[Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API
Hey there. To those of you that are American, happy Thanksgiving! To those of you that are not American, happy "Why can't I reach any of the the Americans today, and what's with all this talk of stuffing? day!". So a while back when Denny gave a talk in Boston about Wikidata, he mentioned that he didn't want bots running until after the new API hit and we had a chance to make sure that nothing was broken. I reposted that on the project chat and we all agreed to stop the bots. That was on November 13. Today I wake up to find that there is a bot running, and another to-be-bot-op is asking if he can run his too. Does anyone know if the new API has hit? Denny had no idea when it would. If it has, and nothing is on fire, does anyone have any other objections to running bots again? On a final note, I would ask that the bots stop running at Q99900 and resume once we're at Q11, as Denny did make a point to me in private that day that I agree with, that it's great for the milestones in projects (and Q10 is a big one) to be reached by humans and not bots. Donno if that's possible to program in though. Gosh, I remember creating things with four digits after the Q. I'm feeling old. :D Sven ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API
2012/11/22 Sven Manguard > I reposted that on the project chat and we all agreed to stop the bots. > That was on November 13. > That "all" was not quite the fact. :-) http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Pause_item_creating_botsSorry to make you sad about that at this hour, but unfortunately I am not an American. :-) > > On a final note, I would ask that the bots stop running at Q99900 and > resume once we're at Q11, as Denny did make a point to me in private > that day that I agree with, that it's great for the milestones in projects > (and Q10 is a big one) to be reached by humans and not bots. Donno if > that's possible to program in though. Gosh, I remember creating things with > four digits after the Q. I'm feeling old. :D > Nice idea, maybe a well-targeted block for bots? :-))) It is up to the community: it is possible to ask them to stop at 99800 and block for a while at 99900 if they forget to stop. With a comment that won't be too ugly in their log. > > But all this is a hungry person's idea, I wouldn't say such wild things after having my supper. -- Bináris ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API
2012/11/22 Sven Manguard : [...] > Today I wake up to find that there is a bot running, and another > to-be-bot-op is asking if he can run his too. Does anyone know if the new > API has hit? Denny had no idea when it would. If it has, and nothing is on > fire, does anyone have any other objections to running bots again? [...] First of all, happy Thanksgiving! I do not have any objections to run a bot - actually, I'd like to run one, just to make some tests. Can anyone point me to any code available at the moment? -- Luca "Sannita" Martinelli http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Sannita ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Sven Manguard wrote: > Hey there. To those of you that are American, happy Thanksgiving! To those > of you that are not American, happy "Why can't I reach any of the the > Americans today, and what's with all this talk of stuffing? day!". > > So a while back when Denny gave a talk in Boston about Wikidata, he > mentioned that he didn't want bots running until after the new API hit and > we had a chance to make sure that nothing was broken. I reposted that on the > project chat and we all agreed to stop the bots. That was on November 13. > > Today I wake up to find that there is a bot running, and another > to-be-bot-op is asking if he can run his too. Does anyone know if the new > API has hit? Denny had no idea when it would. If it has, and nothing is on > fire, does anyone have any other objections to running bots again? No it has not. Technically you can run bots. Just don't got too crazy with them :) > On a final note, I would ask that the bots stop running at Q99900 and resume > once we're at Q11, as Denny did make a point to me in private that day > that I agree with, that it's great for the milestones in projects (and > Q10 is a big one) to be reached by humans and not bots. Donno if that's > possible to program in though. Gosh, I remember creating things with four > digits after the Q. I'm feeling old. :D Heh I think that's something you need to figure out with the people running the bots. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API
I'm getting contradictory messages from Wikidata staff then. I mean we already knew that we *could*, the issue is whether or not we *should*. Sven On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Sven Manguard > wrote: > > Hey there. To those of you that are American, happy Thanksgiving! To > those > > of you that are not American, happy "Why can't I reach any of the the > > Americans today, and what's with all this talk of stuffing? day!". > > > > So a while back when Denny gave a talk in Boston about Wikidata, he > > mentioned that he didn't want bots running until after the new API hit > and > > we had a chance to make sure that nothing was broken. I reposted that on > the > > project chat and we all agreed to stop the bots. That was on November 13. > > > > Today I wake up to find that there is a bot running, and another > > to-be-bot-op is asking if he can run his too. Does anyone know if the new > > API has hit? Denny had no idea when it would. If it has, and nothing is > on > > fire, does anyone have any other objections to running bots again? > > No it has not. Technically you can run bots. Just don't got too crazy > with them :) > > > On a final note, I would ask that the bots stop running at Q99900 and > resume > > once we're at Q11, as Denny did make a point to me in private that > day > > that I agree with, that it's great for the milestones in projects (and > > Q10 is a big one) to be reached by humans and not bots. Donno if > that's > > possible to program in though. Gosh, I remember creating things with four > > digits after the Q. I'm feeling old. :D > > Heh I think that's something you need to figure out with the people > running the bots. > > > Cheers > Lydia > > -- > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > Community Communications for Wikidata > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > Obentrautstr. 72 > 10963 Berlin > www.wikimedia.de > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > ___ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Sven Manguard wrote: > I'm getting contradictory messages from Wikidata staff then. I mean we > already knew that we could, the issue is whether or not we should. There is no technical reason at the moment to not run bots. Beyond that it's not the staff's call to make. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Sven Manguard > wrote: > > I'm getting contradictory messages from Wikidata staff then. I mean we > > already knew that we could, the issue is whether or not we should. > > There is no technical reason at the moment to not run bots. Beyond > that it's not the staff's call to make. > > I want to run my bot for test but gave me error 10061 (actively refusing server) ! > > Cheers > Lydia > > -- > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > Community Communications for Wikidata > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > Obentrautstr. 72 > 10963 Berlin > www.wikimedia.de > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > ___ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > -- Amir ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
