and LABEL service leads to timeout

2016-09-28 Thread Esc3300
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EDIT DETAILS...[[ https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%09%0A%09%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%0A%09%28GROUP_CONCAT%28DISTINCT%20%3FinstanceLabel%3B%20separator%3D%22%2C%20%22%29%20as%20%3Fi%29%0A%09%28SAMPLE%28%3FmetricalPattern%29%20as%20%3Fmp%29%0AWHERE%20%0A%7B%0A%20%20%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279%2a%20wd%3AQ1651051%20.%0A%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20%3Finstance%20.%20%0A%09OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP2552%20%3FmetricalPattern%20%7D.%0A%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22it%2Cen%22%20.%20%3Finstance%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3FinstanceLabel%20.%20%3Fitem%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3FitemLabel%20%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel | try it ]]. Without optional: [[ https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%09%0A%09%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%0A%09%28GROUP_CONCAT%28DISTINCT%20%3FinstanceLabel%3B%20separator%3D%22%2C%20%22%29%20as%20%3Fi%29%0A%09%28SAMPLE%28%3FmetricalPattern%29%20as%20%3Fmp%29%0AWHERE%20%0A%7B%0A%20%20%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279%2a%20wd%3AQ1651051%20.%0A%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20%3Finstance%20.%20%0A%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP2552%20%3FmetricalPattern%20.%0A%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22it%2Cen%22%20.%20%3Finstance%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3FinstanceLabel%20.%20%3Fitem%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3FitemLabel%20%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel | try it ]]...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146921EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: Aklapper, Esc3300, mschwarzer, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, Jonas, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T146921: GROUP, OPTIONAL and LABEL service leads to timeout

2016-09-28 Thread Esc3300
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EDIT DETAILSSomehow the below times-out afteronce OPTIONAL {} is added:...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146921EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: Aklapper, Esc3300, mschwarzer, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, Jonas, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T146835: "Good article" star icon in interlanguage links should be less prominent

2016-09-28 Thread Od1n
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Apparently they are defined in ext.wikimediaBadges, see wikimedia-badges.css.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146835EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Od1nCc: matej_suchanek, Jan_Dittrich, Lydia_Pintscher, aude, thiemowmde, Od1n, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions

2016-09-28 Thread RobLa-WMF
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In T107595#2674782, @daniel wrote:
To me as a Wikidata developer, the "killer use case" is structured media info, but e.g. James, Mark, or Kaldari may have other priorities. The Wikidata team will provide a brief summary of the requirement and rationale for structured media info soon, but to get it right, we want to coordinate with the WMF multimedia team first.


I may update the description of this task and of the RFC on mediawiki.org to say this.  This answer isn't etched in stone, but when someone asks me "what is the MVP for Multi-Content Revisions", I'll say "structured media info".  I'm not sure which URL I'll point them to, but I'm sure I'll find something.

(Please note that I'm out of office until October 24; I'll be working some of the time, but I will be traveling and attending a conference)

Thanks for reminding us of this.  You're obviously the primary contact from WMDE for this, but who is the product manager from WMDE whose work would be blocked if this is delayed?  Is that @Lydia_Pintscher or someone else?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: brion, RobLa-WMFCc: ggellerman, Alsee, Florian, Liuxinyu970226, WMDE-leszek, Mholloway, Scott_WUaS, Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T146792: Remove (seemingly) unused wb-status page prop (EntityContent::getEntityStatus)

2016-09-28 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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I think we introduced this not for our own use but for bot authors. So yes we should ask. Let's see what @Multichill says as the next step.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146792EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Multichill, Lydia_Pintscher, thiemowmde, Addshore, daniel, aude, Aklapper, hoo, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions

2016-09-28 Thread Tgr
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It might be helpful to split the use cases into ones where MCR is nice to have and those which need it. As I understand it, there are roughly three groups:


data that would otherwise be stored on separate pages but could be bundled into a single page for better UX: media info, doc subpages, {{/header}} and similar templates, maps JSON blobs etc. This is mostly "nice to have" territory although in the case of media info (some of which will have to be manually migrated from description page templates) the UX degradation would be pretty jarring so that might be closer to must have.
data that is currently stored on multiple pages but needs atomic updates to ensure consistency (gadget CSS/JS, template styles, template/module test pages). MCR is needed to make those behave correctly.
supplementary data that is used by some tool (editor, mobile app etc) and not really intended for direct manual editing: lead image focus, structured categories, page assessments, maps. These would have to be stored somewhere else, which would be a major loss of efficiency for developers as they would have to rebuild fundamental infrastructure from scratch for each one.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions

2016-09-28 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.

In T107595#2675028, @RobLa-WMF wrote:
Thanks for reminding us of this.  You're obviously the primary contact from WMDE for this, but who is the product manager from WMDE whose work would be blocked if this is delayed?  Is that @Lydia_Pintscher or someone else?


