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Change 218142 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mjbmr):
Add Goan Konkani Language

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/218142


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Change 218143 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mjbmr):
Add Goan Konkani Language

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/218143


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Change 206083 merged by jenkins-bot:
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https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/206083/


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Which patch is it?


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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1363832, @Nemo_bis wrote:

> > So we're blocked on i18n setting up the language
>
>
> What do you mean? There was a patch ready to merge which I +1, though it 
> might have been messed up with since.


I'm not interested in whether there's a patch "ready to merge" - you won't 
catch me merging it, I'm only interested in when it arrives in WMF production, 
unless the language engineering team thinks it's unnecessary.


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> So we're blocked on i18n setting up the language


What do you mean? There was a patch ready to merge which I +1, though it might 
have been messed up with since.


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Update: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100527 was figured out, and we no 
longer have to worry about that backport. So we're blocked on i18n setting up 
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@Krenair -- Translations of core are now at 22%.I believe it's time to hit 
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@Krenair: Translations for core exported from translatewiki.net. Language added 
with I384b3a14b232b346096066d678d84f7742b6d4c2


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@Ijon This is Goan Konkani (गोवा कोंकणी) and the official script in Goa is 
Devanagari.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/goa-firm-on-implementation-of-official-language-act/article1346846.ece


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The Konkani language is most certainly not written only in Devanagari, @Mjbmr, 
though Devanagari is the version with contributors at the moment, and the one 
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The language should not be called "Konkani" should be called "Goan Konkani", 
what's the exact equal in native?

We have to merge gom-deva into gom and remove gom-latn since it's only written 
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[X] DNS - done by ops
[X] Apache config - nothing to do for this particular task, since it's just a 
simple language addition
[X] MW config - seems ready to go
[ ] Wait for translations to be sorted out
[ ] Actually sync the config and addWiki.php - I think we will need to schedule 
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There are a lot of other languages in MediaWiki that have less translations 
than Konkani language.


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I was planning to just do the deployment side (config, maintenance script, 
etc.) once the language is actually imported to production. I don't  think 
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I think the ops part in this was only adding it to DNS which is done and the 
mwconfig part is more -releng., or?


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I have encourage the community to continue localization of messages to reach at 
least the threshold of 18% of MW core.  It is up to 16.6% now, and more 
progress will follow in the coming days.


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They know, and you not them.


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Well then why are you saying that they're waiting?


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@MF-Warburg, I know they are not the people who can create the new wiki.


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Apart from the fact that Glaisher and Nemo are not the people who can create 
the new wiki, it still does not seem wise to create a wiki whose language is 
still not exported, i.e. unknown to the software.


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@Nemo_bis @Glaisher I don't see any reason why you guys are waiting.


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Change 207430 merged by Nikerabbit:
Add namespace aliases for gom-deva

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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1251881, @Krenair wrote:

> So before we create this wiki, we need those translations to be approved and 
> deployed, right?


Right.. but it'll only be deployed once the threshold has been reached and 
currently it's below it. (16%)

In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1254204, @Visdaviva wrote:

> While the community will take on localization sprints, are there any further 
> important messages that should be prioritized? Would be helpful if a link to 
> those messages is provided. Thanks!


Once all the messages in mostused group is translated, it'll certainly be above 
the threshold for exporting to core.. Even if mostused is not 100%, other 
messages in core group 

 can also be translated so that it can be above the threshold.


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@Nemo_bis the Konkani community has already done 91% of the Mediawiki (most 
important messages) of this 80% were reviewed. See here 
https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&language=gom-deva&group=core-0-mostused&filter=translated&action=translate
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So before we create this wiki, we need those translations to be approved and 
deployed, right?


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> since they *have* reached the threshold some time ago


Impossible, or the locale would have been exported, per 
https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:MediaWiki .
Most of the activity was on 2015-03-15 or before and on that day gom-deva 
reached 15.48 % 
,
 not 18 %.


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Change 207430 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mjbmr):
Add namespace aliases for gom-deva

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207430


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@Glaisher and everyone, here are the translations for Module and Module talk, 
contributed by Konkani editor Darshan:

"Module"-  मापदंड

"Module talk"-  मापदंड चर्चा


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fwiw, i don't see a reason for the "we usually do all the configuration in one 
patch"-rule. why couldn't i just set the logo while on it without having to 
know the answer to all other config questions?


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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96468#1222975, @Krenair wrote:

> - Sanitarium config (@Coren/@Springle? This needs your confirmation)


Sanitarium is ready.

Not yet confirmed for labs replica views, but that need not block the wiki 
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@Glaisher done uploaded a newer version of the logo. Let me know if there is 
anything else that I could help with.


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btw, patch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206083 must be merged first and 
pushed to wmf/1.26wmf2 branch of mediawiki.


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@Visdaviva Since we already have a patch with a link to the Commons file, to 
make things simple, if you want to upload a logo, please upload it on top of 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-gom.svg and 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-gom.png Thanks.


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