[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Esc3300 added a comment. Aeroid has quite lot in their userspace, notably in dewiki.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: Esc3300, Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Esc3300 added a comment. something is broken in elwiki .. not sure what. Manual updates gives a message starting with: Trying to update Χρήστης:Geraki/Θάνατοι_το_2016... Warning: file_get_contents(): php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Name or service not known in /data/project/listeria/shared.inc on line 93 Warning: file_get_contents(https://elwiki.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=json="">): failed to open stream: php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Name or service not known in /data/project/listeria/shared.inc on line 93 TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: Esc3300, Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Esc3300 added a comment. Sure, but I don't think we necessarily need to do them all without the user ;) Anyways, I left a short summary on frwikiTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: Esc3300, Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Multichill added a comment. In T153441#2881880, @Magnus wrote: We are not aiming to change the visible result (only for the better, perhaps). And when I switch off WDQ support, they should be thankful that their lists keep working. Exactly! Thanks for the overview. I just counted only 14 not failed WDQ lists.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: MultichillCc: Esc3300, Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Magnus added a comment. We are not aiming to change the visible result (only for the better, perhaps). And when I switch off WDQ support, they should be thankful that their lists keep working.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: MagnusCc: Esc3300, Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Esc3300 added a comment. Lots queries are in userspace .. users probably don't mind if we improve them to keep working, but in general, I don't think we should attempt to edit them.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: Esc3300, Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Esc3300 added a comment. To be safe, maybe you want to add DISTINCT and LIMIT 5000 when convertingTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: Esc3300, Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Magnus added a comment. It's now in the bot report (last column, linked to the per-wiki lists).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: MagnusCc: Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Multichill added a comment. I also noticed that the query converter gives interesting output. Things like not using MINUS. I tend to also make the query a bit easier or better when converting. The number of pages is much lower than I expected on other wiki's. I guess that if you can just produce a list somewhere, we can just empty it out with a couple of volunteers.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: MultichillCc: Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Magnus added a comment. WDQ usage (wiki/pages): wikidatawiki 559 (this one might change massively tomorrow after your updates) dewiki 95 frwiki 76 enwiki 61 dawiki 25 itwiki 10 ndswiki 10 nlwiki 10 euwiki 9 svwiki 8 elwiki 8 cawiki 6 cywiki 4 ruwiki 4 fiwiki 4 eswiki 3 nowiki 2 commonswiki 2 ptwiki 2 etwiki 1 ltwiki 1TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: MagnusCc: Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Magnus added a comment. Actually, ListeriaBot automatically replaces "simple" WDQ with SPARQL upon editing. I could extend that to "all WDQ", with exceptions where the converter doesn't work. Some of the SPARQL is badly optimised, however, and will time-out, causing the list to become static (not edited anymore).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: MagnusCc: Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Multichill added a comment. I added the warnings and some tracker categories on Wikidata, see https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AWikidata_list=revision=416999396=410001395 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_list_with_wdq_and_sparql filled up a bit, maybe a 100, now already down to 10 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_list_with_wdq_and_sparql had about 600 pages in it, did some conversions with a bot and it's now at 63 So it seems like reducing the old usage isn't too hard. Do you have some per wiki statistics @Magnus of wdq usage in lists per wiki? That probably helps to decide if it's worth the effort to do this centrally.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: MultichillCc: Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153441: Add deprecation warnings and tracking category for WDQ at Template:Wikidata list
Magnus added a comment. Rather than doing this for all the templates on all the wikis, this could be done centrally in ListeriaBot.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153441EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: MagnusCc: Magnus, Aklapper, Multichill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
