[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T204460: Lexemes in Ottoman Turkish (ota) tagged as ltr text on special pages
Amire80 assigned this task to jhsoby. Amire80 added a comment. Restricted Application added a project: wmde-wikidata-tech. I think that this was fixed with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/902399 . TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T204460 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: jhsoby, Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Nikki, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, S8321414, Astuthiodit_1, MaryMunyoki, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Dringsim, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, srishakatux, KimKelting, Muhammed4IT, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Huji, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T64695: Draft a computer-assisted translation system for Wikidata labels/descriptions
Amire80 reopened this task as "Open". Amire80 added a comment. In T64695#9679237 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64695#9679237>, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote: > This will be superseded by T303677 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T303677>. That task appears to be only about descriptions, and about their automatic generation where possible. This task here is about a system for organized manual translation of labels. It doesn't look like T303677 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T303677> supersedes it. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64695 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: YaronSh, Ijon, PokestarFan, Quiddity, Aklapper, Stryn, MGChecker, jayvdb, Ricordisamoa, Magnus, Nikerabbit, Wikidata-bugs, Amire80, Nemo_bis, He7d3r, Lydia_Pintscher, JohnLewis, Ullasoff, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, S8321414, Astuthiodit_1, MaryMunyoki, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Dringsim, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, srishakatux, KimKelting, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T54136: [Epic] Redesign Item UI for Wikidata repo
Amire80 reopened subtask T64695: Draft a computer-assisted translation system for Wikidata labels/descriptions as "Open". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54136 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: XanonymusX, jhsoby, Rtnf, So9q, Lectrician1, Danwe, Charlie_WMDE, Ash_Crow, Agabi10, Aklapper, MGChecker, Bene, Nemo_bis, Yair_rand, He7d3r, jayvdb, Denny, iecetcwcpggwqpgciazwvzpfjpwomjxn, adrianheine, aude, SJu, Snaterlicious, Ricordisamoa, Yamaha5, Lydia_Pintscher, Danmichaelo, me, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, S8321414, Astuthiodit_1, BeautifulBold, Suran38, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Peteosx1x, NavinRizwi, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Dringsim, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, KimKelting, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, Dinoguy1000, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T204460: Lexemes in Ottoman Turkish (ota) tagged as ltr text on special pages
Amire80 added a project: RTL. Restricted Application added a project: I18n. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T204460 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Nikki, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, S8321414, Astuthiodit_1, MaryMunyoki, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, srishakatux, KimKelting, Muhammed4IT, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Huji, Amire80, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T362878: Add type-aware and namespace-aware versions of the message searchmenu-new-nocreate to Wikibase and WikibaseLexeme
Amire80 created this task. Amire80 added projects: MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata Lexicographical data, Wikidata Analytics, I18n. TASK DESCRIPTION The message `searchmenu-new-nocreate` is empty and ignored in core, to let other sites customize it. On wikidata.org, it's customized <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Searchmenu-new-nocreate> in a way that shows specific strings depending on the namespace in which it's viewed, and transcludes translations made using locally translatable pages (using the Translate extension). It's a relatively good solution, because it allows all volunteer translators to contribute a complete localization. However, it has a couple of problems: 1. Other sites that use Wikibase and WikibaseLexeme don't enjoy this. They either have to customize something of their own or copy the wikidata.org solution. 2. These are essentially a part of the site's user interface, which are usually translated on translatewiki. Having to translate in several places is not so convenient, especially when there's no good reason to make the separation. It would be much better if the overriding messages for `searchmenu-new-nocreate` were in the Wikibase and WikibaseLexeme extensions, so that they could be translated in one place and all Wikibase users could enjoy them. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T362878 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, MaryMunyoki, Prufkick, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, lucamauri, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, srishakatux, KimKelting, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T360360: Add a "Multilingual sites" label to Wikibase
Amire80 added a comment. In T360360#9675045 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360360#9675045>, @Mike_Peel wrote: > In T360360#9675009 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360360#9675009>, @Bugreporter wrote: > >> Note if (in the future) one day we add chapter wikis to Wikidata, this will be embarrassing since they are not "multilingual" sites. > > Would they come under 'other sites' or have their own language section? At least for the Wikimedia case, "other" makes more sense. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Bugreporter, Nikerabbit, Steinsplitter, daniel, Ricordisamoa, Romaine, Nikki, Nemo_bis, QZanden, Michael, Mike_Peel, Aklapper, Amire80, GLima-WMF, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, Isabelladantes1983, Themindcoder, Dominika_Naumiuk, Adamm71, S8321414, Jersione, Hellket777, LisafBia6531, Wangombe, Astuthiodit_1, 786, Biggs657, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, PallaviPatke, maantietaja, Juan90264, Tiputini, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Rileych, ItamarWMDE, Un1tY, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, lucamauri, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, KimKelting, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Taiwania_Justo, Neuronton, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Mbch331, jhsoby ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T361005: consider removing wikibase-monolingualtext
Amire80 created this task. Amire80 added projects: MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata, I18n. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. Restricted Application added a project: wmde-wikidata-tech. TASK DESCRIPTION The message `wikibase-monolingualtext` has some HTML and `($1)`. It is optional and not translated to any languages. It can probably be completely removed. For languages that need different parentheses characters, there is the core MediaWiki message `parentheses`, and the HTML can be just constructed in the code in run time. (The message is actually in WikibaseLib, but I couldn't find a project tag for that, so tagging as WikibaseRepository.) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T361005 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Aklapper, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, S8321414, Astuthiodit_1, MaryMunyoki, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, srishakatux, KimKelting, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T226903: In RTL the page expands to the left after publishing
Amire80 closed this task as "Resolved". Amire80 claimed this task. Amire80 added a comment. Yes, I haven't seen it in a while. Reopen if it happens again. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226903 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Nikki, Aklapper, Amire80, YaronSh, Ullasoff, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, Astuthiodit_1, MaryMunyoki, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, srishakatux, KimKelting, Muhammed4IT, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Huji, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T360360: Add a "Multilingual sites" label to Wikibase
Amire80 added subscribers: Michael, QZanden, Nemo_bis, Nikki, Romaine, Ricordisamoa, daniel, Steinsplitter. Amire80 added a comment. In T360360#9640150 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360360#9640150>, @Mike_Peel wrote: > Thanks for working on this @Amire80! It looks like a good way forward. Maybe good to subscribe those following T102417 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102417> to this follow-up ticket, to keep people in the loop? OK :) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Steinsplitter, daniel, Ricordisamoa, Romaine, Nikki, Nemo_bis, QZanden, Michael, Mike_Peel, Aklapper, Amire80, GLima-WMF, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, Isabelladantes1983, Themindcoder, Dominika_Naumiuk, Adamm71, Jersione, Hellket777, LisafBia6531, Wangombe, Astuthiodit_1, 786, Biggs657, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, PallaviPatke, maantietaja, Juan90264, Tiputini, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Rileych, ItamarWMDE, Un1tY, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, lucamauri, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, KimKelting, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Taiwania_Justo, Neuronton, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Mbch331, jhsoby ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T360360: Add a "Multilingual sites" label to Wikibase
Amire80 moved this task from Incoming Requests to Tracking on the Language-Technical Support (Language-Technical Support (Current) ) board. Amire80 added a project: Language-Team (Language-2024-January-March). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360360 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/6936/ EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Aklapper, Amire80, GLima-WMF, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, Isabelladantes1983, Themindcoder, Dominika_Naumiuk, Adamm71, Jersione, Hellket777, LisafBia6531, Wangombe, Astuthiodit_1, 786, Biggs657, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, PallaviPatke, maantietaja, Juan90264, Tiputini, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Rileych, ItamarWMDE, Un1tY, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, lucamauri, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, KimKelting, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Taiwania_Justo, Neuronton, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Mbch331, jhsoby ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T360360: Add a "Multilingual sites" label to Wikibase
Amire80 added a comment. In T360360#9639436 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360360#9639436>, @gerritbot wrote: > Change 1012423 had a related patch set uploaded (by Amire80; author: Amire80): > > [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Change wikibase-sitelinks-special to "Multilingual sites" > > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1012423 Merge it only if you are sure that it doesn't affect non-Wikimedia sites badly. Also, come to think of it, it may justify an entry in HISTORY or RELEASE-NOTES, but I'm not experienced with doing it in Wikibase. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Aklapper, Amire80, GLima-WMF, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, Isabelladantes1983, Themindcoder, Dominika_Naumiuk, Adamm71, Jersione, Hellket777, LisafBia6531, Wangombe, Astuthiodit_1, 786, Biggs657, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, PallaviPatke, maantietaja, Juan90264, Tiputini, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Rileych, ItamarWMDE, Un1tY, Akuckartz, 50019062, Hook696, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, lucamauri, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, KimKelting, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Taiwania_Justo, Neuronton, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Mbch331, jhsoby ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T102417: Give Commons its own Wiki box rather than forcing it under Other sites
