[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T304087: Short descriptions on iOS have misleading capitalization prompt

2023-01-12 Thread JMinor
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T277616: Clarify technical choice with product team needs for design tokens/variables

2021-07-29 Thread JMinor
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  Thanks, that clarifies things a lot! More meaningful feedback coming soon...

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T277616: Clarify technical choice with product team needs for design tokens/variables

2021-07-29 Thread JMinor
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  Sorry to be late to this conversation, but we're having a bit of a struggle 
understanding what the ask and implications are.
  
  Are you asking if there is a preference or advantage for adopting design 
tokens in replacement of CSS for shared style definitions?
  
  Or is the goal so that there will be one source of truth and changes upstream 
would more easily "go live" into the apps without us having to manually push an 
update?
  
  From my perspective, I think we're happy to adopt whatever definitions system 
makes sense at a system level, and having a shared source of reference for 
mapping from semantic names to colors/styles. But we don't have any capacity to 
transition to a new system that affects both the native and web renderers, and 
so I'm not sure how this would actually impact us.
  
  @cmadeo is going to grab some time with you to make sure we understand the 
ask before we go too opinionated though.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T261977: Add tool tip for editing Wikidata descriptions in the iOS app

2021-04-26 Thread JMinor
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T131013: Don't capitalize Wikidata descriptions when viewing article

2019-02-06 Thread JMinor
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so I guess you could say that all the blame for this rests on my shoulders.

Not even remotely Dan. Use of descriptions as subtitles is widespread and subtitles in latin languages are generally capitalized. I don't think a signle designer or product manager (or non-Wikidatan) has ever suggested these be lower case in EVERY display context globally across all prodcts. Again, there is no need for such an arbitrary policy. So this is on the shoulders of more than a dozen professional user experience designers and product managers.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131013EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: JMinorCc: alexhollender, Volker_E, gerritbot, Mehman97, santhosh, MuhammadShuaib, Liuxinyu970226, matej_suchanek, BukhariSaeed, Marsupium, Elitre, Jdlrobson, Esc3300, RHo, Niedzielski, siebrand, Amire80, JKatzWMF, dr0ptp4kt, Lydia_Pintscher, Deskana, Dbrant, Nirzar, JMinor, Jhernandez, Aklapper, Sjoerddebruin, Nandana, A.S.Kochergin, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, _jensen, Jdrewniak, JGirault, Srdjan_m, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T131013: Don't capitalize Wikidata descriptions when viewing article

2019-02-06 Thread JMinor
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Yes because as things are right now edits made to the descriptions from Wikipedia are wrong because of this. People are under the mistaken assumption (because of how it is displayed before editing) that they should always capitalize a description

Is there actual evidence of this? In the past there has been a strong bias against mobile based editors and claims of "bad" edits seem to be anecdotal.

Again, I don't agree that data entry and data display must align in order for editors to "do the right thing". There are other solutions than making the UX for readers and expectations of how subtitles work in a language/culture a global demand based on an anecdotal sense of data purity.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131013EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: JMinorCc: alexhollender, Volker_E, gerritbot, Mehman97, santhosh, MuhammadShuaib, Liuxinyu970226, matej_suchanek, BukhariSaeed, Marsupium, Elitre, Jdlrobson, Esc3300, RHo, Niedzielski, siebrand, Amire80, JKatzWMF, dr0ptp4kt, Lydia_Pintscher, Deskana, Dbrant, Nirzar, JMinor, Jhernandez, Aklapper, Sjoerddebruin, Nandana, A.S.Kochergin, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, _jensen, Jdrewniak, JGirault, Srdjan_m, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T131013: Don't capitalize Wikidata descriptions when viewing article

2019-02-05 Thread JMinor
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I am either misunderstanding this, or there is a tension/contradiction. If an editor expects their Wikidata input to match the output/display on Wikipedia, then the "data store" would indeed be opinionated, specifically towards what Wikipedia wants. This seems like a larger conversation. It also seems like one that is probably ongoing somewhere.

