[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T299904: Babel language fallbacks do not distinguish between explicit and implicit language fallbacks

2022-03-29 Thread Manuel 
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  F35028297: image.png 
  
  Fixed! :)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T299904: Babel language fallbacks do not distinguish between explicit and implicit language fallbacks

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T299904: Babel language fallbacks do not distinguish between explicit and implicit language fallbacks

2022-01-31 Thread gerritbot 
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  Change 756620 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Add explicit and implicit fallbacks to 
chain separately
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/756620

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T299904: Babel language fallbacks do not distinguish between explicit and implicit language fallbacks

2022-01-25 Thread Manuel 
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  @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE: Let's go with the safe option that you suggested to 
ensure that we can make mul happen in time! \o/
  
  I have moved the more thorough changes of the fallback chain to a dedicated 
ticket: T300059 

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T299904: Babel language fallbacks do not distinguish between explicit and implicit language fallbacks

2022-01-25 Thread Manuel 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T299904: Babel language fallbacks do not distinguish between explicit and implicit language fallbacks

2022-01-24 Thread Manuel 
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  @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE: Thank you for adding the pseudo-code! It really 
helps to understand what is actually going on. I have given this some more 
thought, in the hopes to make it more robust and intuitive.
  
  I would suggest the following priorities:
  
  1. Babel language level
  2. Babel itself
  3. explicit fallbacks
  4. less specific locales
  5. more specific locales
  6. implicit fallback locales
  
  Some pseudo-code to clarify (codes are only added if new):
  
- for each Babel language level:
 - for each locale on this language level:
   - add the locale itself
 - for each locale on this language level:
   - add the locale’s **explicit fallbacks** 
 - for all locales in the list so far:
   - add all less specific locales
 - for all locales in the list so far:
   - add all more specific locales
- add **implicit fallback locales** (mul > en)
  
  I hope this will give us the best results based on the information that we 
have. I shared a document with you that illustrates the different outcomes. 
Also: This might still work if we included the locales that are requested by 
the browser at some point in the future.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T299904: Babel language fallbacks do not distinguish between explicit and implicit language fallbacks

2022-01-24 Thread Manuel 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T299904: Babel language fallbacks do not distinguish between explicit and implicit language fallbacks

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T299904: Babel language fallbacks do not distinguish between explicit and implicit language fallbacks

2022-01-24 Thread gerritbot 
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  Change 756620 had a related patch set uploaded (by Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE); 
author: Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)):
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Add explicit and implicit fallbacks to 
chain separately
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/756620

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T299904: Babel language fallbacks do not distinguish between explicit and implicit language fallbacks

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T299904: Babel language fallbacks do not distinguish between explicit and implicit language fallbacks

2022-01-24 Thread Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE 
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  As a Wikidata editor, I want to see labels in languages that are relevant to 
me, according to my Babel information.
  
  **Problem:**
  I noticed this while working on T297393 
: 
`LanguageFallbackChainFactory::buildFromBabel()` first adds the babel 
languages, then their variants, and then for each language all of the 
fallbacks. This means that the implicit fallback to `en` is added after all the 
explicit fallbacks of the first Babel language, but before the explicit 
fallbacks of any other Babel languages.
  
  **Example:**
  Consider a user with the following Babel. **arz-5, frc-4**. (`arz` Egyptian 
Arabic falls back to `ar` Arabic; `frc` Cajun French falls back to `fr` French.)
  I posit that they should get the following language fallback chain: arz, frc, 
ar, fr, en.
  However, they currently get the following fallback chain: arz, frc, ar, //en, 
fr//.
  
  **Screenshots/mockups:**
  
  name=maintenance/shell.php
>>> array_map( function ( $lwc ) { return $lwc->getLanguageCode(); }, 
\Wikibase\Repo\WikibaseRepo::getLanguageFallbackChainFactory()->buildFromBabel( 
[ '5' => [ 'arz' ], '4' => [ 'frc' ] ] ) )
=> [
 "arz",
 "frc",
 "ar",
 "en",
 "fr",
   ]
  
  **BDD**
  GIVEN 
  AND 
  WHEN
  AND
  THEN
  AND
  
  **Acceptance criteria:**
  
  - The Babel fallback chain lists the explicit language fallbacks of all Babel 
languages before any implicit fallbacks (`en` and, with T297393 
, `mul`) – unless the implicit 
fallbacks are also explicit fallbacks, of course (e.g. if the Babel includes 
`sco` Scots, which explicitly falls back to `en`).
  
  **Open questions:**

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