Amire80 closed this task as "Resolved". Amire80 added a comment. In T102417#9607965 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102417#9607965>, @Michael wrote: > So the suggested way forward seems to be to change the copy of `wikibase-sitelinks-special` in `repo/i18n/en.json`. I filed T360360 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360360> as a follow-up. The original issue in this task is no longer relevant, so I'm closing it. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102417 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Michael, QZanden, Nemo_bis, Nikki, Romaine, Ricordisamoa, Mike_Peel, daniel, Steinsplitter, Aklapper, Reguyla, GLima-WMF, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, Dominika_Naumiuk, Wangombe, Astuthiodit_1, MaryMunyoki, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, PallaviPatke, maantietaja, Tiputini, Rileych, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, 50019062, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, srishakatux, KimKelting, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Mbch331, jhsoby, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T360360: Add a "Multilingual sites" label to Wikibase
Amire80 created this task. Amire80 added projects: Wikibase (3rd party installations), MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata, Language-Technical Support (Language-Technical Support (Current) ). Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION This is a follow-up to T102417 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102417>. The original issue of that task is no longer relevant, but the last comments present another issue. The message `wikibase-sitelinks-special` is "Other sites" in English. People at that task seem to agree that "Multilingual sites" is a better label, at least for wikidata.org. And indeed, on wikidata.org, it was changed to "Multilingual sites" in English, British English, and Russian. However, other languages get the label from the software, and that's translated in translatewiki.net from "Other sites", so it creates an undesirable inconsistency between languages. A simplistic solution for this is to change `wikibase-sitelinks-special` to "Multilingual sites". This will be good for wikidata.org, but I'm not sure that it's good for other sites that use the Wikibase extension. So, what do other Wikibase users and developers think about this? Is it enough to just change this message? If that's the case, I can quickly do it myself. Or is something smarter needed? For example: 1. Create a new category called "Multilingual sites". 2. In the Wikimedia configuration, move all "Other sites" to it. 3. Let other sites remain with "Other sites" if they don't do anything. But that would probably have to be done by an actual Wikibase developer, because I'm not that familiar with that code. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Aklapper, Amire80, GLima-WMF, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, Dominika_Naumiuk, Wangombe, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, PallaviPatke, maantietaja, Tiputini, Rileych, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, 50019062, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, KimKelting, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Mbch331, jhsoby ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T102417: Give Commons its own Wiki box rather than forcing it under Other sites
Amire80 moved this task from Incoming Requests to Tracking on the Language-Technical Support (Language-Technical Support (Current) ) board. Amire80 added a project: Language-Team (Language-2024-January-March). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102417 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/6936/ EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Michael, QZanden, Nemo_bis, Nikki, Romaine, Ricordisamoa, Mike_Peel, daniel, Steinsplitter, Aklapper, Reguyla, GLima-WMF, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, Dominika_Naumiuk, Wangombe, Astuthiodit_1, MaryMunyoki, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, PallaviPatke, maantietaja, Tiputini, Rileych, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, 50019062, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, srishakatux, KimKelting, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Mbch331, jhsoby, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T102417: Give Commons its own Wiki box rather than forcing it under Other sites
Amire80 claimed this task. Amire80 added a project: Language-Technical Support (Language-Technical Support (Current) ). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102417 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Michael, QZanden, Nemo_bis, Nikki, Romaine, Ricordisamoa, Mike_Peel, daniel, Steinsplitter, Aklapper, Reguyla, GLima-WMF, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, Dominika_Naumiuk, Wangombe, Astuthiodit_1, MaryMunyoki, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, PallaviPatke, maantietaja, Tiputini, Rileych, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, 50019062, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, srishakatux, KimKelting, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Mbch331, jhsoby, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T349440: add Wikidata language code osa
Amire80 closed this task as "Resolved". Amire80 added a comment. It works now. Thanks! TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T349440 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Nikki, Amire80 Cc: Aliyushaba, Aklapper, jhsoby, Amire80, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, MaryMunyoki, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, srishakatux, KimKelting, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T349440: add Wikidata language code osa
Amire80 reopened this task as "Open". Amire80 added a comment. I don't think that it was resolved. I still don't see `osa` in wikidata.org. I only see `osa-latn`. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T349440 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Nikki, Amire80 Cc: Aklapper, jhsoby, Amire80, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, MaryMunyoki, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, srishakatux, KimKelting, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T342715: Please add the monolingual language code "zpu" and "zai"
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T353686: Support for Tigre language in Wikidata
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T349440: add Wikidata language code osa
Amire80 added a project: Language codes. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T349440 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Aklapper, jhsoby, Amire80, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, srishakatux, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T349440: add Wikidata language code osa
Amire80 created this task. Amire80 added a project: Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION In T265297 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265297>, only the code osa-latn was added. The code osa, for Osage in the Osage script should have been added, too, as I had already said on that task. It's definitely needed for monolingual values. I can immediately think of two items where text in this code would be useful: Q264400 (a person depicted on U.S. coins with name in the Osage script) and Q66316924 (a major motion picture with a lot of Osage dialogue and an official Osage title that appears in the Osage script in the promotional material and in the film itself). Very likely, there are many more items where values with text with this code will be relevant. It can probably be used for lexemes, too, although I don't intend to work on it myself. Since I'm a language committee member myself, I don't mind waiting for approval from another committee member. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T349440 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Aklapper, jhsoby, Amire80, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T342665: Request for Mundari language code (unr) to use in lexemes and monolingual text
Amire80 added a comment. The language is legit, and I'm not opposed to adding it, but... does anyone else plan to contribute content in it? Making patches for one language at a time just to translate "water" feels kind of inefficient. Just wondering aloud. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T342665 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Lydia_Pintscher, jhsoby, Amire80, mrephabricator, Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T336568: Add monolingual language code "crh-ro" Crimean Tatar (Romania)
Amire80 closed this task as "Resolved". Amire80 claimed this task. Amire80 added a comment. As far as I can understand, this is a fully supported MediaWiki language, and it's not supposed to require any extra configuration. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336568 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Aklapper, Strainu, TayfunEt, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T336568: Add monolingual language code "crh-ro" Romanian Tatar
Amire80 added a comment. After T336919 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336919> is resolved, this won't be necessary. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T336568 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Aklapper, Strainu, TayfunEt, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T200329: [Bug] In Tamil language, only the first character is saved when adding a Form
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T337081: "Add interlanguage link" shows a bubble: "An unknown error occurred"
Amire80 added a comment. Hmm, I tested it and it worked. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337081 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Al12si, hoo, Base, MdsShakil, Msz2001, M2k_dewiki, Bean49, Intodesa, Zabe, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, jhsoby, Nardog, Mbch331, Amire80, Aklapper, Themindcoder, Adamm71, Jersione, Hellket777, LisafBia6531, Astuthiodit_1, 786, Biggs657, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Juan90264, Alter-paule, Beast1978, ItamarWMDE, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, lucamauri, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Neuronton, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T337081: "Add interlanguage link" shows a bubble: "An unknown error occurred"
Amire80 triaged this task as "Unbreak Now!" priority. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337081 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T337081: "Add interlanguage link" shows a bubble: "An unknown error occurred"
Amire80 created this task. Amire80 added projects: MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION **Steps to replicate the issue** (include links if applicable): - Open https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22P%22_Is_for_Peril on the desktop with the Vector 2022 skin. - Click "Add interlanguage link" in the right-hand sidebar. **What happens?**: A bubble saying "An unknown error occurred" appears at the top. **What should have happened instead?**: The interlanguage link dialog is supposed to appear. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337081 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T317161: Add lexeme language code "pks" for Pakistan Sign Language
Amire80 added a comment. Looks good to me. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T317161 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: jhsoby, Amire80, Arian_Bozorg, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T332264: Add language code apc (Levantine Arabic) for monolingual text and lexemes
Amire80 added a comment. Yes, apc is valid. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332264 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Lydia_Pintscher, jhsoby, Amire80, alaa, Nikki, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T331094: Add monolingual language code "txg" (Tangut)
Amire80 added a comment. No objection from me. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T331094 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Aklapper, Stevenliuyi, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T330046: The "Edit interlanguage links" item in the General menu on Vector 2022 is not seen completely
Amire80 created this task.
