[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T278962: Allow redirects and the target article as independent sitelinks if redirect badge is used
deryckchan added a comment. I agree with ChristianKl rather than Taylor here. Allowing / disallowing sitelinks to redirects is a Wikidata problem, not a Wikipedia problem. Therefore, I think it is preferable to store the necessary information in Wikidata rather than in Wikipedia. I curate redirects on two Wikipedias (en, yue) and also edit Wikidata regularly, and I really dislike the current workflow which requires me to edit a Wikipedia redirect page just so that I can add a Wikidata sitelink to it. I would much prefer the permanent solution to store the "intentional redirect" flag on Wikidata rather than Wikipedia. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T278962 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: deryckchan Cc: Manuel, karapayneWMDE, Dexxor, CennoxX, Tagishsimon, William_Cheselden, Pokechu22, ExE-Boss, Ameisenigel, amy_rc, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Bugreporter, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Taylor, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Addshore, Jakob_WMDE, MSGJ, Simon_Villeneuve, ChristianKl, Eugene, seav, kaldari, Naseweis520, Fuzheado, ItamarWMDE, Ladsgroup, DemonDays64, DannyS712, JAnD, Hsarrazin, deryckchan, agray, MisterSynergy, Liuxinyu970226, Delasse, Jheald, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Astuthiodit_1, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T278962: do not follow sitelink redirects when redirect badge is used
deryckchan added a comment. I see that the badges have been created but my attempt to add the badge to a sitelink to a redirect was rejected. What is the status of this task? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T278962 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: deryckchan Cc: Ameisenigel, amy_rc, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Bugreporter, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Taylor, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Addshore, Jakob_WMDE, MSGJ, Simon_Villeneuve, ChristianKl, Eugene, seav, kaldari, Naseweis520, Fuzheado, Gamaliel, ItamarWMDE, Ladsgroup, DemonDays64, DannyS712, JAnD, Hsarrazin, deryckchan, agray, MisterSynergy, Liuxinyu970226, Delasse, Jheald, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T212843: [EPIC] Access to Wikidata's lexicographical data from Wiktionaries and other WMF sites
deryckchan added a subscriber: Fnielsen. deryckchan added a comment. There's a Wikimania 2019 submission about Lexemes, by @Fnielsen : https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Languages/Wikidata_lexemes TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212843 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: deryckchan Cc: Fnielsen, RexxS, Pamputt, Mike_Peel, MarcoSwart, Geertivp, Liuxinyu970226, Addshore, Jdforrester-WMF, deryckchan, Lydia_Pintscher, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, darthmon_wmde, Premeditated, Nandana, Mringgaard, Lahi, Gq86, Cinemantique, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, jberkel, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GPHemsley, Shizhao, Nemo_bis, Darkdadaah, Mbch331, Ltrlg, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment. Yep, it works now, thank you! https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q7967432&diff=prev&oldid=894745707 I wasn't aware of the rep-lag so I was surprised that yesterday's version hadn't received the patch yet. Thanks for fixing this! I think we can mark this as resolved. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: cooltey, deryckchan Cc: NHarateh_WMF, Jdforrester-WMF, JMinor, JoeWalsh, Aklapper, ABorbaWMF, cooltey, Dbrant, Hello903hello, Tgr, bearND, Charlotte, RHo, Liuxinyu970226, deryckchan, Ddurigon, alaa_wmde, Mateo1977, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Sharvaniharan, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, schoenbaechler, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, cmadeo, Taquo, LawExplorer, catalandres, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Karthik_sripal, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment. Ah, I'm very sorry. No I wasn't using the beta app. I'll wait till the proper roll-out and test again. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: cooltey, deryckchan Cc: NHarateh_WMF, Jdforrester-WMF, JMinor, JoeWalsh, Aklapper, ABorbaWMF, cooltey, Dbrant, Hello903hello, Tgr, bearND, Charlotte, RHo, Liuxinyu970226, deryckchan, Ddurigon, alaa_wmde, Mateo1977, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Sharvaniharan, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, schoenbaechler, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, cmadeo, Taquo, LawExplorer, catalandres, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Karthik_sripal, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment. No this has not been fixed: e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q133525&diff=prev&oldid=894115718 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: cooltey, deryckchan Cc: NHarateh_WMF, Jdforrester-WMF, JMinor, JoeWalsh, Aklapper, ABorbaWMF, cooltey, Dbrant, Hello903hello, Tgr, bearND, Charlotte, RHo, Liuxinyu970226, deryckchan, Ddurigon, alaa_wmde, Mateo1977, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Sharvaniharan, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, schoenbaechler, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, cmadeo, Taquo, LawExplorer, catalandres, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Karthik_sripal, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T212843: [EPIC] Access to Wikidata's lexicographical data from Wiktionaries and other WMF sites
deryckchan added a comment.
