[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
Lea_Lacroix_WMDE added a comment. JsonLD is now enabled on beta, see announcementTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscott, Lea_Lacroix_WMDECc: Smalyshev, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Realworldobject, Eroux108, Multichill, thiemowmde, Tpt, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Prtksxna, gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Nickleh, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
gerritbot added a comment. Change 384050 merged by jenkins-bot: [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Enable JSON-LD entity export https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/384050TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscott, gerritbotCc: Smalyshev, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Realworldobject, Eroux108, Multichill, thiemowmde, Tpt, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Prtksxna, gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Nickleh, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
gerritbot added a comment. Change 384050 had a related patch set uploaded (by C. Scott Ananian; owner: C. Scott Ananian): [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Enable JSON-LD entity export https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/384050TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscott, gerritbotCc: Realworldobject, Eroux108, Multichill, thiemowmde, Tpt, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Prtksxna, gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
thiemowmde added a comment. I removed this ticket from our sprint boards for the moment. The only remaining patch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/384050 is work in progress, but I do not find it obvious what exactly is needed to get it out of that state. I suggest to focus on the not yet closed sub-tickets instead, and possibly create more sub-tickets if needed. I also see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/390321 waiting for an agreement. I'm willing to continue working on this patch, but it should be linked to a sub-ticket so we can properly track it.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscott, thiemowmdeCc: thiemowmde, Tpt, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Prtksxna, gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Lahi, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
gerritbot added a comment. Change 379669 merged by jenkins-bot: [purtle@master] Tweak JSON-LD support to generate more idiomatic JSON-LD https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/379669TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: Tpt, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Prtksxna, gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Lahi, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
cscott added a comment. @daniel RdfWriterFactory comes from purtle, and has already been patched to add .jsonld. The patch to Wikibase should look something like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/384050 but I can't test this locally.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscottCc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Prtksxna, gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
daniel added a comment. @cscott Yes, this needs a release, and a version bump in composer.json. Also, jsonld needs to be added to the default of the entityDataFormats setting in Wikibase.default.php (and possibly to production config). JSON-LD also need to be added to RdfWriterFactory. The code should be self-explanatory. I can do the release, but you'll probably want to wait until the "tweak" patch is in. But I can't review it, I have no clue if it's doing the right thing. A +1 from someone who knows more about JSON-LD would help.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: danielCc: Prtksxna, gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
cscott added a comment. The patch has been merged, but https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q142.jsonld doesn't work yet. I assume a new version of purtle needs to be released, then wikidata's composer.json patched to require it? (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/379669 is still waiting for review as well.)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscottCc: Prtksxna, gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
gerritbot added a comment. Change 379669 had a related patch set uploaded (by C. Scott Ananian; owner: C. Scott Ananian): [purtle@master] Tweak JSON-LD support to generate more idiomatic JSON-LD https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/379669TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
gerritbot added a comment. Change 379509 merged by jenkins-bot: [purtle@master] Minor code structure clean ups in JsonLdRdfWriter https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/379509TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
gerritbot added a comment. Change 371446 merged by jenkins-bot: [purtle@master] Add JSON-LD support. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/371446TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
gerritbot added a comment. Change 379509 had a related patch set uploaded (by Thiemo Mättig (WMDE); owner: Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)): [purtle@master] Minor code structure clean ups in JsonLdRdfWriter https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/379509TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
gerritbot added a comment. Change 371446 had a related patch set uploaded (by C. Scott Ananian; owner: C. Scott Ananian): [purtle@master] Add JSON-LD support. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/371446TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: gerritbot, PokestarFan, cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
daniel added a comment. @cscott you said "I believe JSON-LD is just an alternate representation of the RDF data" - that's exactly the problem. That RDF would not be compatible with our manually defined RDF mapping. It would have a different semantic grounding. We would end up with two incompatible RDF models. To avoid this, our JSON-LD would have to be based on our RDF binding, not our native JSON. So it would look very different from our native JSON (and would probably be much more complex).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: danielCc: cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
cscott added a comment. @daniel I don't think they are incompatible. They are both W3C standards; I believe JSON-LD is just an alternate representation of the RDF data. In fact, it ought to be "more compatible" than publishing an alternate JSON representation which is *not* grounded semantically. But I'm quickly leaving my depth here: if you think it would be helpful I can connect you to the editor of the JSON-LD spec (who I met at the I Annotate conference at the beginning of the month) who'd be better placed to answer.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscottCc: cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
daniel added a comment. @cscott making our JSON LD-compatible by just adding @context sounds tempting. But if I understand correctly, this would mean we now have two incompatible RDF representations of our data. That sounds like asking for trouble.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: danielCc: cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T44063: [Epic] Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities
cscott added a comment. I'm investigating making https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FileAnnotations implement the W3C standard for annotations ( https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/ ) and REST API ( https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-protocol/ ). These are based on the LinkedData standard, so it seems the functionality in this bug would be a prerequisite. At the moment, I'm stuck on supplying a proper LD context for Wikidata properties. As I understand it, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q142.ttl uses wdt:P18 and wdt is http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/ so in theory an application/ld+json request to http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/ ought to return a proper context which would let me use "@type": "P18" in the LD json of my annotation. Does that make sense? I'm still very new to this linked data stuff.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44063EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscottCc: cscott, Liuxinyu970226, intracer, Aklapper, AnjaJentzsch, Abraham, Denny, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