Amire80 added projects: MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Desktop
Improvements (Vector 2022).
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TASK DESCRIPTION
**Steps to replicate the issue** (include links if applicable):
English:
- Open https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/L?useskin=vector-2022 on the desktop.
- Find the "Edit interlanguage links" item at the bottom of the "General"
menu on the right-hand side of the screen.
Russian:
- Open https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/L?useskin=vector-2022 on the desktop
- Find the "Править межъязыковые ссылки" ("Edit interlanguage links") item at
the bottom of the "Основное" ("General") menu on the right-hand side of the
screen.
Kurdish (ckb):
- Open https://ckb.wikipedia.org/wiki/L?useskin=vector-2022 on the desktop
- Find the "بەستەرەکانی نێوانویکی دەستکاری بکە" ("Edit interlanguage links")
item at the bottom of the "گشتی" ("General") menu on the right-hand side of the
screen.
**What happens?**:
In English and Russian, the leftmost pixels of this label are invisible.
In Kurdish, the rightmost pixels of this label are invisible.
Screenshots:
F36861883: צילום מסך מ־2023-02-20 08-29-16.png
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F36861883>
F36861881: צילום מסך מ־2023-02-20 08-29-32.png
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F36861881>
F36861882: צילום מסך מ־2023-02-20 08-28-58.png
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F36861882>
**What should have happened instead?**:
The whole label is supposed to be seen.
The possible reason is that the word "interlanguage" tends to be longish in
some languages, including English.
As the screenshots show, it happens in both LTR and RTL languages.
TASK DETAIL
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T330046
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T317193: Add language codes for Sepedi and isiNdebele
Amire80 added a comment. In T317193#8313914 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T317193#8313914>, @jhsoby wrote: > I am actually surprised that `nd` and `nr` aren't already in Names.php – I thought all ISO 639-1 codes (two-letter codes) were there, but that was apparently an incorrect assumption. No, not all two-letter codes are there. In practice, these two languages are among the very few that are still not there, and that's one of the reasons why I'd really love to have translators into them. > @Amire80 Would it be problematic to add them there even if they haven't completed the necessary localization? Yes, it's problematic, for two reasons: 1. Names.php is for languages in which there is some localization. 2. I don't have reliable information about the autonyms. In language-data (not Names.php) we already have the following: nd: [Latn, [AF], siNdebele saseNyakatho] nr: [Latn, [AF], isiNdebele seSewula] I added these two lines years ago based on the English Wikipedia. I wouldn't do it today because I'm not sure that they are correct: the English Wikipedia didn't have reliable sources for these autonyms then, and one of them (nd) changed to "isiNdebele saseNyakatho", and it still doesn't cite a source. So that's the problem with reliability, but they also have to be **distinct**. "Ndebele" by itself is //probably// written as "isiNdebele" in each of them, so another word is needed for both to distinguish them in a list of languages. A reliable source would be dictionaries or grammar books, for **each** language. (Also, the country name is sometimes added in parentheses, but I really dislike this solution. Country names change surprisingly often.) Not having autonyms is not a blocker for adding them to Wikidata, but if anyone seriously wants to add lexemes in these languages, then I'd also like to get reliable information about autonyms from that p person :) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T317193 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: AGutman-WMF, Amire80 Cc: jhsoby, Amire80, Mahir256, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, AGutman-WMF, Keet10, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, JKieserman, DMartin-WMF, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, Aseleste, gengh, Nikolay_Komarov, GrounderUK, maantietaja, AndrewEells, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Verdy_p, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, ori ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T317193: Add language codes for Sepedi and isiNdebele
Amire80 added a comment. On Sepedi / Northern Sotho -- There's probably nothing to do about Sepedi. It can be added if you select "Northern Sotho". There's a debate about what the name of the language should be, and it's documented with pretty good references on the English Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Sotho_language . (Disclaimer: I added some of these references myself a few years ago. I hope it's clear from my edits that I don't have a strong opinion either way. From what I heard till now, there are good arguments for both names, and no clear "winner". But I'm not actually claiming to be an expert.) If anyone has good arguments for changing the English-language label of item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q33890 or the title of the English Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Sotho_language from "Northern Sotho" to "Sepedi", this should be discussed on the respective talk pages in Wikidata and in the English Wikipedia. If anyone thinks that it should be possible to add lexemes separately in both Northern Sotho and in Sepedi, then "nso" should probably be used for Northern Sotho, and a code with a subtag for Sepedi. However, I suspect that this is not what's being asked here. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T317193 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: AGutman-WMF, Amire80 Cc: jhsoby, Amire80, Mahir256, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, AGutman-WMF, Keet10, Jersione, Hellket777, mrephabricator, LisafBia6531, Astuthiodit_1, JKieserman, DMartin-WMF, 786, Biggs657, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, Aseleste, gengh, Nikolay_Komarov, GrounderUK, maantietaja, Juan90264, AndrewEells, Alter-paule, Beast1978, ItamarWMDE, Un1tY, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, Hook696, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Neuronton, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Verdy_p, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, ori ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313883: Some terms are transliterated in Bengali instead of Meetei Mayek in Wikidata.
