[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334249: merge.js needs to automatically remove “Wikimedia disambiguation page” descriptions

2023-04-10 Thread Bugreporter 
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  In T334249#8766976 , 
@Tacsipacsi wrote:
  
  > Actually it’s not even a default gadget (although it may make sense to make 
it one…).
  
  See T140124: Enable Merge gadget as default 


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334249: merge.js needs to automatically remove “Wikimedia disambiguation page” descriptions

2023-04-09 Thread Tacsipacsi 
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  In T334249#8766640 , 
@Al12si wrote:
  
  > merge.js is a standard Wikidata applet..
  
  Actually it’s not even a default gadget (although it may make sense to make 
it one…).
  
  In T334249#8766653 , 
@Al12si wrote:
  
  > When a disambiguation item on Wikidata has only one link to one Wikipedia 
page and that Wikipedia page ceases to be a disambiguation item, the Wikidata 
disambiguation item ceases to serve any function and need to be merged.
  
  It doesn’t need to be merged. Items that are about the same concept need to 
be merged, not items that serve no purpose. If one item is about a real 
concept, while the other one is a technical item (the disambiguation item), 
they aren’t about the same concept.
  
  > If this should not be done merge.js should put up a big warning to never 
merge any disambiguation items — in which case this is still a UI bug in 
merge.js.
  
  This is a good idea. By the way, the UX of merge.js has several rough edges 
(e.g. when it does show an error/warning message, it’s often hard to 
understand), so it’s not surprising that there’s yet another one.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334249: merge.js needs to automatically remove “Wikimedia disambiguation page” descriptions

2023-04-08 Thread Aklapper 
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  In T334249#8766640 , 
@Al12si wrote:
  
  > Are you serious? merge.js is a standard Wikidata applet..
  
  I am serious. Nobody knows everything, and it's up to you to provide 
sufficient context that this is about some **gadget** on a specific website. 
Thanks.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334249: merge.js needs to automatically remove “Wikimedia disambiguation page” descriptions

2023-04-08 Thread Al12si 
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  In T334249#8766163 , 
@Tacsipacsi wrote:
  
  > Disambiguation items (items having P31 
 = Q4167410 
) are conceptually different from 
non-disambiguation items.
  
  They are not. Disambiguation items simply means the items was once considered 
a synonym in some language. Even in the same language, the item could later be 
found to represent a general concept that can be expanded to a full article, in 
which case the item in that language ceases to be a disabmbiguation item.
  
  When a disambiguation item on Wikidata has only one link to one Wikipedia 
page and that Wikipedia page ceases to be a disambiguation item, the Wikidata 
disambiguation item ceases to serve any function and need to be merged. If this 
shold not be done merge.js should put up a big warning to never merge any 
disambiguation items.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334249: merge.js needs to automatically remove “Wikimedia disambiguation page” descriptions

2023-04-08 Thread Al12si 
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  In T334249#8765366 , 
@Aklapper wrote:
  
  > @Al12si: What is "merge.js" or where to find it? Please do **include links 
if applicable**. Thanks.
  
  Are you serious? merge.js is a standard Wikipedia applet..

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334249: merge.js needs to automatically remove “Wikimedia disambiguation page” descriptions

2023-04-08 Thread Tacsipacsi 
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  Disambiguation items (items having P31 
 = Q4167410 
) are conceptually different from 
non-disambiguation items. An item is a disambiguation item exactly if it has 
this statement; it doesn’t matter whether the pages connected to it are or have 
been disambiguation pages. Wikidata strives to provide stable IDs, which fails 
if disambiguation and non-disambiguation items are merged. So the solution is 
not to merge the items, but move the sitelinks as necessary.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334249: merge.js needs to automatically remove “Wikimedia disambiguation page” descriptions

2023-04-07 Thread 1234qwer1234qwer4 
1234qwer1234qwer4 added a comment.


  This is about https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-Merge.js. 
However, I do not understand what is meant by a
  
  > “disambiguation page” Wikidata item that needs to be merged (e.g., that is 
not really a disambiguation page)
  
  and there is no example edit for the supposed bug.
  
  > Alternatively, “Wikipedia disambiguation page” descriptions should be 
disallowed and removed from Wikidata. All disambiguation pages represent some 
actual concept in some languages
  
  is a controversial opinion not to be discussed here (FWIW disambiguation 
pages are supposed to be separated between e.g. different scripts).

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