[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-03-06 Thread ArielGlenn 
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  Note that if you don't get the emails for the tasks you might not be watching 
this project, only a member.  So check that too.

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Re: [Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-28 Thread Daniel Irwin 
no


On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 5:42 AM, ArielGlenn <
no-re...@phabricator.wikimedia.org> wrote:

> ArielGlenn added a comment.
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> In a conversation on IRC robla suggested that this would be a very useful
> question so I post it here:
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> "do we need a new multi-format dump architecture to replace our XML-based
> system, or is there a better approach?"
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-24 Thread ArielGlenn 
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  Yes indeed, Flow and anything folks want to produce in the future.  We want 
this to be as easy as adding a config section to a puppet manifest (once the 
script to produce the dataset is written and tested).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-24 Thread Mattflaschen 
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  > Content. We have WikiData which has its own unique content; should we do 
something special here?
  
  Flow now has dumps, though they're not running in production yet (open task).
  
  Flow would need to fit into this framework, though.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-17 Thread ArielGlenn 
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Draft questions now at 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016/T114019/Minutes/Questions

Please edit away.  If you edit there please comment here so that task watchers 
(like me) know to go check the page for new stuff. Thanks!


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-16 Thread ArielGlenn 
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Yes indeed, I was going to start the draft list here and ask people to
please chime in/add/remove/fix.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-16 Thread Milimetric 
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nice job organizing, Ariel, let me know if you want to bounce the questions off 
someone


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-15 Thread ArielGlenn 
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AWight's note are now available on the session notes; Halfak's notes are also 
available there.  Next up: cull questions that need to be answered in order to 
work on implementation.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-09 Thread ArielGlenn 
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AWight feedback to be gathered async, he's got a very full plate. So it might 
be put off til later, will find out soon.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-09 Thread ArielGlenn 
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Chat done, notes on etherpad, will be cleaned up and added to wiki page notes 
soon. Next and last up: AWight.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-08 Thread ArielGlenn 
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Will chat with @Halfak tomorrow at around 18.00 my time i.e. EET  (16.00 UTC I 
guess).  Notes to go to etherpad first and then wiki page as usual. After that 
AWight and then done with info gathering for this round.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-03 Thread ArielGlenn 
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https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WikiDev16-T114019 has rought notes from talk 
with millimetric's team, I will clean these up and move to the wiki page for 
the dev session soon.  AWight and maybe one more Aaron are next. Then it will 
be question culling time.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-02 Thread Milimetric 
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@ArielGlenn - looking forward to the discussion


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-01 Thread ArielGlenn 
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/dumps-rewrite/ New project has been 
created, I've added you all to it I think, but please check to be sure.

On this task I need to chat with Milimetric and AWight and record those notes, 
then cull out questions for followup.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-02-01 Thread ArielGlenn 
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The session notes have been updated with notes from a later discussion with 
Gwicke: 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016/T114019/Minutes#Gabriel_Wicke_discussion_notes

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-01-20 Thread ArielGlenn 
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notes are linked, also copied to wiki page so etherpad can go away,
followup task generation is in progress.  Once that is complete this task
will be resolved.


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2016-01-20 Thread Aklapper 
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Wikimedia Developer Summit 2016 ended two weeks ago. This task is still open. 
**If the session in this task took place**, please make sure 1) that the 
session Etherpad notes are linked from this task, 2) that followup tasks for 
any actions identified have been created and linked from this task, 3) to 
change the status of this task to "resolved". **If this session did not take 
place**, change the task status to "declined". **If this task** itself has 
become a well-defined action which **is not finished yet**, drag and drop this 
task into the "Work continues after Summit" column on the project workboard. 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-01-12 Thread ArielGlenn 
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We have session notes here: 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016/T114019

Lots to process still.  I'm going to chat with Adam Wight (didn't get to do 
that at the dev summit) and also Gabriel Wicke (same) this week and add those 
notes to the etherpad so we don't lose them;  I suppose I should copy those 
etherpad notes to a wiki page right after that, actually.   See the action 
items, the ball's on me but I'm trying more to coordinate than to decide by 
fiat.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2016-01-04 Thread ArielGlenn 
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I have scheduled this session on the Unconference track for tomorrow, Jan 5 at 
10 a.m.  We'll be identifying the main issues for users of the dumps (I already 
know what the main issues are for the maintainer!), and then discussing 
approaches to address those issues if we were able to design the dump system 
from scratch.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2015-12-22 Thread GWicke 
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@ArielGlenn: To me it seems that the discussion so far lacks a shared agreement 
on what the most pressing problems with dumps are. This makes it difficult to 
evaluate candidate solutions and their trade-offs relative to the top 
priorities.

With the right preparation, a discussion at the dev summit could perhaps help 
to establish a shared agreement on the top problems to solve. It would be 
helpful if a candidate list could be worked out before the summit, so that it 
can inform the discussion.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2015-12-21 Thread ArielGlenn 
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Problem 1 does not need to wait for dumps 2.0; the instant workaround (though a 
workaround and not a solution) is to download from the your.org mirror which 
provides reasonable download speeds.  In the meantime I will open a ticket for 
this issue and cc you on it, gathering the network issues ticket you have, a 
ticket I have open for ms1001 eth bonding, and adding one suggested by paravoid 
about looking at dataset1001 memory and related issues that may impact disk i/o.

Problem 2 should get a task for it also (again it does not need to wait for 
dumps 2.0)  though I can not promise to start on it right away.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2015-12-14 Thread ArielGlenn 
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OK, I'll backtrack then.  There's some problems listed in the description but 
maybe none of those is "the most important problem to solve" with the current 
system. So I"m taking bids, what do people think?  And yes as the maintainer I 
have an opinion but it's as a maintainer, not as a user, so I'll chime in after 
some other folks have spoken up.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2015-12-10 Thread RobLa-WMF 
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I think there's a risk of second system syndrome 
 
here in the current proposal.  I would start with the question "what's the most 
important problem to solve with the current system?"  My instinct is that we 
can come up with a very simple system to solve @halfak's problem, possibly a 
(hopefully temporary) "next gen" version that doesn't replace the old system at 
first.  We keep iteratively solving problems with the new system, and then when 
the pain of maintaining two systems becomes too much, implement the old system 
//on top// of the new system.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2015-12-10 Thread ArielGlenn 
ArielGlenn added a comment.

In a conversation on IRC robla suggested that this would be a very useful 
question so I post it here:

"do we need a new multi-format dump architecture to replace our XML-based 
system, or is there a better approach?"


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114019: Dumps 2.0 for realz (planning/architecture session)

2015-12-10 Thread ArielGlenn 
ArielGlenn added a comment.

First, the same old Dumps 1.0 are what are running now.  If we don't get some 
collaboration on 2.0 there won't be a 2.0. And that's exactly what I meant when 
I said that if people don't show up we'll just have the same old dumps we 
always had.

Second, for current discussion: the document is meant to be a straw man 
proposall that people can pick apart for discussion, in particular the diagram, 
because without giving some starting point for discussion, no discussion was 
taking place.

Halfak's comment is fine, it's just premature, in the sense that if people 
agree that there ought to be some sort of formatter that produces output, we 
can have that produce xml, json, etc.  The idea is not dead at all.

Hope that helps.


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