Amire80 updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T313883 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Aklapper, Awangba_Mangang, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Esc3300, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Nemo_bis, Raymond, Arrbee, KartikMistry, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T274687: Links is not localizable in Wikidata sidebar
Amire80 added a comment. It's deployed. I made an edit request: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Sidebar#Update_for_good_localization TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274687 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Lydia_Pintscher, matej_suchanek, YFdyh000, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, Universal_Omega, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313181: Unnecessary escaping in a Wikibase Quality Constraints message on Special:SpecialPages
Amire80 added a comment. Thanks! TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T313181 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Amire80 Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Amire80, Aklapper, Hellket777, Astuthiodit_1, 786, Prufkick, Biggs657, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Juan90264, Alter-paule, Beast1978, ItamarWMDE, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Eihel, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Amorymeltzer, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, Lsherwinforone, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Esc3300, LawExplorer, Sethakill, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Neuronton, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wong128hk, abian, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313183: Split Wikibase message files to smaller groups
Amire80 created this task. Amire80 added projects: MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata Lexicographical data, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, Wikidata, translatewiki.net, I18n. Restricted Application added a project: wdwb-tech. TASK DESCRIPTION By now, Wikibase extensions are an integral part of the Wikimedia world—certainly the Client and at least some parts of the Repo, and, increasingly, Lexeme. However, with the growth of the extensions, it acquired a lot of translatable messages. As of today, the count is: - Client: 169 - Lib: 141 - Repo: 494 - Cirrus Search: 22 - Lexeme: 128 - Quality Constraints: 139 - Entity Schema: 75 (not Wikibase, but related) That's a total of 1168 (not counting API and Lexeme Language Names). Even for a very experienced and dedicated volunteer translator, it will take at least several weeks to complete it. In practice, it takes months or even years in most languages. Of course, all of them should be eventually completely localized to all the languages, but it's better to do it in stages. For example, some new languages are coming in to the Wikimedia world, and I speak to most of the people who want to add them, and one of the things that repeatedly comes is that there is SO MUCH to translate at once, and it's hard to know where to begin. **My proposal is to split the messages in some Wikibase extensions to several parts.** The main parts will include, in total, up to 300 or so messages that are seen by most editors and readers doing common tasks, like reading and editing client pages, item and property pages, using watchlists, etc. The advanced parts will include things for power users and administrators, such as logs, technical error messages, federation, etc. In fact, something similar was done in several extensions already. For example, language names were separated from Wikibase Lexeme, Language variants messages were separated from main Visual Editor UI, and so on. And of course, the API messages in all the extensions were separated (T189982 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189982>). None of it changed anything in the product or created any controversy. It is only intended to make localization on translatewiki more convenient by allowing the translators to work in smaller chunks and start from more common and user-visible messages. Some time ago, probably at Wikimania 2021, I discussed this with @Lydia_Pintscher and some other Wikidata developers and power-users. No one objected to the idea, but I never got around to doing it comprehensively. Now I'm finally writing it down and planning to do it. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T313183 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Lydia_Pintscher, Astuthiodit_1, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, ZealousBlaze, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, abi_, Sms2sms, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, shinjiman, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, jayvdb, Shizhao, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313181: Unnecessary escaping in a Wikibase Quality Constraints message on Special:SpecialPages
Amire80 created this task. Amire80 added projects: MediaWiki-Special-pages, I18n, Wikidata, Wikibase-Quality-Constraints. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. Restricted Application added a project: wdwb-tech. TASK DESCRIPTION **Steps to replicate the issue** (include links if applicable): - Go to the "Wikibase" section on Special:SpecialPages on wikidata.org, using the Hebrew user interface: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages?uselang=he#mw-specialpagesgroup-wikibase **What happens?**: - The first item in the list includes `"`. **What should have happened instead?**: - The first item in the list must not include `"`, and must look like "דו"ח אילוצים". **Other information** (browser name/version, screenshots, etc.): The source message is wbqc-constraintreport/he <https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Wbqc-constraintreport/he>. It includes a usual double quotation mark, `"`, and the full message is דו"ח אילוצים. This is a correct translation: in Hebrew, double quotation marks are often used in the middle of the word. It looks like this quotation mark is escaped. This is unnecessary. On the same page, a link to Special:ChangeEmail appears. This Hebrew message (changeemail <https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Changeemail/he>) also includes the double quotation mark in the word דוא"ל, and it's displayed correctly. So, strangely enough, it looks like this bug is unique to #wikibase-quality-constraints <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikibase-quality-constraints/>. I tried reproducing it on my local wiki. I didn't install Wikibase (it's complicated...), and simply tried adding the quotation marks to the title of other special pages from core MediaWiki and other extensions. They were displayed correctly. So perhaps there's some extra security setting on wikidata.org or in this particular extension, which forces escaping where it's not supposed to be necessary, but I might be wrong. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T313181 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Eihel, Nandana, Amorymeltzer, Lahi, Gq86, Lsherwinforone, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Esc3300, LawExplorer, Sethakill, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wong128hk, abian, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T312836: Namespaces for Wikidata are not conveniently translatable
Amire80 added a comment. Probably duplicate. Feel free to abandon my patches if you have a better idea. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T312836 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Amire80, Hellket777, Astuthiodit_1, 786, Prufkick, Biggs657, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Juan90264, Alter-paule, Beast1978, ItamarWMDE, Un1tY, SCIdude, Akuckartz, Hook696, Kent7301, pdehaye, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, lucamauri, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, Andrawaag, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Neuronton, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, MisterSynergy, abian, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Lydia_Pintscher, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T312836: Namespaces for Wikidata are not conveniently translatable
Amire80 created this task. Amire80 added projects: MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata Lexicographical data, Shape Expressions, Wikidata, I18n. Restricted Application added a project: wdwb-tech. TASK DESCRIPTION There are several special namespaces in Wikidata, and none of them is conveniently translatable. What's worse, each of them is hard to translate for different reasons. Item and Property = In English, the namespace tab in the main space is shown as "Item". That's because nstab-main was manually set to "Item" in the MediaWiki space. This isn't good. In most other languages, the tab is called "Page", the default translation of nstab-main. In a few languages, it was translated by administrators <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=nstab-main&namespace=8>, but it's not the right way to do it. All the same is true for the Property space. Both namespaces and their associated talk spaces can be translated in repo/Wikibase.i18n.namespaces.php. They are translated there to Hebrew, for example, and the names could be used as tab titles, but they aren't. Perhaps it would be better to make it translatable in translatewiki, because translating this file requires using Git, which most translators are not going to do. But at least using the file would be better than translating in the MediaWiki on Wikidata.org. EntitySchema This extension doesn't even have an .i18n.namespaces file. The tab title is translated to some languages locally <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=nstab-entity&namespace=8>, but it's bad. The names for the EntitySchema and EntitySchema talk spaces appear to be defined in extension.json, only in English. Adding a EntitySchema.i18n.namespaces.php file, and //actually using// the translations there or making nstab-entityschema and nstab-entityschema_talk would be great. Lexeme == The Lexeme namespace name appears to be hard-coded in src/WikibaseLexemeHooks.php, and not easily translatable in a PHP file or in translatewiki. The tab title is translated to some languages locally <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=nstab-lex&namespace=8>, but it's bad. A solution similar to what is suggested for EntitySchema would be good. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T312836 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Astuthiodit_1, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, SCIdude, Akuckartz, pdehaye, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, Andrawaag, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, Salgo60, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, MisterSynergy, abian, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Lydia_Pintscher, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T274687: Links is not localizable in Wikidata sidebar
