[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T344362: Some Lexemes seem to miss styles/scripts. Can be "fixed" by purging.

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  This looks good to me :)
  
  Thanks so much

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  Should roll out with this week’s train.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T344362: Some Lexemes seem to miss styles/scripts. Can be "fixed" by purging.

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  Change 960564 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Split parser cache by desktop/mobile
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/960564

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[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

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  Oh, and some minor notes for debugging this locally:
  
  - If you don’t have a working termbox SSR service, you’ll want to comment out 
the call to `$parserOutput->updateCacheExpiry( 0 );` in 
`FullEntityParserOutputGenerator::addHtmlToParserOutput()`, otherwise mobile 
item or property page views won’t end up in the parser cache due to the broken 
termbox SSR. (If you’re switching between branches to try out parser cache 
behavior with vs. without the patch, make sure to do this on both branches.)
  - The parser cache is easier to understand when it’s in the database compared 
to e.g. memcached; I recommend `$wgParserCacheType = CACHE_DB`. Then you can 
inspect the `objectcache` table using the `mysql.php` maintenance script.
  - The parser cache is even easier to understand when its contents 
(`objectcache.value`) are not compressed; consider forcing `$this->hasZlib` to 
`false` in the `SqlBagOStuff` constructor. (You’ll want to `TRUNCATE TABLE 
objectcache;` after doing this, since it renders all existing cache entries 
unusable.)

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[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

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  > Now we just need to understand why the parser cache behaves the way it does 
(regenerate on mobile with the patch), and what the implications are 
(performance and otherwise).
  
  I think I understand it now. There’s been another revelation in the lab. 

  
  In T344362#9235648 , 
@Michael wrote:
  
  > looking at the details, I just realized that there might be a step missing. 
Did we make sure that Items and Properties did have a mobile parsercache (with 
mobile Termbox) before deploying the change? If not, then there would be no 
surprise about it being regenerated.
  
  
  
  In T344362#9235703 , 
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote:
  
  > I had loaded the mobile page before as well, yes – I added some more 
details in P52867#213725  
(that was supposed to be a before+after with `curl` but I got the server wrong; 
but at least it shows there was something in the mobile parser cache).
  
  Michael was right. As you can see in that paste, I had loaded the mobile page 
before //on mwdebug1001, in eqiad// – but I did all my testing on mwdebug2002, 
in codfw. eqiad and codfw have separate parser caches (AFAICT), so as far as 
mwdebug2002 was concerned, the parser cache for the items and properties was 
blank. And there is indeed no surprise about it being regenerated then.
  
  The reason that regenerating the mobile parser cache also invalidated the 
desktop parser cache is that, when the parser cache is saved, it doesn’t just 
add a new `pcache:idhash` entry to the parser cache (example: my local wiki has 
`wiki1:pcache:idhash:3231-0!termboxVersion=1!wb=3!en`, 
`wiki1:pcache:idhash:3231-0!termboxVersion=22!wb=3!en`, 
`wiki1:pcache:idhash:3231-0!termboxVersion=1!wb=3!wbMobile=0!en`, and more, all 
for the same page + revision), but also adds or updates the `idoptions` entry 
which records which parser options were used. Before, it may look like this:
  
MariaDB [wiki1]> SELECT value FROM objectcache WHERE keyname = 
'wiki1:pcache:idoptions:3231'\G
*** 1. row ***
value: 
s:180:"{"ParseUsedOptions":{"userlang":true,"wb":true,"termboxVersion":true},"CacheExpiry":86400,"CacheTime":"20231013133621","CacheRevisionId":6778,"_type_":"CacheTime","_complex_":true}";
1 row in set (0.001 sec)
  
  Whereas after the mobile parse, it may look like this instead:
  
MariaDB [wiki1]> SELECT value FROM objectcache WHERE keyname = 
'wiki1:pcache:idoptions:3231'\G
*** 1. row ***
value: 
s:196:"{"ParseUsedOptions":{"wbMobile":true,"userlang":true,"wb":true,"termboxVersion":true},"CacheExpiry":86400,"CacheTime":"20231013145932","CacheRevisionId":6778,"_type_":"CacheTime","_complex_":true}";
1 row in set (0.001 sec)
  
  The `wbMobile` option is now recorded as used, which is why the next desktop 
page view then also regenerates the parser cache (since the existing parser 
cache entry for the desktop doesn’t have this option).
  
  If you actually make sure that both desktop and mobile are in the parser 
cache, then deploying the code change won’t cause either type of page view to 
recalculate anything – they’ll both continue using the old parser cache 
entries. At least according to some testing on localhost; I don’t really want 
to repeat the test on mwdebug, to be honest. (Also, note that this is only 
about items and properties, where the parser cache is already split between 
desktop and mobile due to the `termboxVersion`. Lexemes have another, different 
problem with the parser cache, see T348872 
.)

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[Michael]

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  In T344362#9235716 , 
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote:
  
  > Oh, and I think I forgot to mention the most important part :D I repeated 
the steps from T344362#9194424 
 and was unable to reproduce 
the issue while the patch was applied on mwdebug2002.
  
  Great news!
  
