[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334026: [Session] Schemas for medical entities

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334026: [Session] Schemas for medical entities

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  Session Notes:
  
  Schemas for medical entities
  
  
  Date & time: Saturday, May 20th at 10:00 am EEST / 7:00 am UTC
  
  Relevant links
  --
  
  - Phabricator task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334026
  - 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen/Schemas_for_medical_entities
  - Entity Schemas directory: 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/EntitySchema_directory
  - EntitySchema generator: 
https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/entityschema-generator/
  
  Participants
  
  
  - Daniel Mietchen
  - Elwin Huaman
  
  Notes
  -
  
  Number of sessions on schemas but not a session on how to adapt schemas for a 
particular field
  
  Look at medical schema, made a list of shape expressions that are 
theoretically useful
  [looking at the wikidatapage - put the link later]
  
  might have detailed info on the patient
  some information is not on wikidata and might never be on wikidata
  
  what schemas are available
  [looking at the schema links from the documentation]
  
  wants to get feedback on what others think would be useful in the space
  
  entity schema directory
  
  [looking at medical schemas from the available schema list from the 
documentation]
  its a mix of things no systematics to it
  look at the indivual schema they differ in style and other aspects, but how 
can we standardize this
  references arent used in a standarized way
  
  he is wondering what the best approach is and feedback on how to the schemas 
in a certain field to converge better
  sometimes vaiables start with # and sometimes no #
  sometimes variables have explanations and sometimes they dont
  
  shape expressions do allow you to standardize
  they also can be used for quality control
  
  issues with existing schemas
  [looking at three of the hospitals linked in the documentation]
  the data is in different languages
  sometimes the data is in one chunk and sometimes the data is pointing to 
other places
  
  question for the user - what one of these to use
  the Japanese user doesn't know about the Malaysian user
  how to inform them about each other
  
  [looking at the dependency tree]
  
  - how to relationships between schemas link to relationships between entities
  
  Praticial issues
  Findability
  its hard to find things
  [looking at the sparql query]
  
  There are sandbox schemas
  anyone can come in and change things
  there is no documentation so its complicated to work with
  
  Scalability
  
  Question 
  there is an entity schema generator
  tools-static.wmflabs -> find the rest of the link
  https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/entityschema-generator/
  There is a testing tool you can then use to test your schema
  
https://shex-simple.toolforge.org/wikidata/packages/shex-webapp/doc/shex-simple.html?data=Endpoint:%20https://query.wikidata.org/sparql&hideData&manifest=[]&textMapIsSparqlQuery&schemaURL=%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fwiki%2FSpecial%3AEntitySchemaText%2FE10

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LJ, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, SandraF_WMF, Andrawaag, GoranSMilovanovic, 
Chicocvenancio, QZanden, YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, Salgo60, TomT0m, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334026: [Session] Schemas for medical entities

[SpyridonKokotos]

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Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Daniel_Mietchen, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, 
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Akuckartz, MGerlach, pdehaye, Nandana, Moebeus, kostajh, LJ, lucamauri, Lahi, 
Gq86, SandraF_WMF, Andrawaag, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, 
YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, Salgo60, TomT0m, _jensen, rosalieper, 
Jneubert, Scott_WUaS, Susannaanas, MisterSynergy, Fuzheado, Myst, Magioladitis, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334026: [Session] Schemas for medical entities

[SpyridonKokotos]

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  Below you may find the link attached that redirects the user to the 
corresponding Etherpad: 
https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmh2023-Schemas_for_medical_entities

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Akuckartz, MGerlach, pdehaye, Nandana, Moebeus, kostajh, LJ, lucamauri, Lahi, 
Gq86, SandraF_WMF, Andrawaag, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, 
YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, Salgo60, TomT0m, _jensen, rosalieper, 
Jneubert, Scott_WUaS, Susannaanas, MisterSynergy, Fuzheado, Myst, Magioladitis, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334026: [Session] Schemas for medical entities

[Daniel_Mietchen]

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  I have now added 

 this to the 10-10:30 slot on Saturday.

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Moebeus, kostajh, LJ, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, SandraF_WMF, Andrawaag, 
GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, Salgo60, 
TomT0m, _jensen, rosalieper, Jneubert, Scott_WUaS, Susannaanas, MisterSynergy, 
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Moebeus, kostajh, LJ, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, SandraF_WMF, Andrawaag, 
GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, Salgo60, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334026: [Session] Schemas for medical entities

[srishakatux]

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  Hello! There is now additional space available for you to schedule a session: 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023/Program#Schedule (See 
"Small Hacking Room Corner (up to 20 participants)"). If you are still 
interested in organizing a session, you can claim this slot on a first-come, 
first-serve basis. There may not be any AV equipment in this small room, just a 
bunch of tables, and the room might be separated from the big hacking room with 
a bunch of dividers.

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maantietaja, Zblace, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, MGerlach, pdehaye, Nandana, 
Moebeus, kostajh, LJ, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, SandraF_WMF, Andrawaag, 
GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, Salgo60, 
TomT0m, _jensen, rosalieper, Jneubert, Scott_WUaS, Susannaanas, MisterSynergy, 
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[srishakatux]

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  Thanks for this proposal! All proposed sessions couldn't become part of the 
agenda published today due to limited space, including yours. I'll ping here if 
a room becomes available to organize remaining or impromptu sessions.

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Moebeus, kostajh, LJ, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, SandraF_WMF, Andrawaag, 
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srishakatux, YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, Salgo60, TomT0m, _jensen, 
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