Amire80 added a comment. We've discussed it a bit on Telegram. For now, I'll add them to the Wikidata.org extension to make them conveniently localizable into all languages. However, they can be useful to other Wikibase sites, so it makes sense to put them in a more reusable place some day, for example the Wikibase Lexeme or Wikibase Repo extensions. Sidebar localization is tricky, and sidebars are heavily customized on almost every site. Finding a good way to do it can take some time, so let's put them //somewhere// now. I'll try to give them key names that are easily reusable so that it will be easy to move them to other extensions if other developers figure out how to do it well. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274687 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Lydia_Pintscher, matej_suchanek, YFdyh000, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T310794: "Add interlanguage link" present on the Wikimedia Incubator even though it isn't a Wikidata client
Amire80 merged a task: T312045: "Add interlanguage links" link appears in the Wikimedia Incubator, even though it doesn't support Wikidata sitelinks. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T310794 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Aklapper, jhsoby, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T312045: "Add interlanguage links" link appears in the Wikimedia Incubator, even though it doesn't support Wikidata sitelinks
Amire80 closed this task as a duplicate of T310794: "Add interlanguage link" present on the Wikimedia Incubator even though it isn't a Wikidata client. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T312045 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Aklapper, Akuckartz, lucamauri, Wikidata-bugs ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T310794: "Add interlanguage link" present on the Wikimedia Incubator even though it isn't a Wikidata client
Amire80 updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T310794 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Aklapper, jhsoby, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T312045: "Add interlanguage links" link appears in the Wikimedia Incubator, even though it doesn't support Wikidata sitelinks
Amire80 created this task. Amire80 added a project: MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION **List of steps to reproduce** (step by step, including full links if applicable): - Go to https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wq/sw/Calvin_Coolidge on the desktop as an anonymous users. **What happens?**: "Add interlanguage links" appears in the sidebar. **What should have happened instead?**: "Add interlanguage links" must not appear in the sidebar. Screenshot: F35303085: Screenshot 2022-07-04 at 22-43-42 Wq_sw_Calvin Coolidge - Wikimedia Incubator.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F35303085> TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T312045 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Aklapper, Akuckartz, lucamauri, Wikidata-bugs ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T208662: Right-to-left-named images’ metadata looks terrible
Amire80 added a comment. Restricted Application added a project: wdwb-tech. For Hebrew user interface, I've changed the message Widthheight to include . I that message supports HTML. Ironically, it won't fix the problem for user interface in LTR languages. That's because the has `dir="auto"`. It's not a very good idea to use `dir="auto"` in general, and especially not on such a large element. If `dir="auto"` is used just for the chance that the filename is in an RTL language, it probably shouldn't be used at all. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208662 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Mbch331, Aklapper, Tacsipacsi, Astuthiodit_1, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Muhammed4IT, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Huji, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T308664: Pass per-field error messages to Vue via ResourceLoader
Amire80 edited subscribers, added: Amire80; removed: Aaharoni-WMF. Amire80 added a project: I18n. Restricted Application added a project: wdwb-tech. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308664 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: noarave, Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Nikki, danshick-wmde, Lydia_Pintscher, Erdinc_Ciftci_WMDE, karapayneWMDE, ItamarWMDE, Michael, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, noarave, Astuthiodit_1, Prufkick, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Addshore, Mbch331, Jay8g, Aaharoni-WMF ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T308062: Carolinian language (ISO code: cal) and Tanapag (ISO code: tpv) label support on Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. Both are legit, if anyone cares for Langcom opinion. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308062 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, #wikidata_lexicographical_data, #wikidata, PHID-PROJ-52qctwr6lw2vd42lg45f, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T304386: "No results found" displayed when entering (most) monolingual text-only language codes on Commons
Amire80 added a comment. I haven't debugged deeply, but I'm not sure that their absence from langdb is necessarily the problem, even though it might be. A more likely problem is that the language list is not set correctly when initializing the jquery.uls plugin. It must be set correctly when calling the `.uls()` method. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T304386 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Aklapper, Nikki, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, GFontenelle_WMF, maantietaja, FRomeo_WMF, CBogen, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, Nandana, JKSTNK, Jony, Lahi, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Silverfish, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Susannaanas, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Raymond, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Steinsplitter, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T304386: "No results found" displayed when entering (most) monolingual text-only language codes on Commons
Amire80 added a project: UniversalLanguageSelector. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T304386 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Aklapper, Nikki, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, GFontenelle_WMF, maantietaja, FRomeo_WMF, CBogen, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, Nandana, JKSTNK, Jony, Lahi, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Silverfish, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Susannaanas, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Amire80, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Raymond, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Steinsplitter, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T286239: Make tlh-latn and tlh-piqd a valid monolingual string language
Amire80 added a comment. This language code is valid, but Klingon has a history of copyright litigation, so I'd say this should also have some legal advice, which I cannot provide. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286239 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Manuel, Nikki, Mbch331, Amire80, Shisma, Esc3300, jhsoby, Ameisenigel, Aklapper, Loominade, 786, Suran38, Biggs657, Invadibot, Lalamarie69, maantietaja, Juan90264, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284870: Harmonize language codes and autonyms between language-data and Wikimedia wmgExtraLanguageNames
Amire80 closed this task as "Resolved". Amire80 updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284870 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: waldyrious, Nikki, jhsoby, Susannaanas, Yupik, Aklapper, Amire80, 786, Suran38, Biggs657, Invadibot, Lalamarie69, maantietaja, Juan90264, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Kent7301, joker88john, DannyS712, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Jony, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Addshore, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T294922: Add monolingual language code sth
Amire80 added a comment. OK. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T294922 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Aklapper, Jhowie_Nitnek, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T293884: Include Massa(mcn) Language support on Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. In T293884#7467903 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T293884#7467903>, @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote: > In Wikibase, yes, but @Mbch331’s changes also add the language to `wmgExtraLanguageNames`, where the autonym is included. (Eventually we’ll hopefully get rid of that – see T273627 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273627> – but depending on where the autonym is used, maybe we’ll add the autonyms to the Wikibase config. I’m not sure.) Oh, OK. So I recommend "vùn màsànà" for that. It appears in the dictionary by Melis Antonino, which I received from @Eugene233 himself. I love Ethnologue, but I trust dictionaries more :) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T293884 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Mbch331, Amire80 Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Aklapper, Bugreporter, Mbch331, Lydia_Pintscher, Amire80, jhsoby, Yupik, FrancisTyers, Esc3300, Eugene233, Suran38, Biggs657, Invadibot, Lalamarie69, maantietaja, Juan90264, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Iflorez, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T293884: Include Massa(mcn) Language support on Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. Ethnologue is not always the most reliable :) But what I am really wondering about is why is Lu In T293884#7459608 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T293884#7459608>, @gerritbot wrote: > Change 734718 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mbch331; author: Mbch331): > > [mediawiki/extensions/cldr@master] Add language codes mcn and tlh-latn / tlh-piqd > > https://gerrit.wikimedia. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T293884 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Mbch331, Amire80 Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Aklapper, Bugreporter, Mbch331, Lydia_Pintscher, Amire80, jhsoby, Yupik, FrancisTyers, Esc3300, Eugene233, Suran38, Biggs657, Invadibot, Lalamarie69, maantietaja, Juan90264, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Iflorez, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T293884: Include Massa(mcn) Language support on Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. In a dictionary I saw, it's "vùn màsànà". Where will this autonym appear? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T293884 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Mbch331, Amire80 Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Aklapper, Bugreporter, Mbch331, Lydia_Pintscher, Amire80, jhsoby, Yupik, FrancisTyers, Esc3300, Eugene233, Suran38, Biggs657, Invadibot, Lalamarie69, maantietaja, Juan90264, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Iflorez, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T293884: Include Massa(mcn) Language support on Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. This can be added. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T293884 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Mbch331, Amire80 Cc: Aklapper, Bugreporter, Mbch331, Lydia_Pintscher, Amire80, jhsoby, Yupik, FrancisTyers, Esc3300, Eugene233, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Iflorez, alaa_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288335: Include Aghem(agq) Language support on Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. Was this added? If not, there's not problem from Language committee side. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288335 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Mahir256, Aklapper, Bugreporter, Mbch331, Lydia_Pintscher, Amire80, jhsoby, Yupik, FrancisTyers, Eugene233, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T290857: Add monolingual language codes for Oïl language, Gallo language, Lorrain language