  Now we just need to understand why the parser cache behaves the way it does 
(regenerate on mobile with the patch), and what the implications are 
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  Oh, and I think I forgot to mention the most important part :D I repeated the 
steps from T344362#9194424  
and was unable to reproduce the issue while the patch was applied on 
mwdebug2002.

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  I had loaded the mobile page before as well, yes – I added some more details 
in P52867#213725  (that was 
supposed to be a before+after with `curl` but I got the server wrong; but at 
least it shows there was something in the mobile parser cache).

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[Michael]

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  In T344362#9235624 , 
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote:
  
  > Quoting from the commit message of the change linked above:
  >
  >> Judging by some local testing, this should //not// effectively clear the 
parser cache: as far as I can tell, parser cache contents from before this code 
is deployed are still used for desktop page views afterwards (and the “Saved in 
parser cache” HTML comment indicates a cache key without `wbMobile`), but as 
soon as a mobile page view comes in, it removes the old parser cache content 
and adds one with `wbMobile=1`; the next desktop page view then generates a 
parser content with `wbMobile=0`.
  >
  > I just tested this on mwdebug2002 in production and it behaved the same way 
there. I put the details in P52867 , 
but basically, on items properties and lexemes, the desktop page views 
continued to serve the old parser cache content until I made a mobile request, 
at which point both desktop and mobile page views started to respond with new 
parser cache entries that had `wbMobile` in the key.
  >
  > Of course, this only tests the application-level cache; the HTTP-level 
cache can’t be tested with mwdebug.
  
  Thank you! But looking at the details, I just realized that there might be a 
step missing. Did we make sure that Items and Properties did have a mobile 
parsercache (with mobile Termbox) before deploying the change? If not, then 
there would be no surprise about it being regenerated.

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[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

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  Quoting from the commit message of the change linked above:
  
  > Judging by some local testing, this should //not// effectively clear the 
parser cache: as far as I can tell, parser cache contents from before this code 
is deployed are still used for desktop page views afterwards (and the “Saved in 
parser cache” HTML comment indicates a cache key without `wbMobile`), but as 
soon as a mobile page view comes in, it removes the old parser cache content 
and adds one with `wbMobile=1`; the next desktop page view then generates a 
parser content with `wbMobile=0`.
  
  I just tested this on mwdebug2002 in production and it behaved the same way 
there. I put the details in P52867 , 
but basically, on items properties and lexemes, the desktop page views 
continued to serve the old parser cache content until I made a mobile request, 
at which point both desktop and mobile page views started to respond with new 
parser cache entries that had `wbMobile` in the key.
  
  Of course, this only tests the application-level cache; the HTTP-level cache 
can’t be tested with mwdebug.

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[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

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  Note that the proposed patch above won’t immediately fix the issue for 
already-broken pages, but new instances of the issue should stop happening and 
old broken pages would fall out of the parser cache within a month (or rather, 
“temporarily” three weeks 
).
 We could accelerate this by proactively purging all lexemes 
,
 but at the current number of lexemes (over a million) and purge rate limit (30 
per minute), that would take almost a month, by which time the parser cache 
would have expired anyway – so I’m not sure that’s worth doing.

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  Change 960564 had a related patch set uploaded (by Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE); 
author: Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)):
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Split parser cache by desktop/mobile
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/960564

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  Alternatively, I suppose we could add `$parserOutput->recordOption( 
'termboxVersion' );`, to make the item/property “solution” work for lexemes as 
well.

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[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

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  And I think the only reason this doesn’t affect items and properties is that 
items and properties use the mobile termbox, and splitting the parser cache by 
termbox version (here 
)
 effectively splits it by desktop vs. mobile as well. But at least for lexemes, 
and probably in general, I think we need to split the parser cache by 
desktop/mobile explicitly, at least as long as we continue to have RL modules 
that should only be loaded on one target despite the ResourceLoader target 
system having been removed.
  
  name=https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q31529

  
  name=https://test.m.wikidata.org/wiki/Q31529


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[Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE]

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  Apparently the `wikibase.desktop` RL module is missing for some reason; 
manually loading it via the console mostly fixes the styles.
  
  And that means I’ve also found a way to reproduce this, reliably AFAICT:
  
  1. Go to L3690 on desktop Test Wikidata 

  2. Observe that it looks correct
  3. Go to purge L3690 on mobile Test Wikidata 

  4. Confirm purge
  5. Go back to desktop version 
  6. Observe that it looks broken
  
  Which means this is yet another fallout of T324991: Make Wikibase not rely on 
the ResourceLoader target system .

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[VIGNERON]

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  It just happened to me also (on many lexemes, including L1 
, L16 
, L3870 
 etc.).
  For some context, it appeared on multiple browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge) 
and also when log out.

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[karapayneWMDE]

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  notes: purging does not always fix the issue on its own; however, clearing 
the browser caches does

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  In case it may have something to do with a particular trait of a lexeme, I 
have encountered it on L4177 (you'll see my (User:Ijon) recent edits there, 
after which the display returned to normal (but not before).

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  **Steps to replicate the issue** (include links if applicable):
  
  - cannot reliably reproduce it yet, but seems to happen pretty frequently, 
likely somehow involving caching
  
  **What happens?**:
  
  **What should have happened instead?**:
  
  **Other information** (browser name/version, screenshots, etc.):
  
  - first known report of this on July 21. 2023

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