[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource
beleg_tal added a comment. It is important to note, however, that this does not only affect Wikisource, but all wikis. A Wikipedia editor who sees a Wikipedia article that corresponds to a Wiktionary or Wikisource page, will be tempted to incorrectly set the sitelinks in Wikidata for those Wiktionary and Wikisource pages, because this will result in a correct interwiki link on the Wikipedia article even though the data is incorrectly modelled. The changes to the interwiki system that allow Wikisource pages to link to each other, should also allow Wikipedia articles to link to Wikisource pages in the same manner. WP article <=> WD item for work <=> WD item for edition <=> WS edition TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: beleg_tal Cc: Uzume, Vladis13, beleg_tal, MJL, JAnD, Tpt, PokestarFan, Hsarrazin, Bodhisattwa, Billinghurst, MF-Warburg, Purodha, Ankry, Candalua, Gymel, Aklapper, iecetcwcpggwqpgciazwvzpfjpwomjxn, StudiesWorld, Hook696, Daryl-TTMG, RomaAmorRoma, 0010318400, E.S.A-Sheild, darthmon_wmde, Meekrab2012, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, WSH1906, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Samwilson, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, Shizhao, Mbch331, jayantanth, Ltrlg, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource
beleg_tal added a comment. @Uzume okay, I see what you mean. and I think we are in agreement. The Wiktionary example in particular is very helpful. The Interwiki system is not really a Wikidata thing at all but rather a MediaWiki thing that is implemented everywhere by default but doesn't work everywhere. It doesn't work at Wikitionary so Extension:Cognate was written to replace the default MediaWiki system on that wiki. Similarly, some sort of extension (or other solution) will need to be developed for Wikisource, and for all/any other wikis where the assumptions made by MediaWiki do not apply with regard to the Wikidata modelling of pages on those wikis. So the problem as formulated remains the same, but the solution is not to be provided by changes to Wikidata's behaviour, but rather the solution is to be provided by changes or extensions to the MediaWiki system that pulls the data from Wikidata and displays interwiki links on the relevant wikis. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: beleg_tal Cc: Uzume, Vladis13, beleg_tal, MJL, JAnD, Tpt, PokestarFan, Hsarrazin, Bodhisattwa, Billinghurst, MF-Warburg, Purodha, Ankry, Candalua, Gymel, Aklapper, iecetcwcpggwqpgciazwvzpfjpwomjxn, StudiesWorld, Hook696, Daryl-TTMG, RomaAmorRoma, 0010318400, E.S.A-Sheild, darthmon_wmde, Meekrab2012, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, WSH1906, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Samwilson, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, Shizhao, Mbch331, jayantanth, Ltrlg, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource
beleg_tal added a comment. On the contrary, the interwiki solution baked into MediaWiki makes assumptions about Wikidata's interwiki links that make sense on some wikis (like Wikipedia) and not on other wikis (like Wikisource). The interwiki system needs to be flexible enough to accommodate different data models used on Wikidata for its various interwiki links. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: beleg_tal Cc: Uzume, Vladis13, beleg_tal, MJL, JAnD, Tpt, PokestarFan, Hsarrazin, Bodhisattwa, Billinghurst, MF-Warburg, Purodha, Ankry, Candalua, Gymel, Aklapper, iecetcwcpggwqpgciazwvzpfjpwomjxn, StudiesWorld, Hook696, Daryl-TTMG, RomaAmorRoma, 0010318400, E.S.A-Sheild, darthmon_wmde, Meekrab2012, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Satpal_Dandiwal, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, WSH1906, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Samwilson, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, Shizhao, Mbch331, jayantanth, Ltrlg, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T138332: interwiki links to/from Multilingual Wikisource
beleg_tal added a comment. Regarding "an item can only link to one page on a given wiki" - this is already the case on some other wikis and Wikidata has means to handle this using Property:P2959 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P2959> "permanent duplicated item" For example https://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_Canada --> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q93359 https://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hn/O_Canada --> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12715470 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138332 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: beleg_tal Cc: beleg_tal, Hsarrazin, Ankry, MJL, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Jarekt, Ash_Crow, jhsoby, PokestarFan, Nikki, Liuxinyu970226, Candalua, Mbch331, Lydia_Pintscher, Thibaut120094, Aklapper, Yann, Zppix, darthmon_wmde, DannyS712, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Samwilson, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, Shizhao, Billinghurst, jayantanth, Ltrlg, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