Amire80 added a comment. I don't think they do. Can someone provide usage examples and explain the motivation for adding these? As far as I can tell, these are groups and not languages. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290857 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul
Amire80 added a comment. In T285156#7324288 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285156#7324288>, @Esc3300 wrote: > For clarity's sake, maybe we should hold discussions about editorial choices on Wikidata directly. Also langcom members should stated that they are expressing the langcom view and reference the policy or procedure they are using to base their argument on. It may also be preferable if, when a user who is a langcom member, requests a new code, they don't express any langcom view on the code. Alternatively, it may seem that the process is somewhat random or arbitrary. > > At this stage, it seems clear that: > > - the request for the new code is complete with samples > - langcom is aware of the request and hasn't raised any concerns within the scope of their review activity To clarify, this is not Langcom approval. What I'm saying is that it's not relevant to the usual kind of thing that Langcom is doing. Precisely because of this, it's the product developers and designers that should review this and not Langcom. By any account, this is not a request for a //language//, but for a special case. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285156 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: So9q, Ainali, Epidosis, Shushugah, Manuel, Nikki, Esc3300, Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Lydia_Pintscher, ChristianKl, Mahir256, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul
Amire80 added a comment. My skepticism about this proposal is related not so much to my Language Committee membership, but my general understanding of how MediaWiki and Wikidata work. I really think that it should be solved by a dedicated and properly designed Wikibase or Wikidata //feature// and not by using a language code in a new way. Wikidata and Wikibase are built around the notion that some kinds of values can exist in different languages, and this proposal is trying to turn this notion on its head, and this may backfire. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285156 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: So9q, Ainali, Epidosis, Shushugah, Manuel, Nikki, Esc3300, Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Lydia_Pintscher, ChristianKl, Mahir256, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul
Amire80 added a comment. In T285156#7247315 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285156#7247315>, @Nikki wrote: > In T285156#7163446 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285156#7163446>, @Amire80 wrote: > >> I don't understand what is this for. > > It would be useful for things like codes, symbols and international names, where the same string is a plausible label/alias for every language. Copying the same thing to most/all languages creates massive amounts of edits and is a huge waste of resources, but we don't have a language-neutral place we can add them instead. We would have to use English. So, `mul` is kind of the right code for that in general, but it's still a special case, and I'm wondering whether it's right to use it as //usual// aliases and labels. Can't it be a kind of an extra field in the data model, or a property, like "multilingual name" or "universal name"? Using just a language code for this sounds like a bit of a hack that can backfire. > Examples: > > - Unicode character "♣" <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q87526860> - has "♣" as the label and "U+2663" as an alias 446 times > - Switzerland <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q39> - has "CH" as an alias 403 times > - carbon <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q623> - has "C" as an alias 187 times > - the disambiguation page "C" <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q28006> - has "C" as the label 104 times > - the Danish men's national road cycling team 2021 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q104248887> - has "DEN 2021" as an alias 411 times > - the galaxy "SDSS J151017.36+160605.3" <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q74758893> - has "SDSS J151017.36+160605.3" as the label 411 times > - the species "Neotrogla curvata" <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q39898268> - has "Neotrogla curvata" as the label 411 times TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285156 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Nikki, Esc3300, Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Lydia_Pintscher, ChristianKl, Mahir256, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T286213: Add lexeme language code "bzs"
Amire80 added a comment. Looks good to me. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286213 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, EnaldoSS, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288335: Include Aghem(agq) Language support on Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. It's OK to add it for everything. However, what's the autonym? That is, what is the name of this language in itself? The Wikidata item says "Aghem". The Wikipedia article says "Wum or Yum", but it's unclear to me what is the source for this. And Ethnologue says "Aghɨ̂m". Which one of these is correct? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288335 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Mahir256, Aklapper, Bugreporter, Mbch331, Lydia_Pintscher, Amire80, jhsoby, Yupik, FrancisTyers, Eugene233, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T287346: Allow translation of some ignored API messages in Wikibase
Amire80 created this task. Amire80 added projects: translatewiki.net, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, I18n. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION A long, long time ago, many Wikibase API messages were marked as ignored for translation in translatewiki (see T40675 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40675>). Since then, the conditions changed: there is now a good way to translate API messages, so they shouldn't be ignored. I already made a patch for this at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/translatewiki/+/697903 , but I guess it needs review by current Wikibase developers. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T287346 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Aklapper, daniel, LucasWerkmeister, Amire80, ZealousBlaze, Akuckartz, abi_, Sms2sms, lucamauri, Gq86, JakeTheDeveloper, Devin-Henrickson, shinjiman, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, Gryllida, jayvdb, Shizhao, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T286861: scripts/interwikidata.py returns a InconsistentTitleError on a Malayalam title
Amire80 added a comment. Aha, so as I suspected, it probably is a Malayalam encoding issue. There was a change in how Malayalam final letters are encoded about eleven years ago. I'd expect this not to throw an error, but to be automatically compatible in MediaWiki's Unicode handling, but I'm not a true expert in the details of how that works. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286861 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Xqt, santhosh, Urbanecm, Aklapper, Amire80, pywikibot-bugs-list, Invadibot, Jyoo1011, maantietaja, JohnsonLee01, SHEKH, Dijkstra, Khutuck, Akuckartz, Zkhalido, Viztor, Nandana, Wenyi, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tbscho, MayS, LawExplorer, Mdupont, JJMC89, Dvorapa, _jensen, rosalieper, Altostratus, Avicennasis, Scott_WUaS, mys_721tx, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, Masti, Alchimista, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T286861: scripts/interwikidata.py returns a InconsistentTitleError on a Malayalam title
Amire80 created this task. Amire80 added projects: Pywikibot, Wikidata. Restricted Application added subscribers: pywikibot-bugs-list, Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION I am running this: `python3 pwb.py scripts/interwikidata.py -lang:shi -clean -page:'Aliksandṛ Puckin' -always` On this version of the article: https://shi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aliksand%E1%B9%9B_Puckin&oldid=27245 I am receiving this error: >>> Aliksandṛ Puckin <<< WARNING: API warning (query): The value passed for "titles" contains invalid or non-normalized data. Textual data should be valid, NFC-normalized Unicode without C0 control characters other than HT (\t), LF (\n), and CR (\r). 0 pages read 0 pages written 0 pages skipped Execution time: 7 seconds Script terminated by exception: ERROR: InconsistentTitleError: Query on [[ml:അലക്സാണ്ടര് പുഷ്കിന്]] returned data on 'അലക്സാണ്ടർ പുഷ്കിൻ' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Users/aaharoni/dev/pywikibot-he/pwb.py", line 399, in if not main(): File "/Users/aaharoni/dev/pywikibot-he/pwb.py", line 391, in main run_python_file(filename, File "/Users/aaharoni/dev/pywikibot-he/pwb.py", line 106, in run_python_file exec(compile(source, filename, 'exec', dont_inherit=True), File "./scripts/interwikidata.py", line 249, in main() File "./scripts/interwikidata.py", line 243, in main bot.run() File "/Users/aaharoni/dev/pywikibot-he/pywikibot/bot.py", line 1558, in run self.treat(page) File "/Users/aaharoni/dev/pywikibot-he/pywikibot/bot.py", line 1810, in treat self.treat_page() File "./scripts/interwikidata.py", line 95, in treat_page item = self.try_to_add() File "./scripts/interwikidata.py", line 177, in try_to_add wd_data = self.get_items() File "./scripts/interwikidata.py", line 164, in get_items if not iw_page.exists(): File "/Users/aaharoni/dev/pywikibot-he/pywikibot/page/__init__.py", line 716, in exists return self.pageid > 0 File "/Users/aaharoni/dev/pywikibot-he/pywikibot/page/__init__.py", line 261, in pageid self.site.loadpageinfo(self) File "/Users/aaharoni/dev/pywikibot-he/pywikibot/site/_apisite.py", line 1107, in loadpageinfo self._update_page(page, query) File "/Users/aaharoni/dev/pywikibot-he/pywikibot/site/_apisite.py", line 1084, in _update_page raise InconsistentTitleError(page, pageitem['title']) pywikibot.exceptions.InconsistentTitleError: Query on [[ml:അലക്സാണ്ടര് പുഷ്കിന്]] returned data on 'അലക്സാണ്ടർ പുഷ്കിൻ' CRITICAL: Exiting due to uncaught exception I guess that it has something to do with the value of the Malayalam string: [[ml:അലക്സാണ്ടര് പുഷ്കിന്]] The string appears to be valid; for example, it works if I paste it to the Malayalam Wikipedia. However, Malayalam is a script that is known to have some encoding issues occasionally, and it's possible that I'm missing something. pywikibot probably shouldn't crash because of it. Tagging #Wikidata <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikidata/> because it may be related; please remove the tag if it's not. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286861 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: santhosh, Urbanecm, Aklapper, Amire80, pywikibot-bugs-list, Invadibot, Jyoo1011, maantietaja, JohnsonLee01, SHEKH, Dijkstra, Khutuck, Akuckartz, Zkhalido, Viztor, Nandana, Wenyi, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tbscho, MayS, LawExplorer, Mdupont, JJMC89, Dvorapa, _jensen, rosalieper, Altostratus, Avicennasis, Scott_WUaS, mys_721tx, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, Masti, Alchimista, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T286239: Make tlh-latn and tlh-piqd a valid monolingual string language