Yes it's mine.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: brion, Lydia_PintscherCc: ggellerman, Alsee, Florian, Liuxinyu970226, WMDE-leszek, Mholloway, Scott_WUaS, Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions

2016-09-28 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.

In T107595#2675167, @Tgr wrote:
It might be helpful to split the use cases into ones where MCR is nice to have and those which need it. As I understand it, there are roughly three groups:


data that would otherwise be stored on separate pages but could be bundled into a single page for better UX: media info, doc subpages, {{/header}} and similar templates, maps JSON blobs etc. This is mostly "nice to have" territory although in the case of media info (some of which will have to be manually migrated from description page templates) the UX degradation would be pretty jarring so that might be closer to must have.



I would argue it is a must have. We can technically do it in several pages but the chance of getting it accepted by the community with the degraded usability and features is close to 0.


data that is currently stored on multiple pages but needs atomic updates to ensure consistency (gadget CSS/JS, template styles, template/module test pages). MCR is needed to make those behave correctly.
supplementary data that is used by some tool (editor, mobile app etc) and not really intended for direct manual editing: lead image focus, structured categories, page assessments, maps. These would have to be stored somewhere else, which would be a major loss of efficiency for developers as they would have to rebuild fundamental infrastructure from scratch for each one.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions

2016-09-28 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.

In T107595#2675028, @RobLa-WMF wrote:
I may update the description of this task and of the RFC on mediawiki.org to say this.  This answer isn't etched in stone, but when someone asks me "what is the MVP for Multi-Content Revisions", I'll say "structured media info".  I'm not sure which URL I'll point them to, but I'm sure I'll find something.


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data is the best we have atm.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: brion, Lydia_PintscherCc: ggellerman, Alsee, Florian, Liuxinyu970226, WMDE-leszek, Mholloway, Scott_WUaS, Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T107595: [RFC] Multi-Content Revisions

2016-09-28 Thread daniel
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In T107595#2675167, @Tgr wrote:
It might be helpful to split the use cases into ones where MCR is nice to have and those which need it. As I understand it, there are roughly three groups:


I'm missing the group "currently embedded in wikitext and would benefit from separate storage, editing, diffing, etc", e.g. page assessment, media info, categories, ...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: brion, danielCc: ggellerman, Alsee, Florian, Liuxinyu970226, WMDE-leszek, Mholloway, Scott_WUaS, Niharika, MGChecker, LikeLifer, Elitre, Glaisher, JJMC89, RobLa-WMF, Yurik, ArielGlenn, APerson, TomT0m, Krenair, intracer, Tgr, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, cscott, PleaseStand, awight, Ricordisamoa, GWicke, MarkTraceur, waldyrious, Legoktm, Aklapper, Jdforrester-WMF, Ltrlg, brion, Spage, MZMcBride, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, fbstj, Mbch331, Jay8g, bd808___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T146792: Remove (seemingly) unused wb-status page prop (EntityContent::getEntityStatus)

2016-09-28 Thread Multichill
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This page_prop doesn't ring a bell. When was it introduced? Did anyone dig up a commit?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146792EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: MultichillCc: Multichill, Lydia_Pintscher, thiemowmde, Addshore, daniel, aude, Aklapper, hoo, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T146792: Remove (seemingly) unused wb-status page prop (EntityContent::getEntityStatus)

2016-09-28 Thread daniel
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This has been around forever. It was meant mainly for statistics, IIRC.
We now track the number of statements and sitelinks (and labels?) in separate page_props, so this probably isn't needed any more. Kind of nice to have though, since it's consistent with what MW will consider an "article" in the site stats (I think - needs confirmation).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146792EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: danielCc: Multichill, Lydia_Pintscher, thiemowmde, Addshore, daniel, aude, Aklapper, hoo, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T144306: [Task] Label tooltips in table result browser with "Raw value: …"

2016-09-28 Thread Jonas
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T67626: [Epic] support for complex queries on-wiki using Lua (automated list generation)

2016-09-28 Thread Jan_Dittrich
Jan_Dittrich closed subtask T139284: List Generation User Research as "Resolved".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T146954: The item search for statements should ignore signs like | - etc

2016-09-28 Thread ChristianKl
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TASK DESCRIPTIONI really like the fact that the item search now ignores ')' and finds an item even when the ')' is added. I think it would be good if the normalizing function also removes signs like | and - (and the other dashes). / and \ are likely also safely ignored.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146954EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: ChristianKlCc: Aklapper, ChristianKl, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T137781: Adding/Editing references is confusing

2016-09-28 Thread Jan_Dittrich
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T139284: List Generation User Research

2016-09-28 Thread Jan_Dittrich
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T141535: Color bugs and other color related tickets (tracking)

2016-09-28 Thread Jan_Dittrich
Jan_Dittrich closed subtask T137781: Adding/Editing references is confusing as "Resolved".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T129065: infographic for quality processes around Wikidata

2016-09-28 Thread Jan_Dittrich
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T140577: Product branding for Wikidata Query service

2016-09-28 Thread Jan_Dittrich
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