[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272357: [Story] Allow wikibases to not populate the wb_changes table if it is not going to be used

[Addshore]

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  I can get behind that.
  So the situation will get better once T272356 
 is done

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272357: [Story] Allow wikibases to not populate the wb_changes table if it is not going to be used

[LucasWerkmeister]

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  FWIW, I don’t think the default should change at all. Once T272356 
 is done, the size of the wb_changes 
table should stay within reasonable limits anyways – it’s nice if site admins 
can prune it even further by disabling writes to it if they want, but I don’t 
think change dispatching should be broken by default.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272357: [Story] Allow wikibases to not populate the wb_changes table if it is not going to be used

[despens]

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  I'm not quite understanding what this is supposed to be fixing. Would changes 
in Wikibase Items trigger a cache purge of local sitelink'ed pages, without 
having to set up the whole notification system?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272357: [Story] Allow wikibases to not populate the wb_changes table if it is not going to be used

[Michael]

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[Addshore]

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  This was raised with Sam has having a possible negative user impact and Sam 
thanks us for that.
  Part of this ticket should include notes that we would include in the release 
notes (this default is changing, and this is what it means)
  
  In ticket polishing we also discussed the fact that we could probably add a 
nice little warning to the 2 maintenance scripts that interact with this table 
if they get run and this setting is false!

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272357: [Story] Allow wikibases to not populate the wb_changes table if it is not going to be used

[Addshore]

Addshore moved this task from legacy-backlog to Discussion on the wdwb-tech 
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