Amire80 added a comment. Sigh. I have the same reluctance about it as about the other thing: it may have copyright implications. I am not a lawyer and I cannot say anything about this. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286239 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Mbch331, Amire80, Shisma, Esc3300, jhsoby, Ameisenigel, Aklapper, Loominade, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T286332: Add Gungbe language (guw) to monolingual codes
Amire80 closed this task as "Resolved". Amire80 claimed this task. Amire80 added a comment. This is moot with T286460 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286460>. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286332 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T286332: Add Gungbe language (guw) to monolingual codes
Amire80 added a comment. In T286332#7203478 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286332#7203478>, @Esc3300 wrote: > If "very soon" actually happens, we can remove it again. Too much work doing it back and forth. It will most likely happen this week. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286332 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T286332: Add Gungbe language (guw) to monolingual codes
Amire80 added a comment. The language is legit, but it's not really necessary to add it to Wikibase, because judging by the current translatewiki stats, very soon it will be added to core MediaWiki. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286332 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T215032: Add monolingual language code cmg
Amire80 added a comment. @Mbch331, I see `mvf` in the code of WikibaseLexeme, but I cannot actually add lexemes in it. And I don't see it in the code of Wikibase at all. Can you add it please? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215032 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Lydia_Pintscher, jhsoby, Amire80, Mbch331, Nikki, C933103, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, Popolon, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T215032: Add monolingual language code cmg
Amire80 added a comment. Give me one example where the cmg value would be different from mvf, and I'll approve it :) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215032 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Lydia_Pintscher, jhsoby, Amire80, Mbch331, Nikki, C933103, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, Popolon, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T267636: add monolingual code "und-latn"
Amire80 added a comment. In T267636#7196480 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267636#7196480>, @Esc3300 wrote: > Any text is in an undetermined language until the actual code is set. > > Can you list the codes you deem appropriate for the 5 samples given? I already said this today, and in the past on Wikidata: Ukrainian, Russian, Tajik, Japanese. These addresses can be written in the respective scripts of the respective languages. If someone wants to write them in transliteration, then it's a transliteration to a certain language, probably English. None of these are undetermined. I'm not going to repeat this yet again. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267636 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Aklapper, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T267636: add monolingual code "und-latn"
Amire80 added a comment. "und" is for undetermined languages. These languages are determined. This was discussed on Wikidata pages and in Phabricator, and I haven't yet seen a single example of a value in an undetermined language. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267636 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Aklapper, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T267636: add monolingual code "und-latn"
Amire80 added a comment. In T267636#7195695 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267636#7195695>, @Esc3300 wrote: > The linked page lists several samples now archived at Wikidata <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P6375/Archives/P969#%22und%22_or_%22und-latn%22>. These have been converted to P6375 statements: > > - using "uk" <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q12114478&diff=1324896030&oldid=1199047662>, using "uk" <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q12114479&diff=1324894331&oldid=1199047679>, > - using "und" <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q27919920&diff=1324924605&oldid=1290785531>, using "und" <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q137550&diff=1324932897&oldid=1258628875>, > - using "ru" <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q932748&diff=1324879339&oldid=1301361959>, > > So, actually, not only "und" was used. All of these are just wrong, and "und" is not necessary in any of them. It's supposed to be Ukrainian, Russian, Tajik, Japanese. In all these cases, a dedicated code would just perpetuate data that is sloppy and easily fixable. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267636 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Aklapper, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284151: Add monolingual language code ca-valencia
Amire80 added a comment. In T284151#7195688 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284151#7195688>, @Esc3300 wrote: > Names can be the same in several languages. It would be odd if we identified only (e.g.) Basque, Spanish, Catalan, but not Valencian. Basque, Spanish, and Catalan may happen to have the same spelling of some things, but they are clearly distinct languages. Valencian is a variant of Catalan. If there are examples where there's an actual difference that is useful to show, it can be added. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284151 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Millars, Mbch331, jhsoby, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, Mahir256, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T215032: Add monolingual language code cmg
Amire80 added a comment. I'm not sure if I understand where is it stuck. I appears to go in circles. As far as I can see, mvf was added for lexemes. It can be added for values, too. If there are cases where cmg and mvf would be different, cmg can be added, too. Am I missing something obvious? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215032 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Lydia_Pintscher, jhsoby, Amire80, Mbch331, Nikki, C933103, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, Popolon, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T267636: add monolingual code "und-latn"
Amire80 added a comment. In T267636#7129188 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267636#7129188>, @Esc3300 wrote: > I think stuff was added to "und" for now. And again, are there any direct examples? Like with "mul", I don't understand what is it for. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267636 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Aklapper, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T155419: Add monolingual language code omq-x-mixtec ("undetermined Mixtec language)
Amire80 added a comment. I think the discussion here becomes more complex than it should be. How many labels do we actually expect to have here? If we just start with "mix", and then we get a lot of them, can they be later divided by someone who understands these languages well? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155419 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Nikki, Addshore, Amire80, Esc3300, Mbch331, Lydia_Pintscher, GerardM, jhsoby, Aklapper, Bugreporter, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant
Amire80 added a comment. Now I understand this better, and I support them all. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180771 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Mbch331, Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Addshore, Manuel, noarave, Mbch331, Nikki, Lydia_Pintscher, Nikerabbit, wikibugs-l-list, Nemo_bis, siebrand, liangent, bzimport, Amire80, Ladsgroup, Ab6399, Kizule, jhsoby, GerardM, Davidzdh, Yejianfei, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, C933103, Biggs657, Invadibot, Lalamarie69, maantietaja, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Iflorez, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, lucamauri, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284151: Add monolingual language code ca-valencia
Amire80 added a comment. All these strings are the same. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284151 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Millars, Mbch331, jhsoby, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, Mahir256, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T244040: Add mfa language code for labels
Amire80 added a comment. Also, in what script will this be? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244040 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Misharim, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Nikki, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul
Amire80 changed the task status from "Open" to "Stalled". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285156 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Lydia_Pintscher, ChristianKl, Mahir256, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T214238: Add es-ES Language to Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. Perhaps for something like movie titles in Wikidata it can be a qualifier rather than a language code? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214238 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: jhsoby, Amire80, Esc3300, Nikerabbit, Quiddity, Nikki, Liuxinyu970226, MarcoAurelio, Mbch331, Aklapper, dbarratt, Invadibot, PallaviPatke, maantietaja, FRomeo_WMF, CBogen, Rileych, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 50019062, Nandana, JKSTNK, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Soum213, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T279554: Add lexeme language code en-us
Amire80 added a comment. I'm not really opposed to it, and T33874 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T33874> sounds more complicated. (That said, I would love some way to have more clarity about the kind of English to use by default instead of arguing about messages' spelling, but that's another topic.) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279554 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Mbch331, Jdforrester-WMF, Mahir256, jhsoby, Amire80, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270948: Add lexeme language code nan-hani
Amire80 added a comment. No problem from Language committee side. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T270948 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, jhsoby, Amire80, Mbch331, Nikki, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, Mahir256, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T215032: Add monolingual language code cmg
