[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145279: Interwiki links to articles in other projects from Commons categories via Wikidata

2019-08-01 Thread Mike_Peel 
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  In T145279#5384625 , 
@kaldari wrote:
  
  >> Following from the general switch to using the sitelinks for Commons over 
the last year...
  >
  > @Mike_Peel - Could you explain this sentence? What is the "general switch"?
  
  Commons sitelinks are now used a lot more than they were before (this is what 
the infobox is using, so they're now in ~2.5 million categories compared to 
~0.5 million 18 months ago). P373  is 
hopefully being used less, and I'm hoping that it will be deprecated at some 
point.
  
  > From my POV, this problem is not fixed, it's actually gotten worse. For 
example, I can't get access to the Wikidata ID from Javascript within a 
Category page if:
  >
  > - The category page is interwikilinked from a category item instead of the 
regular Wikidata item (which seems to be an increasingly common practice).
  > - The Wikidata item is linked to a gallery instead of the category.
  >
  > Just because you can work around this from within Lua, doesn't solve the 
problem for gadgets and userscripts which need the data available from 
Javascript (without being delayed by expensive round-trip API queries).
  
  This is a problem with the Javascript tools, you probably want to open a 
separate ticket for that.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145279: Interwiki links to articles in other projects from Commons categories via Wikidata

2019-08-01 Thread kaldari 
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  > Following from the general switch to using the sitelinks for Commons over 
the last year...
  
  @Mike_Peel - Could you explain this sentence? What is the "general switch"?
  
  From my POV, this problem is not fixed, it's actually gotten worse. For 
example, I can't get access to the Wikidata ID from Javascript within a 
Category page if:
  
  - The category page is interwikilinked from a category item instead of the 
regular Wikidata item (which seems to be an increasingly common practice).
  - The Wikidata item is linked to a gallery instead of the category.
  
  Just because you can work around this from within Lua, doesn't solve the 
problem for gadgets and userscripts which need the data available from 
Javascript (without being delayed by expensive round-trip API queries).

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Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, 
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Silverfish, _jensen, rosalieper, Morgankevinj, Taiwania_Justo, Susannaanas, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145279: Interwiki links to articles in other projects from Commons categories via Wikidata

2019-05-10 Thread Mike_Peel 
Mike_Peel added a comment.


  I think this is basically solved now, barring cleanup? Following from the 
general switch to using the sitelinks for Commons over the last year, the 
interwiki links now appear on Commons through the sitelinks in most cases. 
Where the category is linked to a category item, {{Interwiki from Wikidata}} 
and {{Wikidata Infobox}} sort out the relevant links. So I think this task can 
now be closed?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145279: Interwiki links to articles in other projects from Commons categories via Wikidata

2017-01-22 Thread Ghouston 
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Those are also fixed by making sitelinks. The only relevant Wikidata policy that I know of is Wikidata:Notability, which says "an item with only a sitelink to a category page in Wikimedia Commons is not allowed on main article items", which I believe means you can't create new Wikidata item which is linked only to Commons. That won't be an issue for most of the biological categories.

Another advantage of sitelinks is that when a Commons category is renamed, the sitelink is fixed automatically, but the P373 link is left pointing to the old name.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145279EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: GhoustonCc: Ghouston, MisterSynergy, Quiddity, Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Josve05a, xcombelle, Dereckson, Nemo_bis, Aklapper, Pokefan95, Acer, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Deskana, El_Grafo, Ricordisamoa, Fabrice_Florin, Jackmcbarn, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Tgr___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145279: Interwiki links to articles in other projects from Commons categories via Wikidata

2017-01-22 Thread Josve05a 
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Also, if someone could find a way we could get rid of thse cats from this maintenance cat without reaking Wikidata's policies, that would be swell...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145279EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Josve05aCc: Ghouston, MisterSynergy, Quiddity, Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Josve05a, xcombelle, Dereckson, Nemo_bis, Aklapper, Pokefan95, Acer, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Deskana, El_Grafo, Ricordisamoa, Fabrice_Florin, Jackmcbarn, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Tgr___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145279: Interwiki links to articles in other projects from Commons categories via Wikidata

2017-01-09 Thread Ghouston 
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Actually in this case there's a category item on Wikidata, so the Commons category can link to that. It makes it slightly harder to set up, because it needs a template on the category to pull in the links from the main Wikidata item.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145279EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: GhoustonCc: Ghouston, MisterSynergy, Quiddity, Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Josve05a, xcombelle, Dereckson, Nemo_bis, Aklapper, Pokefan95, Acer, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Base, aude, El_Grafo, Ricordisamoa, Fabrice_Florin, Jackmcbarn, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Tgr___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145279: Interwiki links to articles in other projects from Commons categories via Wikidata

2017-01-09 Thread Ghouston 
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I made a sitelink on Commons Category:Anastigmat and now the links are fine. There has been some discussion on Wikidata in the past about whether this is the right way to do it, but no consensus was reached. However the software is set up to support it ("Add Links" in the sidebar) and it's the only way to make all the sidebar links appear on the Commons side, including the link to the Wikidata item.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145279EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: GhoustonCc: Ghouston, MisterSynergy, Quiddity, Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Josve05a, xcombelle, Dereckson, Nemo_bis, Aklapper, Pokefan95, Acer, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Base, aude, El_Grafo, Ricordisamoa, Fabrice_Florin, Jackmcbarn, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Tgr___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145279: Interwiki links to articles in other projects from Commons categories via Wikidata

2016-10-05 Thread Acer 
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Nope. You got it backwards. The issue here is that the Commons Category:Anastigmat page does not interwiki-link back to Anastigmat on Wikipedia.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145279EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: AcerCc: Quiddity, Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Josve05a, xcombelle, Dereckson, Nemo_bis, Aklapper, Pokefan95, Acer, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, El_Grafo, Ricordisamoa, Fabrice_Florin, Jackmcbarn, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Tgr___
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