In T213941#4885091, @Lea_Lacroix_WMDE wrote:
Hello @deryckchan, and thanks for creating this task!
We're actually considering this for the year to come, but before starting developping anything, we need to understand better what people would like to do with the data, how they would like to display it on their wiki, what kind of Lua functions they would need.
If you already have some ideas, or use cases, feel free to share :)
As I wrote on T213941
I would envisage this being done using parser functions, similar to {{#property:}} for Q-items.
As the first step, we should make {{#statements:}} and {{#property:}} work for Lexemes too. For example, we should make these work:
{{#statements:P5974|from=Q4115189}} (i.e. domain:item; datatype:Lexeme/Sense/Form) currently outputs the Lexeme-Sense ID "L123-S2". It should output the lemma or gloss
{{#statements:P5974|from=L123-S2}} (i.e. domain:Lexeme/Sense/Form; datatype:anything) throws parser error at the moment
This will address migration blocks like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#Property:P2521, where the lack of a feature to call Lexemes in Wikipedias is blocking the migration of a property.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212843EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: Addshore, Jdforrester-WMF, deryckchan, Lydia_Pintscher, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Nandana, Mringgaard, Lahi, Gq86, Cinemantique, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, jberkel, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GPHemsley, Shizhao, Nemo_bis, Darkdadaah, Mbch331, Ltrlg, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T212843: [EPIC] Access to Wikidata's lexicographical data from Wiktionaries and other WMF sites
deryckchan renamed this task from "[EPIC] Access to Wikidata's lexicographical data from Wiktionaries" to "[EPIC] Access to Wikidata's lexicographical data from Wiktionaries and other WMF sites". TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212843EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: Addshore, Jdforrester-WMF, deryckchan, Lydia_Pintscher, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Nandana, Mringgaard, Lahi, Gq86, Cinemantique, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, jberkel, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GPHemsley, Shizhao, Nemo_bis, Darkdadaah, Mbch331, Ltrlg, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T211530: Cannot add yue.wt sitelinks onto Wikidata items
deryckchan added a comment. Please, please, please don't ever rename yuewiktionary to zh_yuewiktionary. It is zh_yuewiki that should be renamed yuewiki, not the other way round (T30441)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211530EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: gerritbot, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, Ladsgroup, Aklapper, deryckchan, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, Cinemantique, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, Jonas, jberkel, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GPHemsley, Dcljr, jeblad, Shizhao, Nemo_bis, Darkdadaah, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T213941: Allow other Wikimedia sites to use Lexeme data
deryckchan created this task.deryckchan added a project: Lexicographical data.Restricted Application added a project: Wikidata.
TASK DESCRIPTIONNow that we have Lexemes, small Wiktionaries will benefit from being able to transclude Lexeme data as soon as possible, much like Wikipedia can transclude statements from Q-items.