Amire80 added a comment. General comment: Sorry about some delays these days. I have some unexpected stuff In Real Life (silly things, don't worry about me), and it coincides with a large wave of Language codes issues. I'll respond to everything some time very soon. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215032 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Esc3300, Lydia_Pintscher, jhsoby, Amire80, Mbch331, Nikki, C933103, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, Popolon, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285076: double check sco language names
Amire80 added subscribers: Nemo_bis, Raymond, Nikerabbit. Amire80 added a comment. While it's good to have more review on language configuration, I'm actually not sure why is the Language committee mentioned here at all. I don't think there's a rule about it ;) And I'm not sure why is Wikidata mentioned either. If I understand correctly, T162406 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162406> is about CLDR. Ideally, all these changes should eventually be in upstream CLDR and not in local MediaWiki code. @raymond, @nikerabbit, and @nemo_bis can give much better CLDR guidance than I can. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285076 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Nikerabbit, Raymond, Nemo_bis, agray, jhsoby, Amire80, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285076: double check sco language names
Amire80 added a comment. Langco//**M**//. Looks good to me, I guess, although I am curious about the source. Do these appear in a dictionary? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285076 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: jhsoby, Amire80, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T285156: Add termbox language code mul
Amire80 added a comment. I don't understand what is this for. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285156 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, Lydia_Pintscher, ChristianKl, Mahir256, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284276: define standard turn-around times for language code additions for Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. In T284276#7160323 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284276#7160323>, @Esc3300 wrote: > In T284276#7160314 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284276#7160314>, @Amire80 wrote: > >> Emails //from Phabricator// are not very efficient. > > If you want to participate in a phabricator based process at some point you need to adopt its use. I use Phabricator for a lot of things, and not just this. > Personally, I think the workboard set up by langcom at #language_codes <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/language_codes/> is sufficient. It takes some time to get used to it, but eventually I figured it out. I will try to look at it more frequently. >> ... And the language //happens// to be valid, but it's not great that it happens outside of process. It's my fault, too, but still. Let's all make our best efforts to respect it. > > Maybe you could explain what part of the process wasn't followed and where this is spelled out. Also, I think we should try to show more respect for users who formulate these requests. The code was added without Language committee approval. Or did I miss anything? >>>> People with weird ideas may use the presence of a language in Wikidata as "a foot in the door" and demand a whole Wikipedia. >>> >>> Do you have any Wikidata related samples for this or is it just an abstract argument? I understand that there might be problems you are facing with incubator, but we should be able to build Wikidata without affecting it. >> >> Cannot recall anything from Wikidata, but it happened in lots of other places, and it will happen with Wikidata sooner or later. "Why can it be there if it can't be here" is a very frequent complaint. > > If there were no cases in a decade, maybe we can look into it when it actually happens. The whole point is that we don't want it to happen in the first place. Look, I understand why it looks inefficient, and maybe even totally unnecessary in a place that calls itself a wiki, which is a site that anyone can edit and where you write first and get things checked later. But the definition of a language is a special layer that has extra sensitivity. Luckily, it's finite, and it's not needed so frequently that the inefficiency grinds everything to a halt. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284276 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Mahir256, Mbch331, Amire80, jhsoby, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284276: define standard turn-around times for language code additions for Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. In T284276#7160307 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284276#7160307>, @Esc3300 wrote: > I don't think any WMF process can rely on Telegram or other third party tools. Email is generic enough if you don't want Telegram, which is totally understandable. Emails //from Phabricator// are not very efficient. >>> Maybe you can explain why https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262922 took so long (you were pinged three times over a period of six months). >> >> See above. Phabricator pings by themselves are not always perfectly efficient. > > The process was eventually followed and the code defined. No input was actually needed (as far as I can tell). The only problem I see was the delay. ... And the language //happens// to be valid, but it's not great that it happens outside of process. It's my fault, too, but still. Let's all make our best efforts to respect it. >> People with weird ideas may use the presence of a language in Wikidata as "a foot in the door" and demand a whole Wikipedia. > > Do you have any Wikidata related samples for this or is it just an abstract argument? I understand that there might be problems you are facing with incubator, but we should be able to build Wikidata without affecting it. Cannot recall anything from Wikidata, but it happened in lots of other places, and it will happen with Wikidata sooner or later. "Why can it be there if it can't be here" is a very frequent complaint. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284276 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Mahir256, Mbch331, Amire80, jhsoby, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284276: define standard turn-around times for language code additions for Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. In T284276#7160260 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284276#7160260>, @Esc3300 wrote: > I suppose you refer to the timeframe for langco review of proposed new codes. Can you please stop writing "langco"? It's really weird. It's "Language committee", and if you really want to abbreviate, then it's Langcom. I haven't seen anyone else writing "langco". > I don't think it's entirely new. It is already used for language codes on Wikidata for some time, given the lack of response and sometimes entirely incomprehensible arguments we had during reviews. I think the situation has much improved lately (also thanks to you), but during my recent cleanup I still came across countless requests by contributors that were lost in phabricator without a clear reason. They are not countless. Phabricator has a finite number of tasks. It certainly happens that things get missed, and it's not good. I do Language committee work it as a volunteer. I also have a day job and two children. I receive a lot of Phabricator emails, which are very similar to each other, and it happens that I miss some. If you believe my attention is needed somewhere, I'm easy to find on email and Telegram, and a lot of people use this successfully. > Maybe you can explain why https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262922 took so long (you were pinged three times over a period of six months). See above. Phabricator pings by themselves are not always perfectly efficient. >> The whole point of the Language committee is to prevent hoaxes, invalid languages, and duplicates. > > The question here is mainly about codes for Wikidata, these are generally trivial in nature and I don't think I have seen any of "hoaxes, invalid languages, and duplicates". No, they aren't trivial. People with weird ideas may use the presence of a language in Wikidata as "a foot in the door" and demand a whole Wikipedia. > Even a potential duplicate could eventually be merged and the people involved should be able to assess if the code is technically valid. This is somewhat different from the usual incubator business langco was formed for. Have such merges ever happened? It's not as easy as you make it seem. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284276 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Mahir256, Mbch331, Amire80, jhsoby, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284276: define standard turn-around times for language code additions for Wikidata
Amire80 added a comment. This was already mentioned in T284151 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284151> as if it's the new rule, but it isn't. Please don't do this. It doesn't create a good impression. It comes back to the questions of what are the basic criteria of Language committee fulfilled. If these aren't defined, deadlines cannot be defined either. The whole point of the Language committee is to prevent hoaxes, invalid languages, and duplicates. We could perhaps codify our process in a way that allows quicker automatic approval of simple cases, but first it has to be codified, and only later it can actually be used. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284276 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Mahir256, Mbch331, Amire80, jhsoby, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284276: define standard turn-around times for language code additions for Wikidata
Amire80 updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284276 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Mahir256, Mbch331, Amire80, jhsoby, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284151: Add monolingual language code ca-valencia
Amire80 added a comment. In T284151#7160192 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284151#7160192>, @Esc3300 wrote: > It's was proposed in T284276 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284276> Proposed, not approved. I'd love to see better examples for this request. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284151 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Millars, Mbch331, jhsoby, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, Mahir256, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284151: Add monolingual language code ca-valencia
Amire80 added a comment. Is there a rule about "two weeks"? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284151 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: Amire80, Millars, Mbch331, jhsoby, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, Mahir256, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284870: Harmonize language codes and autonyms between language-data and Wikimedia wmgExtraLanguageNames
Amire80 updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284870 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Amire80 Cc: waldyrious, Nikki, jhsoby, Susannaanas, Yupik, Aklapper, Amire80, Invadibot, Lalamarie69, maantietaja, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Kent7301, joker88john, DannyS712, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Jony, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Nikerabbit, Arrbee, santhosh, KartikMistry, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
