[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-10 Thread gerritbot
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Change 353023 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseQualityConstraints@master] Un-frame report button and remove number

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-10 Thread gerritbot
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Change 353023 had a related patch set uploaded (by Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE); owner: Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)):
[mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseQualityConstraints@master] Un-frame report button and remove number

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-10 Thread Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE
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It is not clear that it is interactive



"the indicator may look like text" and "people may not know that it is interactive" have actual scenarios of which problems and confusions they cause.

Do we know that this is an actual problem for users? Have we heard this complaint from them? As far as I’m aware, it’s just a potential concern from our side, and it might not be worth cluttering the interface to fix it when it’s not a problem people actually have.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164831EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_Dittrich, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDECc: thiemowmde, Izno, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Charlie_WMDE, gerritbot, Jan_Dittrich, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, dachary, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-09 Thread gerritbot
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Change 352850 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseQualityConstraints@master] Make constraint report button framed

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-09 Thread Jan_Dittrich
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@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, @thiemowmde : Yes, that is too massive. So, lets remove the border. Lets also sit together and find another way to indicate interactivity (maybe via hover styles, background or something else).

In the long run, I would like these items go to a place where people will know that stuff there is interactive. Like indicators for battery, sound, language etc. in your desktop barTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164831EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_DittrichCc: thiemowmde, Izno, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Charlie_WMDE, gerritbot, Jan_Dittrich, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, dachary, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-09 Thread Jan_Dittrich
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There are different assumptions about what the feature does not not does and also what the actual problem is. For some it is a useful indicator, others see it as cluttering. Only way to find out is to test it.

If it is seen as really problematic to keep it, we can take it out. But: I see no big problems with keeping it the way it is regarding the number, and I think that "the indicator  may look like text" and "people may not know that it is interactive"  have actual scenarios of which problems and confusions they cause.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164831EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_DittrichCc: thiemowmde, Izno, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Charlie_WMDE, gerritbot, Jan_Dittrich, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, dachary, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-09 Thread Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE
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Change 352850 makes the button framed, as shown in the last of the three buttons in the screenshot @Jan_Dittrich posted. Do you think that’s an improvement?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164831EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_Dittrich, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDECc: Izno, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Charlie_WMDE, gerritbot, Jan_Dittrich, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, dachary, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-09 Thread Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE
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Related change: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/352815/ (don’t show number of violations if it’s 1)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164831EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_Dittrich, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDECc: Izno, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Charlie_WMDE, gerritbot, Jan_Dittrich, QZanden, dachary, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-09 Thread gerritbot
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Change 352850 had a related patch set uploaded (by Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE); owner: Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)):
[mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseQualityConstraints@master] Make constraint report button framed

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-09 Thread Izno
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People are used to notifications with numbers--even if they don't need it, it's a bit of a surprise to open a little triangle of doom and find that your triangle is really 10 triangles (not that such a doom and gloom case is to be expected).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164831EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_Dittrich, IznoCc: Izno, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Charlie_WMDE, gerritbot, Jan_Dittrich, QZanden, dachary, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-09 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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The question we really need to answer is: do we need the number at all? I don't believe we do. It only adds more noise to the already noisy UI.

If in user tests it turns out we do need it then it shouldn't be visually disconnected but for example inside the triangle.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164831EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_Dittrich, Lydia_PintscherCc: Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Charlie_WMDE, gerritbot, Jan_Dittrich, QZanden, dachary, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-09 Thread Jan_Dittrich
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Assumption: Making the errors disappear is motivating, so giving an indicator how far one needs to go, maybe a nice thing.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164831EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_DittrichCc: Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Charlie_WMDE, gerritbot, Jan_Dittrich, QZanden, dachary, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T164831: Investigate Design of the Icon

2017-05-09 Thread Jan_Dittrich
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Alternatives as created by @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE  
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