Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Gregor Hagedorn 
Great work, my congratulations!


---
Some first impressions:

Changing the language does not really work, the title of the item
pages remain in English.

http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?setlang=de
->
(Unterschied | Versionen) . . Sweden (Q34); 17:48 . . (+32) . .
Aplasia (Diskussion | Beiträge) (Fügte websitespezifischen [itwiki]
Link hinzu:  Paesi Bassi)

although http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34 does list de: Schweden.

I am not sure whether this is a bug or by design?

-

In German, translation of "Item" with "Datenelement" = data element
seems odd, a data element is usually something much smaller and
atomic. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datenelement

Proposal: "Artikel" or "Datenobjekt"

-

Change  http://www.wikidata.org/ to http://wikidata.org/ ?



I think the logo image (upper left corner) looks a bit lost, 10%
larger perhaps? It is not even left aligned with the menu text below,
which has ample margin



Finally: The "Q###" will become the public face of Wikidata, whereever
it is re-used. I think this "brand" should be less cryptic and use:

http://wikidata.org/wiki/WD34 or http://wikidata.org/wiki/W34

(providing a memnonic link to Wikidata) instead of current

http://wikidata.org/wiki/Q34


Gregor

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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Dario Taraborelli 
\o/ congrats to the whole team, this is awesome!.

Can we make en the default UI language?

On Oct 30, 2012, at 2:49 AM, Lydia Pintscher  
wrote:

> Heya folks :)
> 
> The Wikidata team is excited to let you know that http://wikidata.org
> is now online and running the repository code \o/ You can now create
> items and add language links to the various Wikipedias to them. Thank
> you to everyone who helped.
> There are some caveats! We're still testing things and fixing minor
> bugs. Please let us know about any problems you find and go easy on
> the new wiki.
> 
> We're now working on phase two (infoboxes) and at the same time are
> working on getting the client ready for deployment on the Hungarian
> Wikipedia. I unfortunately can't yet give you a date for when that'll
> happen.)
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Lydia
> 
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Re: [Wikidata-l] [Toolserver-l] Welcome: wikidata

2012-10-30 Thread DaB. 
Hello again,

[crosspost to wikidata-l]

At Tuesday 30 October 2012 17:16:45 DaB. wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> wikidata has made it on the toolserver today. The database is called
> "wikidatawiki_p" (don't ask me…) and its is home on s3. Because I guessed
> that many joins to it will happen in future, I created also copies on all
> clusters with the exception of s6 and s7 (will happen later); so you can
> join it in the same way as commons.

I found the following additional useful tables in the wikidata-database and 
created views for them. If I missed something, please tell me. I also 
interested in an URL to the wikidata-table-documentation.

*site_identifiers
*sites
*wb_changes
*wb_id_counters
*wb_items_per_site
*wb_terms

Sincerely,
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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Lydia Pintscher 
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Tom Morris  wrote:
> Congratulations!

Thanks!

> On an unrelated note, can we assume that all data added to
> wikidata.org is persistent now?

You can as soon as we remove the sitenotice (hopefully tomorrow but no
promises). But at this point it is very unlikely that we'll have to do
a reset. (I bet now that I say this I summoned the gods that will
bring up a really really bad bug...)


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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Tom Morris 
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:40 AM, emijrp  wrote:
> 2012/10/30 Lydia Pintscher 
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, emijrp  wrote:
>> > Ah, cool trick.
>> >
>> > So, we can take October 30, 2012 as the day Wikidata was launched? I
>> > would
>> > like to add a line here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikidata
>>
>> Yes that sounds good :)
>>
>
> Done. I'm not sure if we have to add R.I.P. 30 October 2012 to DBpedia and
> Freebase articles.

That's excellent that you've already surpassed them in quality and
quantity (not to mention classiness of contributors).

Congratulations!

On an unrelated note, can we assume that all data added to
wikidata.org is persistent now?

Tom

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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Luca Martinelli 
2012/10/30 Jeroen De Dauw :
> Hey,
>
>
>> Phase 2 isn't started yet.
>
> Work on phase 2 has definitely started already, it just is not deployed on
> wikidata.org yet.

I meant "deployed", sorry.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Jeroen De Dauw 
Hey,

> Phase 2 isn't started yet.

Work on phase 2 has definitely started already, it just is not deployed on
wikidata.org yet.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Luca Martinelli 
2012/10/30 Andy Mabbett :
> On 30 October 2012 11:40, emijrp  wrote:
>
>> Done. I'm not sure if we have to add R.I.P. 30 October 2012 to DBpedia and
>> Freebase articles.
>
> And Wikispecies?
>
>> Joke.
>
> Hmm.

Phase 2 isn't started yet. We'll R.I.P them when it will be deployed. :P

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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Luca Martinelli 
SUL enabled. Thanks guys, that's incredible. :D

*Anyway*, I said it would have been good to add a feature that once
was enabled: on the left column, there were the various languages the
items had a description in. Can it be re-enabled? (I know the bug is
open...) 0:)

Can't wait for deployment on hu.wp. :)

L.