I would envisage this being done using parser functions, similar to {{#property:}} for Q-items.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213941EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: Addshore, deryckchan, Nandana, Mringgaard, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, D3r1ck01, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T201808: Unify separator between language and lexical category
deryckchan added a comment. Actually there is already a separator: a spacebar. In the ideal situation, the separator should be localizable. For example Chinese and Japanese might prefer 、(or · ) rather than a Latin comma. But this is a very technical usage (i.e. not dictated by natural language grammar) so I can't speak for the preferences of other users. In the short term, both comma and spacebar would be fine. I think speakers of non-Latin languages can cope with a Latin comma as separator, much like we have put up permanently with the utterly foreign and non-localizable Latin colon for namespaces.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201808EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: deryckchan, Amire80, Jan_Dittrich, WMDE-leszek, Aklapper, VIGNERON, Bugreporter, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, Lexicographical data, KaMan, Nandana, Mringgaard, A.S.Kochergin, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, JGirault, D3r1ck01, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T199616: No clear indication of what spelling variant is
deryckchan added a comment. The spelling variant ambiguity caused a knock-on problem: a number of property proposals for phonetic transcriptions (for languages whose orthography doesn't give much information about pronunciation, e.g. Chinese) have been rejected with reasons along the lines of "they should be spelling variants". Some clarity is needed on this.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199616EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: deryckchan, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, Bugreporter, Nandana, Mringgaard, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, D3r1ck01, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T209820: Add Wikidata support to new wikis
deryckchan added a subtask: T211530: Cannot add yue.wt sitelinks onto Wikidata items. TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209820EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Ladsgroup, deryckchanCc: gerritbot, Ooswesthoesbes, MarcoAurelio, Nikerabbit, Amire80, Ladsgroup, Ninjastrikers, Liuxinyu970226, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, Hello903hello, aude, hoo, Urbanecm, Aklapper, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, D3r1ck01, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T211530: Cannot add yue.wt sitelinks onto Wikidata items
deryckchan added a parent task: T209820: Add Wikidata support to new wikis. TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211530EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: Aklapper, deryckchan, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, Cinemantique, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, D3r1ck01, jberkel, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GPHemsley, Dcljr, jeblad, Shizhao, Nemo_bis, Darkdadaah, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T211530: Cannot add yue.wt sitelinks onto Wikidata items
deryckchan created this task.deryckchan added projects: Wiktionary, Wikidata, Wikimedia-Language-setup.Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTIONThe Cantonese Wiktionary (yue.wiktionary.org) opened earlier this year, but we still can't add yue.wt sitelinks to Wikidata items. Please add this functionality.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211530EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: Aklapper, deryckchan, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, Cinemantique, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, D3r1ck01, jberkel, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, GPHemsley, Dcljr, jeblad, Shizhao, Nemo_bis, Darkdadaah, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T199652: Tool 'wp-world' gives 404s
deryckchan added a comment. Hi. Just adding a comment to say that the geonotice maintainers on the English Wikipedia also use wp-world to produce a map of existing geonotices. It'll be nice if we can have another tool to overlay the geonotice locations onto a world map. https://tools.wmflabs.org/wp-world/googlmaps-proxy.php?page=https:%2F%2Ftools.wmflabs.org%2Fpara%2Fgeo%2FgeonoticesTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199652EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: deryckchan, TheDJ, Kolossos, zhuyifei1999, Vincent_Mia_Edie_Verheyen, Nandana, AndyTan, Zylc, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, JJMC89, Poyekhali, srodlund, Wong128hk, Wikidata-bugs, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Gryllida, scfc, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Krenair, chasemp___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T202602: Consider renaming language identifier (i.e. on the left of sitelinks of items) of Cantonese from "zh_yue" to "yue"
deryckchan added a comment. Agree - the language tag on Wikidata should be made to align with ISO 639 even where the siteID doesn't.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202602EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: deryckchan, Hello903hello, Aklapper, Liuxinyu970226, stebsco, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T63958: Use existing $dateFormats to format dates on Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment. In T63958#4515779, @C933103 wrote: If there's no way to fix the internationalized format now then please change the format into ISO date format as a temporary fix. There's currently no way for me to tell which day a date value actually represent without trying to edit it and see the calendar pop up. Agreed - we've been sitting here for a year and date fields remain unusable in non-dmy languages. If we switch back to ISO dates until language-specific date formatting strings can be rolled out, at least people can use it without confusion.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63958EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmde, deryckchanCc: C933103, Capankajsmilyo, jeblad, PokestarFan, revi, Phreelance, KTC, Samat, deryckchan, Nikki, Snaevar, Agabi10, gerritbot, thiemowmde, RP88, Aklapper, Mbch331, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Wikidata-bugs, Addshore, He7d3r, PiRSquared17, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T195859: Wikidata Lexeme interface encoding errors