Yes, this is the heart of the remaining disagreement. There is a false assumption that the user entering the data will have presentation control across all context (wikipedia, apps, APIs, etc etc) this isn't an accurate intuition and will grow increasingly inaccurate. If wiki data is a central data repository does not nearly imply it is also the determiner of presentation.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131013EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: JMinorCc: alexhollender, Volker_E, gerritbot, Mehman97, santhosh, MuhammadShuaib, Liuxinyu970226, matej_suchanek, BukhariSaeed, Marsupium, Elitre, Jdlrobson, Esc3300, RHo, Niedzielski, siebrand, Amire80, JKatzWMF, dr0ptp4kt, Lydia_Pintscher, Deskana, Dbrant, Nirzar, JMinor, Jhernandez, Aklapper, Sjoerddebruin, Nandana, A.S.Kochergin, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, _jensen, Jdrewniak, JGirault, Srdjan_m, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T131013: Don't capitalize Wikidata descriptions when viewing article

2019-02-05 Thread JMinor
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What remains to be decided? How would such a decision be executed?

I agree entirely with your take here:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131013#3544541

Editing clients shouldn't allow/encourage capitalization (and should in documentation make it clear not to capitalize in languages where that is possible). The normal form should be lowercase for entry and storage. Display is context, language and even user preference dependent, just as with dates. I don't see the need for any further work or decision to be made...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131013EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: JMinorCc: gerritbot, Mehman97, santhosh, MuhammadShuaib, Liuxinyu970226, matej_suchanek, BukhariSaeed, Marsupium, Elitre, Jdlrobson, Esc3300, RHo, Niedzielski, siebrand, Amire80, JKatzWMF, dr0ptp4kt, Lydia_Pintscher, Deskana, Dbrant, Nirzar, JMinor, Jhernandez, Aklapper, Sjoerddebruin, Nandana, A.S.Kochergin, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, _jensen, Jdrewniak, JGirault, Srdjan_m, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T206786: Allow mobile description editing in English

2019-01-24 Thread JMinor
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T206786: Allow mobile description editing in English

2019-01-23 Thread JMinor
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T193691: As a user of the Wikipedia app, I would like to be able to add or edit title descriptions from the app (eg. Wikidata descriptions)

2019-01-23 Thread JMinor
JMinor closed subtask T206786: Allow mobile description editing in English as "Resolved".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata

2018-12-04 Thread JMinor
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We believe this was fixed with the recent iOS release (see subtask). Please re-open the subtask if this issue remains for  iOS.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193360EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: JMinorCc: JMinor, JoeWalsh, Aklapper, ABorbaWMF, cooltey, Dbrant, Hello903hello, Tgr, bearND, Charlotte, RHo, Liuxinyu970226, deryckchan, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, Sharvaniharan, schoenbaechler, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, cmadeo, Taquo, LawExplorer, catalandres, _jensen, D3r1ck01, Karthik_sripal, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata

2018-12-04 Thread JMinor
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T193691: As a user of the Wikipedia app, I would like to be able to add or edit title descriptions from the app (eg. Wikidata descriptions)

2018-11-06 Thread JMinor
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T193691: As a user of the Wikipedia app, I would like to be able to add or edit title descriptions from the app (eg. Wikidata descriptions)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T193691: As a user of the Wikipedia app, I would like to be able to add or edit title descriptions from the app (eg. Wikidata descriptions)

2018-11-06 Thread JMinor
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unassigned] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T193691: As a user of the Wikipedia app, I would like to be able to add or edit title descriptions from the app (eg. Wikidata descriptions)

2018-11-01 Thread JMinor
JMinor closed subtask T206871: [BUG] It's possible to edit wikidata descriptions in articles that don't have wikidata items as "Resolved".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T193691: As a user of the Wikipedia app, I would like to be able to add or edit title descriptions from the app (eg. Wikidata descriptions)

