[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334558: [Analytics] Unique user-agents accessing Wikidata's REST API for Q2/2023

2024-04-08 Thread Manuel 
Manuel closed subtask T341330:  [Analytics] Airflow implementation of unique 
ips accessing Wikidata's REST API metrics as "Resolved".

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2024-03-14 Thread Manuel 
Manuel changed the status of subtask T341330:  [Analytics] Airflow 
implementation of unique ips accessing Wikidata's REST API metrics from 
"Stalled" to "Open".

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2023-10-17 Thread Manuel 
Manuel changed the status of subtask T341330:  [Analytics] Airflow 
implementation of unique ips accessing Wikidata's REST API metrics from 
"Open" to "Stalled".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334558: [Analytics] Unique user-agents accessing Wikidata's REST API for Q2/2023

2023-07-24 Thread Manuel 
Manuel moved this task from Needs product input to Needs product sign-off on 
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  > The above was still do be done
  
  Ah, I see! Yes, I agree, we have talked about this and we are trying out 30 
rolling unique IPs as a part of the Airflow version.
  
  So we are done here.^^

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2023-07-24 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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  > [ ] Let's discuss what we can do to make the metric more robust and 
reliable (e.g. exclude browser user agents)
  
  The above was still do be done, but I'd say it's finished and this is good to 
close :)

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2023-07-24 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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2023-07-24 Thread Manuel 
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  Are there still open questions that need my input or are we done and I only 
need to sign off (and close) the task?

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2023-07-18 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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2023-07-18 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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  Sure, I'll head over to T341330  
and edit the task so it's aligned with what we discussed :)

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2023-07-18 Thread Manuel 
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  Thank you!
  
  About T341330 :
  
  - We last aligned on creating running 30 days only for unique IPs and not for 
user agents (as they are not robust enough for continuous monitoring).
  - That means that we will need the unique user agents only for the 2023 
reporting (per month, filtered plus potentially manual data cleaning).
  
  Could you modify the subtask accordingly?

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2023-07-14 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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  It's now the following:
  
  > filtering out `user_agent` values that match bot generated versions
  
  Let me know if you'd like me to post the query here as well :)

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2023-07-14 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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2023-07-14 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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  Hey @Manuel 👋 `126` and `122` are a result of what it is that we aligned on, 
yes :) I just didn't update the description properly. Will do so now 😊

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2023-07-13 Thread Manuel 
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  @AndrewTavis_WMDE: Thx for the update! We last aligned on completely removing 
all user agents that fit the malicious pattern. Are 126 for June and 122 for 
May the result of this? I am asking because the tasks description says 
"filtering out **ips** with user_agent values that match bot generated 
versions".

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2023-07-13 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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  @Manuel, the task has now been updated with all the metrics. Took a bit for 
all the queries to run :) Let me know if you have further thoughts on the final 
subtask:
  
  > [ ] Let's discuss what we can do to make the metric more robust and 
reliable (e.g. exclude browser user agents)

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2023-07-12 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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  For the initial report where we just want to count certain `user_agent` 
values as one via their ip:
  
  - Match it with regular expressions within the SQL as the initial try
  - Check Python packages that help with `user_agent` values

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2023-07-12 Thread Manuel 
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  > In talking a bit with folks at the Data Platform Engineering Office Hours 
the general sentiment was that WMF is currently hashing user_agent and ip for 
"unique" users, but that there's work to be done here.
  
  A hash of User Agent and IP would make no sense in our case, unfortunately. 
This would basically just result in a max overshoot.
  
  So it seems that the best we have so far is unique IPs. It is not ideal, as 
it will undershoot e.g. scripts that run on cloud infrastructure, and 
overshoots e.g. scripts that run in the browser of end users or with 
dynamically assigned IPs, but it's a solid candidate to accompany the original 
unique user_agent metric.
  
  For the original metric we need to filter out all user agents that follow the 
problematic pattern (e.g. by counting unique IPs instead of user agents 
whenever we see the problematic pattern).

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2023-07-11 Thread Manuel 
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  > Is the purpose of this metric to define unique users of the API?
  
  The purpose of the metric is to approximate unique developers that are using 
the new API, yes.
  
  > If at the end we're reporting unique users and we have the caveat that it's 
undershooting by thousands, then I think that for now it's ok to provide this 
information, but we really should consider reworking this metric. user_agent 
undershoots it by a lot and ip overshoots it by a lot, so neither really 
answers this story well.
  
  This exactly why wanted us to discuss potential alternatives to the original 
metric.  I am not certain by how much IP overshoots (may be by a lot, but maybe 
it's not that bad). We can also have more than one metric. There are also other 
aspects that are relevant, e.g. how much use there is per user.
  
