[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99820: [Task] Add reference to ontology.owl to the RDF output
mkroetzsch added a comment. In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99820#1820662, @daniel wrote: > Looking at the link, it seems to me we'd (trivially) meet these requirements. Yes, that's what I meant. :-) > But I'm not sure about the fine details, e.g. regarding the version IRI. But > if you are sure we are meeting the formal requirements, fine with me. The version IRI is an optional aspect that we can include if we have a good one (I guess we might). We should give an ontology IRI and say that it is of type owl:ontology. Other bits of information about this ontology can be added, but there are not many requirements there. There is also not so much said in the standard about how to version ontologies in general, so this is something left to us. > We should then probably explicitly state that the dump is an ontology, > though... Not sure on which level you mean this. In RDF or in the user documentation? I thought that this discussion was about stating this in RDF, and this would already be "explicit". I am not sure it needs much documentation elsewhere. Mainly, we are putting this in to have a place where we can have the license (user requested feature) and other meta information (like export date and imported version of the Wikibase ontology). I agree that we should mention these features in the documentation. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99820 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: mkroetzsch Cc: gerritbot, Aklapper, mkroetzsch, daniel, Smalyshev, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99820: [Task] Add reference to ontology.owl to the RDF output
gerritbot added a comment. Change 246130 merged by jenkins-bot: Add importing OWL ontology https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246130 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99820 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: gerritbot Cc: gerritbot, Aklapper, mkroetzsch, daniel, Smalyshev, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99820: [Task] Add reference to ontology.owl to the RDF output
daniel added a comment. @mkroetzsch Looking at the link, it seems to me we'd (trivially) meet these requirements. But I'm not sure about the fine details, e.g. regarding the version IRI. But if you are sure we are meeting the formal requirements, fine with me. We should then probably explicitly state that the dump is an ontology, though... TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99820 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel Cc: gerritbot, Aklapper, mkroetzsch, daniel, Smalyshev, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99820: [Task] Add reference to ontology.owl to the RDF output
daniel added a comment. Copy of the question I asked on the patch: > It seems like owl:imports requires an ontology as its subject. Is it correct > to claim that the dump is an ontology? ...and if we consider our data dump to be an ontology, then what //isn't// an ontology? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99820 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel Cc: gerritbot, Aklapper, mkroetzsch, daniel, Smalyshev, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99820: [Task] Add reference to ontology.owl to the RDF output
Smalyshev added a comment. Pretty much everything is, as I understand - "ontology" is the synonym for "graph" in OWL, so every OWL data set is an ontology, pretty much. But if you really feel uncomfortable with that one, I can drop the ontology part and only leave the OWL part. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99820 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Smalyshev Cc: gerritbot, Aklapper, mkroetzsch, daniel, Smalyshev, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99820: [Task] Add reference to ontology.owl to the RDF output
mkroetzsch added a comment. > ...and if we consider our data dump to be an ontology, then what isn't an > ontology? The word "ontology" has different meanings in different contexts. Here, we only mean the notion of "ontology" meant by the term owl:ontology as used in the W3C OWL standard. As Stas says, this is essentially nothing more than a OWL collection of OWL-compatible statements (called "OWL axioms" in the standard). No deeper meaning involved. See http://www.w3.org/TR/owl2-syntax/#Ontologies for a definition. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99820 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: mkroetzsch Cc: gerritbot, Aklapper, mkroetzsch, daniel, Smalyshev, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99820: [Task] Add reference to ontology.owl to the RDF output
gerritbot added a subscriber: gerritbot. gerritbot added a comment. Change 246130 had a related patch set uploaded (by Smalyshev): Add importing OWL ontology https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246130 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99820 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: gerritbot Cc: gerritbot, Aklapper, mkroetzsch, daniel, Smalyshev, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, JanZerebecki ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