deryckchan created this task.deryckchan added projects: Lexicographical data, Wikidata.Herald added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTIONSee attached screenshot. When using Wikidata Lexemes in a non-ASCII language, the "Language" and "Lexical category" labels become mojibake. I think it's because there is a problem with character encoding. F18597401: image.pngTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195859EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: Aklapper, deryckchan, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment. In T193360#4187379, @RHo wrote: Not sure if this is related to T173842 ? I don't think so. T173842 is more complicated: zh.m.wp wants to push and pull different labels from Wikidata depending on the language variant that is currently being displayed for the article content. This task is about fixing the bug that the mobile app can't edit yue Wikidata labels when browsing (zh-)yue.m.wikipedia.org .TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193360EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: RHo, Jdlrobson, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, deryckchan, Lahi, Gq86, Sharvaniharan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Mholloway, Wikidata-bugs, bearND, aude, Dbrant, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T63958: Use existing $dateFormats to format dates on Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment. In T63958#4186157, @Capankajsmilyo wrote: Is this task complete? Can someone please update this 3 year old task's status? No change since August 2017. Date format displays in some languages (e.g. Hungarian and Cantonese above) have changed but are still wrong. It appears that the underlying software remains unable to handle date formats that don't follow d-m-y word order.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63958EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmde, deryckchanCc: Capankajsmilyo, jeblad, PokestarFan, revi, Phreelance, KTC, Samat, deryckchan, Nikki, Snaevar, Agabi10, gerritbot, thiemowmde, RP88, Aklapper, Mbch331, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Wikidata-bugs, Addshore, He7d3r, PiRSquared17, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata
deryckchan renamed this task from "Cantonese Wikipedia mobile web and mobile app interfaces should pull and push yue descriptions from Wikidata" to "Cantonese Wikipedia mobile app interface cannot edit yue descriptions from Wikidata".deryckchan updated the task description. (Show Details) CHANGES TO TASK DESCRIPTIONThe mobile app and mobile web Wikipedia interfaces automatically pulls item descriptions from Wikidata, where an item description in the same language exists; the mobile app also allows editing of the Wikidata item description. But when browsingtrying to **edit** the Cantonese Wikipediae item descriptions using eitherthe mobile interfacesapp, the correct label cannot be extracted from Wikidata because the domain name (zh-yue.*) doesn't match the language code (yue)an error occurs and the edit cannot be saved. (The domain name vs ISO 639 discrepancy is discussed on T10217.) When trying to **edit** the Cantonese item descriptions using the mobile app,The error message seems to suggest the problem has to do with the fact that the domain name (zh-yue.*) doesn't match the language code (yue). an error occurs because the app tries to find a non-existent language "zh-yue"(The domain name vs ISO 639 discrepancy is discussed on Wikidata.T10217.) Until T10217 gets fixed (it has already taken 9 years and is still open), please resolve this mismatch by letting zh-yue.wikipedia entries match up with the yue language descriptions on Wikidata for both reading and editing.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193360EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: Jdlrobson, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, deryckchan, Lahi, Gq86, Sharvaniharan, mojoaxel, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Dbrant, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193360: Cantonese Wikipedia mobile web and mobile app interfaces should pull and push yue descriptions from Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment. Please see attached screenshots - It seems that one is able to see yue labels from Wikidata on Wikipedia Mobile app but gets an error when one attempts to edit them. I apologize for my confusion - another yue.wp editor reported the bug to me. F17632212: IMG_20180504_120836_414.jpg F17632211: IMG_20180504_120834_595.jpg F17632210: IMG_20180504_120833_427.jpg F17632209: IMG_20180504_120831_559.jpg F17632208: IMG_20180504_120830_028.jpgTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193360EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: Jdlrobson, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, deryckchan, Lahi, Gq86, Sharvaniharan, mojoaxel, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Dbrant, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145535: language code disparity (Wikidata tracking)
deryckchan added a comment. A number of these requests involve renaming wikis where both the old name and the preferred name refer uniquely to one wiki, e.g. zh-yue => yue, zh-classical => lzh. Is it possible that in the meantime, searching for these in the Wikidata editing interface will return the existing database name? e.g. when I want to add a sitelink to yue.wp, I should be able to find it by typing "yue" in addition to typing "zh-".TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145535EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: deryckchan, Soulkeeper, jeblad, Danmichaelo, PokestarFan, Liuxinyu970226, Krenair, zhuyifei1999, MF-Warburg, Denny, Merl, SPQRobin, liangent, Koavf, Nemo_bis, Fomafix, Lydia_Pintscher, Amire80, Aklapper, Esc3300, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T63958: Use existing $dateFormats to format dates on Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment.Herald added a subscriber: jeblad. I noticed that the date format has recently changed from "25 九月 1997" to "25 9 1997". Is work being done on the date formatting? And are we close to getting ISO dates or language-formatted dates?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63958EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmde, deryckchanCc: jeblad, PokestarFan, revi, Phreelance, KTC, Samat, deryckchan, Nikki, Snaevar, Rical, Agabi10, gerritbot, thiemowmde, RP88, Aklapper, Mbch331, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Wikidata-bugs, Addshore, He7d3r, PiRSquared17, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T63958: Use existing $dateFormats to format dates on Wikidata