2018-11-01 Thread JMinor
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Blocker] T193691: As a user of the Wikipedia app, I would like to be able to add or edit title descriptions from the app (eg. Wikidata descriptions)

2018-10-29 Thread JMinor
JMinor changed the status of subtask T206786: Allow mobile description editing in English from "Open" to "Stalled".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T184000: Magic word on English WP to override display of Wikidata short description

2018-05-07 Thread JMinor
JMinor closed subtask T191347: Update iOS app method of retrieving short descriptions to use new prop=description as "Resolved".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T90765: Make app Wikidata description editable

2017-05-24 Thread JMinor
JMinor added a comment.
Resurrecting this ticket as a placeholder for iOS work following on T145813. This should happen this summer, pending community acceptance of the Android roll-out.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90765EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: JMinorCc: Dbrant, Nirzar, RHo, cmadeo, JMinor, Matanya, Yair_rand, Ainali, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, JKatzWMF, Fjalapeno, jeblad, aude, bearND, Tbayer, Rberchie, hoo, Krenair, Vibhabamba, Mhurd, Aklapper, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Taquo, catalandres, Izno, AlexWang, Wikidata-bugs, Daniel_Mietchen, Josve05a, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T90765: Make app Wikidata description editable

2017-05-24 Thread JMinor
JMinor changed the title from "Hacking: Make app Wikidata description editable" to "Make app Wikidata description editable".JMinor raised the priority of this task from "Low" to "Normal".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T90765: Hacking: Make app Wikidata description editable

2016-08-15 Thread JMinor
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T131013: Don't capitalize Wikidata descriptions when viewing article

2016-04-27 Thread JMinor
JMinor added a comment.


  @Lydia_Pintscher sorry for my ignorance of WikiData norms. I knew there were 
standards for good descriptions, but took from this thread that capitalization 
was not covered.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T131013: Don't capitalize Wikidata descriptions when viewing article

2016-04-27 Thread JMinor
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  The problem with "just let the contributor decide" is that, in this case, the 
editors don't seem to have a consistent policy or knowledge of how these will 
be used. They edit one description at a time, but this inconsistency only 
becomes problematic in contexts where many descriptions are displayed together 
along with titles, etc.
  
  To me this is much like page titles, which can be special cased when needed, 
but where there is a default which is software enforced. By saying "just 
display inconsistent formatting if thats what editors write" we are shifting 
some cognitive work of parsing and reading the descriptions to our readers. We 
could, by policy and community engagement I suppose, ask editors to take that 
work back and use "Wikipedia case" for all descriptions (or whatever the 
consensus ends up) or we could use a software solution, in languages where it 
makes sense, to reduce the burden on both editors and readers.
  
  For an example of why casing makes parsing a list of items more effort 
compare:
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Nearby
  Which uses the editors cases and mixes strings like "hospital" with "One of 
the 50 hills of San Francisco", vs. either Android or iOS's search presentation 
which normalizes for case. I don't have eye tracking studies or dwell time to 
prove it, but I feel strongly that the latter is easier to read, visually more 
pleasing and makes the use of the descriptions look much more intentional.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T126706: Allow creation of Wikidata descriptions by highlighting words in the app

2016-02-17 Thread JMinor
JMinor moved this task to Product Backlog on the 
Wikipedia-iOS-App-Product-Backlog workboard.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T126706: Allow creation of Wikidata descriptions by highlighting words in the app

2016-02-17 Thread JMinor
JMinor added subscribers: Mhurd, JMinor.
JMinor triaged this task as "Low" priority.
JMinor added a comment.

Interesting idea. @Mhurd had a patch from the Hackathon last year that enabled 
in-line editing of Wikidata descriptions. I hope we can do more to directly 
integrate with Wikidata in future versions.


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