[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T211130: Permanent link to a Wikidata query result

[Smalyshev]

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  You may run the query and then store it on wiki as tabular data 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T211130: Permanent link to a Wikidata query result

[Wittylama]

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Those are viable options for making the results of a query “permanent” @abian - thank you for putting the time into thinking about the problem. The second option is quit clever and solves 90% of what I’m suggesting. However...

What is missing is “authority” of the stable revision. Using listeria to make a wiki page and then linking to a specific revision is a perfect workaround to do what I’m asking - and proves such a thing is possible - but it requires the user personally use a separate tool to create a separate “unofficial” page and link to an unverifiable result.

Imagine, for example, if we didn’t have stable revision urls for Wikipedia articles, but instead, we told people that the way they could permanently reference how a Wikipedia article looked at a specific time was to “copy the page into your own user subpage, save, and then link to THAT revision (and repeat every time you want to get a new updated version.” This WOULD give you the correct/same information, it WOULD be a stable way to refer to a Wikipedia article at a specific time, but it would be annoying effort for the user AND not have any authority/trustworthiness associated with that stable URL. The user could have potentially changed the data.

So... just like we use the stable revision urls of Wikipedia articles as a very important feature of the trustworthiness of Wikipedia articles (even though you COULD copy the article and make your own subpage that is stable) so to I believe we need the same thing for wikidata queries to make an easy and unambiguously “authoritative” version for a query result.

I understand that it shouldn’t be “automatically” created for every wikidata query (that would be computationally too heavy), but “on request” to get a stable link to a STABLE result.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T211130: Permanent link to a Wikidata query result

[abian]

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Currently you can get this by either:


downloading the results from query.wikidata.org (programatically or with the UI) or
using Listeria on wiki and linking the corresponding revision (example: https://www.wikidata.org/?oldid=802366863) in case you want to run the same query at different points in time.


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