deryckchan updated the task description. (Show Details)Herald added a subscriber: revi. CHANGES TO TASK DESCRIPTIONIn Portuguese per Since Wikidata's early days it had been possible to use Wikidata's interface in languages other than English. However, dates have so far been half-localized by substituting the month name with the month name in the target language without localizing the date format string. This results in major inconvenience to users of languages where the date format string is not "d Mmm " or "Mmm d ". In many cases the partially localized dates make no sense to a native reader. This task requests that language-specific format strings to be applied when Wikidata displays any date. Until that is implemented, incomplete localizations should be reverted to an international date format (e.g. 2012-10-29) for languages that do not use a "d Mmm " format string, -- For example, per [[https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?diff=112407453&oldid=112404791#Date_formatting I would like to format the date|this thread]], the Portuguese interface displays "junho 12 1990" on for [[https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q159?uselang=pt-br as|this item]] which is wrong Portuguese; the correct date format should be "12 de junho de 1990". --In other languages, such as Chinese (all variants), Japanese, and Korean where month names are simply numbers, such a localisation results in a mangled string of numbers which make little sense to the reader, for example "22 五月 2017" which does not make sense to a Chinese reader; the correct format string should be "2017年5月22日". Also many more date formats per languages should be changedTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63958EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmde, deryckchanCc: revi, Phreelance, KTC, Samat, deryckchan, Nikki, Snaevar, Rical, Agabi10, gerritbot, thiemowmde, RP88, Aklapper, Mbch331, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Wikidata-bugs, Addshore, He7d3r, PiRSquared17, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T63958: Use existing $dateFormats to format dates on Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment. In T63958#3288758, @thiemowmde wrote: 12 of the 423 languages and language-variants MediaWiki currently supports name their default date format "ymd". These languages are namely crh (including variants), hu, kaa, and kk (including variants). We could disable the localization for these languages and display raw ISO dates instead. Users will not get better localization by doing so. But the order will be the same as the users expect. We might assume users being used to any kind of "ymd" ordering are less confused by "2017-11-10", even if it will be entirely unlocalized until we support full localization. About 20 more languages specify default date formats that start with the year, but are not named "ymd". Most notably gan, ko, and zh, including all their variants. We might add these to a blacklist and display raw ISO dates as well. We might add other languages to the same blacklist if requested and ISO is proven to be less confusing for native speakers. This is a good plan. Thank you for your hard work on date formatting for Wikidata!TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63958EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmde, deryckchanCc: Phreelance, KTC, Samat, deryckchan, Nikki, Snaevar, Rical, Agabi10, gerritbot, thiemowmde, RP88, Aklapper, Mbch331, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Wikidata-bugs, Addshore, He7d3r, PiRSquared17, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T63958: Use existing $dateFormats to format dates on Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment. In T63958#3286620, @thiemowmde wrote: There is no reason to do the actual opposite of what this ticket asks for. No matter what the users language is, everybody can distinguish day, month and year in "10 November 2017". But we can not assume everybody understands what the month in "2017-11-10" is. This is actually the 11th of October in certain regions of the world. The reason is that, I'm afraid, it is not correct to assume that "everybody can distinguish day, month and year in [dd Mmm ]". As Samat and I have strongly argued in this thread, translated month names + wrong date formatting string is not comprehensible in many languages. It is better to default to a correct foreign language than to use an incomprehensibly wrong attempt to localise.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63958EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmde, deryckchanCc: Samat, deryckchan, Nikki, Snaevar, Rical, Agabi10, gerritbot, thiemowmde, RP88, Aklapper, Mbch331, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Wikidata-bugs, Addshore, He7d3r, PiRSquared17, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T63958: Use existing $dateFormats to format dates on Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment. In T63958#3284229, @thiemowmde wrote: @deryckchan, The formatted date is what appears in the edit field. We do not want to show the unformated -MM-DD there as this would be even more confusing, so we show it formatted. I must argue that it is actually more confusing to show partially localised "dd Mmm ". Most users of the internet understand -mm-dd regardless of mother language and Wikidata users in particular are used to language fallback chains. @thiemowmde : Imagine your software displays "2017Jahr5Monat22Tag" (which is the Chinese format string with German words substituted in). This is how non-"dd Mmm " users currently feel when we use Wikidata. It's worse than defaulting to "2017-05-22" "May 22 2017". May I suggest that we actually display "-mm-dd" until language-specific date formats may be used?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63958EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmde, deryckchanCc: Samat, deryckchan, Nikki, Snaevar, Rical, Agabi10, gerritbot, thiemowmde, RP88, Aklapper, Mbch331, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Wikidata-bugs, Addshore, He7d3r, PiRSquared17, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T63958: Use existing $dateFormats to format dates on Wikidata
deryckchan added a comment.