  > Could be something that I could discuss with WMF though 🙃
  
  Sure, if you think they might have best practices about robustly measuring 
the unique users of their public APIs, this would help us for sure.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T334558: [Analytics] Unique user-agents accessing Wikidata's REST API for Q2/2023

2023-07-11 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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  In talking a bit with folks at the Data Platform Engineering Office Hours the 
general sentiment was that WMF is currently hashing `user_agent` and `ip` for 
"unique" users, but that there's work to be done here. There's a fair amount of 
entropy in this method, but then it does generally provide a better metric for 
reporting than either `user_agent` or `ip` alone. References on this:
  
  - 
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data_Lake/Traffic/Pageviews/Bots_Research
- Directly makes the hash in the query (three years is old for this to be a 
direct example)
  - https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data_Lake/Edits/Geoeditors
- Has an already hashed `user_agent` and `ip` column value in 
`user_fingerprint_or_name`
  
  The usage of (quote unquote) "unique" above comes from the fact that this is 
an imperfect process that is only getting more imperfect as the internet 
changes. Chrome for instance is apparently making changes to their user agents 
whereby there are more merges of users with the above methods, but they don't 
appear to have immediate plans to switch to anything else for reporting in the 
future. That `user_agent` appears to be getting only more problematic for the 
most popular browser would further point to a bit of a rethink on this. 
Continuing with the planned reporting is of course very reasonable though! 😊

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2023-07-11 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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  I'm still a bit confused. The above comment starts with the following:
  
  >> A selection of user_agent/ip pairs where each value can only occur once 
within the pairs
  
  
  
  > I don't think so: It's only the IP value that should only occur once. So a 
more robust metric than the original would likely not rely on user agents at 
all (e.g. unique IPs).
  
  ... and ends with this:
  
  > And this boils down to user_agent/ip pairs where each value can only occur 
once in the whole time period considered (e.g. last month/30d).
  
  You're more saying that each individual `user_agent` or `ip` can only occur 
once, and I'm more on any combination cannot include both a `user_agent` and an 
`ip` that aren't unique. To clarify where I think this leaves us though, at the 
end of this we want `user_agents`, but we just want them to be unique based on 
`ip` values.
  
  >> unique user_agent but multiple ip values
  
  
  
  > This will primarily be because of (multiple different) users using only 
default values for their user agent. Also, as you wrote, the same users' IPs 
changed by their provider. In the logic of the original metric we need to 
consider this as only one user_agent (likely underestimating what we are 
actually interested in).
  
  Specifically I'm thinking about the first clause in your comment above where 
we have everyone lumped into Python requests. Is the purpose of this metric to 
define unique users of the API? If so, then dramatically undershooting it when 
we have a way of correcting it via pairing the values is a bit confusing. The 
big question for me is what are we trying to say in the story here? If at the 
end we're reporting unique users and we have the caveat that it's undershooting 
by thousands, then I think that for now it's ok to provide this information, 
but we really should consider reworking this metric. `user_agent` undershoots 
it by a lot and `ip` overshoots it by a lot, so neither really answers this 
story well.
  
  Could be something that I could discuss with WMF though 🙃

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2023-07-11 Thread Manuel 
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  > A selection of user_agent/ip pairs where each value can only occur once 
within the pairs
  
  I don't think so: It's only the IP value that should only occur once. So a 
more robust metric than the original would likely not rely on user agents at 
all (e.g. unique IPs).
  
  But in addition to a new metric, we also want to keep reporting the original 
metric (so that we do not have to officially change the metric through all 
levels of the org hierarchy). For this we will need to consider the following:
  
  > unique user_agent and unique ip
  
  All is fine.
  
  > unique user_agent but multiple ip values
  
  This will primarily be because of (multiple different) users using only 
default values for their user agent. Also, as you wrote, the same users' IPs 
changed by their provider. In the logic of the original metric we need to 
consider this as only one user_agent (likely underestimating what we are 
actually interested in).
  
  > unique ip but multiple user_agent values
  
  If this happens too often (as we saw in the data recently) then this makes 
the original metric meaningless.. so if we wanted to continue to report 
something in the logic of the original metric, we would need to filter the 
additional user_agents out (and consider only one user_agent per IP).
  
  And this boils down to user_agent/ip pairs where each value can only occur 
once in the whole time period considered (e.g. last month/30d).
  
  Does this help?

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2023-07-10 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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  @Manuel, something else to explore would be to see if we could figure out a 
metric that links `user_agent` and `ip`. I'm a bit confused why we'd go through 
this and then still we have tons of unique individuals within Python's requests 
count. A breakdown:
  
  - User has unique `user_agent` and `ip`
- All's fine - select the `user_agent`/`ip` pair
  - User has unique `user_agent` and multiple `ip` values
- We're assuming that the `ip` value was changed by their provider and 
select one `user_agent`/`ip` pair
  - User has a unique `ip` but is using multiple `user_agent` values
- We select one of the `user_agent`/`ip` pairs assuming that it's unique 
and that the others are generated repeats
  
  This basically boils down to:
  
  - A selection of `user_agent`/`ip` pairs where each value can only occur once 
within the pairs
  
  For the above we'd get a few extra values based on those users who are 
generating and getting their `ip` switched, but then this might be better than 
dramatically undershooting our total user base? Yes it changes the metric, but 
the goal is an estimation of usage that the Python requests `user_agent` is 
masking.

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2023-07-10 Thread AndrewTavis_WMDE 
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  Checks that we could do to fix issues with users creating multiple 
`user_agent` would be:
  
  [ ] Switch this metric to counting unique `ip` values
  [ ] Count unique `user_agent` values, but only if they have a unique `ip`
- If they have a non-unique `ip`, then they would only count as one 
`user_agent`

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