2012/10/30 emijrp :
> Cool, nice work.
>
> SUL is not enabled?
>
>
> 2012/10/30 Lydia Pintscher 
>>
>> Heya folks :)
>>
>> The Wikidata team is excited to let you know that http://wikidata.org
>> is now online and running the repository code \o/ You can now create
>> items and add language links to the various Wikipedias to them. Thank
>> you to everyone who helped.
>> There are some caveats! We're still testing things and fixing minor
>> bugs. Please let us know about any problems you find and go easy on
>> the new wiki.
>>
>> We're now working on phase two (infoboxes) and at the same time are
>> working on getting the client ready for deployment on the Hungarian
>> Wikipedia. I unfortunately can't yet give you a date for when that'll
>> happen.)
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lydia
>>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On 30 October 2012 11:40, emijrp  wrote:

> Done. I'm not sure if we have to add R.I.P. 30 October 2012 to DBpedia and
> Freebase articles.

And Wikispecies?

> Joke.

Hmm.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread emijrp 
2012/10/30 Lydia Pintscher 

> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, emijrp  wrote:
> > Ah, cool trick.
> >
> > So, we can take October 30, 2012 as the day Wikidata was launched? I
> would
> > like to add a line here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikidata
>
> Yes that sounds good :)
>
>
Done. I'm not sure if we have to add R.I.P. 30 October 2012 to DBpedia and
Freebase articles.

Joke.


>
> Cheers
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>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Marco Fleckinger 



On 30.10.2012 11:40, Lydia Pintscher wrote:

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, emijrp  wrote:

Ah, cool trick.

So, we can take October 30, 2012 as the day Wikidata was launched? I would
like to add a line here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikidata


Yes that sounds good :)


As well as here of course:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikidata

There are still many things missing

Marco


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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Lydia Pintscher 
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, emijrp  wrote:
> Ah, cool trick.
>
> So, we can take October 30, 2012 as the day Wikidata was launched? I would
> like to add a line here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikidata

Yes that sounds good :)


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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread emijrp 
2012/10/30 Amir E. Aharoni 

> 2012/10/30 emijrp :
> > Cool, nice work.
> >
> > SUL is not enabled?
>
> It is, we just discussed it on IRC :)
>
> Log out, then log in again to some other existing project (like
> https://ca.wikisource.org ) and then to https://www.wikidata.org , and
> it should work.
>
>
Ah, cool trick.

So, we can take October 30, 2012 as the day Wikidata was launched? I would
like to add a line here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikidata


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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Jérémie Roquet 
2012/10/30 Amir E. Aharoni :
> 2012/10/30 emijrp :
>> Cool, nice work.
>>
>> SUL is not enabled?
>
> It is, we just discussed it on IRC :)
>
> Log out, then log in again to some other existing project (like
> https://ca.wikisource.org ) and then to https://www.wikidata.org , and
> it should work.

Check that you're using the same protocol, as if you're logged with
HTTPS and following a link using HTTP, HTTPSEverywhere will not help,
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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Amir E. Aharoni 
2012/10/30 emijrp :
> Cool, nice work.
>
> SUL is not enabled?

It is, we just discussed it on IRC :)

Log out, then log in again to some other existing project (like
https://ca.wikisource.org ) and then to https://www.wikidata.org , and
it should work.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Lydia Pintscher 
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:28 AM, emijrp  wrote:
> Cool, nice work.
>
> SUL is not enabled?

It is. You should be abel to log in with your global account.


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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Lydia Pintscher 
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Jérémie Roquet  wrote:
> That's great news, congratulations!
>
> Will we have an interwiki prefix for Wikidata so that we can
> communicate on other wikis? I see none on
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki
>
> Thanks and best regards,

Yes that'll happen but not yet.


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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread emijrp 
Cool, nice work.

SUL is not enabled?

2012/10/30 Lydia Pintscher 

> Heya folks :)
>
> The Wikidata team is excited to let you know that http://wikidata.org
> is now online and running the repository code \o/ You can now create
> items and add language links to the various Wikipedias to them. Thank
> you to everyone who helped.
> There are some caveats! We're still testing things and fixing minor
> bugs. Please let us know about any problems you find and go easy on
> the new wiki.
>
> We're now working on phase two (infoboxes) and at the same time are
> working on getting the client ready for deployment on the Hungarian
> Wikipedia. I unfortunately can't yet give you a date for when that'll
> happen.)
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
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Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Jérémie Roquet 
Hi Lydia, hi everyone,

2012/10/30 Lydia Pintscher :
> The Wikidata team is excited to let you know that http://wikidata.org
> is now online and running the repository code \o/ You can now create
> items and add language links to the various Wikipedias to them. Thank
> you to everyone who helped.
> There are some caveats! We're still testing things and fixing minor
> bugs. Please let us know about any problems you find and go easy on
> the new wiki.

That's great news, congratulations!

Will we have an interwiki prefix for Wikidata so that we can
communicate on other wikis? I see none on
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki

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[Wikidata-l] wikidata.org is live (with some caveats)

2012-10-30 Thread Lydia Pintscher 
Heya folks :)

The Wikidata team is excited to let you know that http://wikidata.org
is now online and running the repository code \o/ You can now create
items and add language links to the various Wikipedias to them. Thank
you to everyone who helped.
There are some caveats! We're still testing things and fixing minor
bugs. Please let us know about any problems you find and go easy on
the new wiki.

We're now working on phase two (infoboxes) and at the same time are
working on getting the client ready for deployment on the Hungarian
Wikipedia. I unfortunately can't yet give you a date for when that'll
happen.)


Cheers
Lydia

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