To clarify, this ticket is about displaying and outputting dates in the language-appropriate format.
At the moment Wikidata's web interface and {{#Property:}} returns "dd mmm " with mmm substituted for the name of the month in the desired language, which as earlier discussion has shown is not useful at all to languages that don't use "dd mmm ".
@thiemowmde - Would you please explain how a patch about parsing dates is a prerequisite of a solution about displaying dates?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63958EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmde, deryckchanCc: Samat, deryckchan, Nikki, Snaevar, Rical, Agabi10, gerritbot, thiemowmde, RP88, Aklapper, Mbch331, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Wikidata-bugs, Addshore, He7d3r, PiRSquared17, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T62369: Make "in other language box" configurable
deryckchan added a comment. Where?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62369EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_Pintscher, deryckchanCc: MGChecker, Sjoerddebruin, Mushroom, Pengo, Conny, tommorris, Amire80, siebrand, Nemo_bis, thiemowmde, adrianheine, Snaterlicious, deryckchan, Lydia_Pintscher, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T62369: Make "in other language box" configurable
deryckchan added a comment. Thanks for doing this. I'd like to suggest that the "Configure" link be anchored to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Navigating_Wikidata/User_Options#Babel_extension to direct the user straight to relevant instructions.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62369EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_Pintscher, deryckchanCc: MGChecker, Sjoerddebruin, Mushroom, Pengo, Liuxinyu970226, Conny, tommorris, Amire80, siebrand, Nemo_bis, thiemowmde, adrianheine, Snaterlicious, deryckchan, Lydia_Pintscher, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T118000: Cannot use Chinese IME in label table
deryckchan added a subscriber: dchan.deryckchan added a comment. In T118000#2609356, @thiemowmde wrote: Please provide more information if you can. For example: Did you tried different web browsers? Is the issue the same in all browsers? Does the issue only affect specific characters? Can you please provide a very simple list of steps how to reproduce the problem? Win8.1, Firefox. Go to the edit label/description areas and click on one of them. Start typing in any IME. Hit space to convert IME code to target character. It refuses to convert. This issue affects all characters. This issue affects some platforms and not others. Ubuntu 16 + imap + Firefox is not affected, for example. @dchan may be able to help reproduce this problem.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118000EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: dchan, Liuxinyu970226, thiemowmde, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, deryckchan, StudiesWorld, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T118000: Cannot use Chinese IME in label table
deryckchan added a comment. In T118000#2566359, @Liuxinyu970226 wrote: In T118000#2504503, @deryckchan wrote: In T118000#2504332, @Liuxinyu970226 wrote: Works for me under Windows 7 (tried both Sogou and MS IME), maybe a bug in Windows 8 or 10? Yes it was Win8.1 I had problems with. I haven't tried Win10 yet. So this is an #upstream bug? i.e. probably should report to https://answers.microsoft.com/ or https://social.technet.microsoft.com/ ? No that isn't what I mean. I meant this bug affects some platforms but not others. Input boxes on other sites - including other Wikimedia projects -behave normally.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118000EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: Liuxinyu970226, thiemowmde, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, deryckchan, StudiesWorld, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T118000: Cannot use Chinese IME in label table
deryckchan added a comment. In T118000#2504332, @Liuxinyu970226 wrote: Works for me under Windows 7 (tried both Sogou and MS IME), maybe a bug in Windows 8 or 10? Yes it was Win8.1 I had problems with. I haven't tried Win10 yet.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118000EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: deryckchanCc: Pcoombe, Liuxinyu970226, thiemowmde, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, deryckchan, StudiesWorld, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T118000: Cannot use Chinese IME in label table
deryckchan created this task.
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TASK DESCRIPTION
I tried to edit item descriptions in Chinese today and found that I couldn't
input Chinese into the label boxes directly. (The IME code refuses to convert
to the character I want after I hit spacebar.) I think it's the new version of
the label table that has a bug? It used to be fine as of a few months ago.
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